Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sun, 10 Nov 2002 15:46:12 +1100 "Rob Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > I need to know if there are any decent, free, IMAP clients out there > > for Windows. I'm currently using Outlook Express and > > tunneling my > > Mozilla, maybe? It is a pig though, so if you're strapped for RAM you > might need to look elsewhere. I just beat woody into submission on my laptop and loaded Sylpheed-claws. Need to get some cleaner fonts though -- yuck! > > I was running Squirrelmail on the home system but since I run SID > > and a recent upgrade seems to have broken Apache for me (it just > > never starts -- no errors in ANY of the logs -- '/etc/init.d/apache > > start' -- and the process never appears) I can't use it right now. > > It's probably the buggy bash release. Upgrade to the latest version > in unstable (2.05b-, IIRC) and you should have apache back. I normally just wait a week or two and then do a dist-upgrade when something breaks. I only freak out if net connectivity b reaks completely. Otherwise I figure outways around the problem (like this). Thanks, G -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sun, Nov 10, 2002 at 03:46:12PM +1100, Rob Weir wrote: > It's probably the buggy bash release. Upgrade to the latest version in > unstable (2.05b-, IIRC) and you should have apache back. Er, that should be 2.05b-5. -rob msg12141/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > I need to know if there are any decent, free, IMAP clients out there for > Windows. I'm currently using Outlook Express and tunneling my > IMAP connection through ssh (port 143 is blocked on the work firewall). Mozilla, maybe? It is a pig though, so if you're strapped for RAM you might need to look elsewhere. > I was running Squirrelmail on the home system but since I run SID and a > recent upgrade seems to have broken Apache for me (it just never > starts -- no errors in ANY of the logs -- '/etc/init.d/apache start' -- > and the process never appears) I can't use it right now. It's probably the buggy bash release. Upgrade to the latest version in unstable (2.05b-, IIRC) and you should have apache back. -rob msg12125/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
- Original Message - From: "Chris Kenrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 17:33 Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:24:16AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > > > > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > > > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > > > depending on which folder I'm in. > > > > I'm not following why these are reasons not to use Mutt. Mutt is more > > than capable of handling the situation you describe. In fact, Mutt is > > probably the most configurable MUA that you'll find (short of possibly > > emacs). > > I'd second that. mutt under cygwin is probably your best bet. On a > Unix box, you can just add lines like I have CygWin installed here. It's so slow on this box it's painful. If I were to choose to use Mutt I would just ssh to my home box with Putty and use it that way. This is primarily for "weekend" use. I work a straight 48 hour shift from Friday evening to Sunday evening. I've gotten really used to the likes of Sylpheed/Evolution/et. al. because my family members like to send lots of photo attachments and links to web pages etc. It's just easier to be working in a "(x)windows aware/graphical" client. With the lists I'm on a client that threads properly is also a must. The firewall here blocks port 143 so what I'm currently doing is using Putty to open an ssh session with my home box and tunnel port 143 from there to port 143 here. Then I set an IMAP client (currently Outlook Express) to look at localhost:143. I'm currently having some sort of problem with OE sending an invalid request through the port occasionally that causes sshd to close the connection from my home system. I just fire up Putty again and all is well until the next time it happens. I could use CygWin ssh to do the same thing but I'll probably remove it. I installed it to try simply opening a remote X session over an ssh tunnel but it is unbearably slow on this machine (which has a crappy built in video card and only 128M of RAM which is being sucked up by WinXP-Pro -- also only a 10G HD which is over half used at this point by CygWin and the apps I have to have installed for work). I have Opera installed here -- it's mail client doesn't seem to support IMAP, just POP3. I pulled the win32 version of both Sylpheed and Sylpheed-claws. Both fail to operate here. I read through all the documentation and made sure I had the latest DLL files as suggested but they both still fail when I attempt to actually open a message for reading. They load fine (but VERY slowly) up to that point and I can move around between IMAP folders and see how many new messages are waiting in each folder etc. But as soon as I attempt to actually open a message for reading they lock up tight. I'd rather not install something like Mozilla just for email -- and does it thread properly and allow multiple From addresses for a single IMAP account? Bah! The limitations imposed by Windows and a slow machine are just ticking me off (as usual). I'll just get Woody cleaned up and finalized on my old P-166 HP Laptop and install Sylpheed there for remote use via ssh tunnel. Thanks all for the various suggestions. I have to go back through and manually word-wrap this now and re-start Putty before I send it. G -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
- Original Message - From: "Chris Kenrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 17:33 Subject: Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:24:16AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > > > > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > > > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > > > depending on which folder I'm in. > > > > I'm not following why these are reasons not to use Mutt. Mutt is more > > than capable of handling the situation you describe. In fact, Mutt is > > probably the most configurable MUA that you'll find (short of possibly > > emacs). > > I'd second that. mutt under cygwin is probably your best bet. On a > Unix box, you can just add lines like I have CygWin installed here. It's so slow on this box it's painful. If I were to choose to use Mutt I would just ssh to my home box with Putty and use it that way. This is primarily for "weekend" use. I work a straight 48 hour shift from Friday evening to Sunday evening. I've gotten really used to the likes of Sylpheed/Evolution/et. al. because my family members like to send lots of photo attachments and links to web pages etc. It's just easier to be working in a "(x)windows aware/graphical" client. With the lists I'm on a client that threads properly is also a must. The firewall here blocks port 143 so what I'm currently doing is using Putty to open an ssh session with my home box and tunnel port 143 from there to port 143 here. Then I set an IMAP client (currently Outlook Express) to look at localhost:143. I'm currently having some sort of problem with OE sending an invalid request through the port occasionally that causes sshd to close the connection from my home system. I just fire up Putty again and all is well until the next time it happens. I could use CygWin ssh to do the same thing but I'll probably remove it. I installed it to try simply opening a remote X session over an ssh tunnel but it is unbearably slow on this machine (which has a crappy built in video card and only 128M of RAM which is being sucked up by WinXP-Pro -- also only a 10G HD which is over half used at this point by CygWin and the apps I have to have installed for work). I have Opera installed here -- it's mail client doesn't seem to support IMAP, just POP3. I pulled the win32 version of both Sylpheed and Sylpheed-claws. Both fail to operate here. I read through all the documentation and made sure I had the latest DLL files as suggested but they both still fail when I attempt to actually open a message for reading. They load fine (but VERY slowly) up to that point and I can move around between IMAP folders and see how many new messages are waiting in each folder etc. But as soon as I attempt to actually open a message for reading they lock up tight. I'd rather not install something like Mozilla just for email -- and does it thread properly and allow multiple From addresses for a single IMAP account? Bah! The limitations imposed by Windows and a slow machine are just ticking me off (as usual). I'll just get Woody cleaned up and finalized on my old P-166 HP Laptop and install Sylpheed there for remote use via ssh tunnel. Thanks all for the various suggestions. I have to go back through and manually word-wrap this now and re-start Putty before I send it. G -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:24:16AM -0600, Jamin W. Collins wrote: > On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > > > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > > depending on which folder I'm in. > > I'm not following why these are reasons not to use Mutt. Mutt is more > than capable of handling the situation you describe. In fact, Mutt is > probably the most configurable MUA that you'll find (short of possibly > emacs). I'd second that. mutt under cygwin is probably your best bet. On a Unix box, you can just add lines like text/html ; w3m -T text/html ; copiousoutput to your ~/.mailcap file. As for "different From address depending on what folder", folder hooks are your best bet. Here's the one I use for this list. folder-hook debian-user 'my_hdr From: Chris Kenrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>' (above should be all on one line in the file, but wrapped for mail purposes) Sorry to sound like a mutt fanboy, but it really is a nice MUA. - Chris __ Do you Yahoo!? U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
- Original Message - From: "Gerald Livingston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 12:07 PM Subject: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache > I don't know if any of you are stuck in this situation so I'll just ask. > > I have IMAP set up at home -- but when I'm at work I'm currently stuck > using a win-box due to certain required applications. It's not a real > healthy winbox as far as RAM and HD space goes or I'd look at setting up > VMWare to have Debian alongside Win. Even the Win apps run slow on this > machine. > > I need to know if there are any decent, free, IMAP clients out there for > Windows. I'm currently using Outlook Express and tunneling my > IMAP connection through ssh (port 143 is blocked on the work firewall). > mozilla ,netscape , eudora ,opera > I was running Squirrelmail on the home system but since I run SID and a > recent upgrade seems to have broken Apache for me (it just never > starts -- no errors in ANY of the logs -- '/etc/init.d/apache start' -- > and the process never appears) I can't use it right now. > > Message threading is non-existent in OE and it treats gpg signed > messages as two separate attachments so I have to open the actual text > of the message as an attachment to see it. > > So, I'm looking for a decent IMAP client to use on this Winbox until I > get my laptop setup and install Sylpheed or something there. I'd rather > not use mutt because family members do send me funky formatted mail > sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, depending on which > folder I'm in. > > Thanks, > > G > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:07:19AM -0600, Gerald Livingston wrote: > I have IMAP set up at home -- but when I'm at work I'm currently stuck > using a win-box due to certain required applications. It's not a real > healthy winbox as far as RAM and HD space goes or I'd look at setting up > VMWare to have Debian alongside Win. Even the Win apps run slow on this > machine. Have you looked at cygwin? > I need to know if there are any decent, free, IMAP clients out there for > Windows. Sylpheed has a windows port. Might also look at Mozilla. > I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky > formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, > depending on which folder I'm in. I'm not following why these are reasons not to use Mutt. Mutt is more than capable of handling the situation you describe. In fact, Mutt is probably the most configurable MUA that you'll find (short of possibly emacs). -- Jamin W. Collins -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Semi-OT] IMAP clients for other OS Plus my broken SID Apache
I don't know if any of you are stuck in this situation so I'll just ask. I have IMAP set up at home -- but when I'm at work I'm currently stuck using a win-box due to certain required applications. It's not a real healthy winbox as far as RAM and HD space goes or I'd look at setting up VMWare to have Debian alongside Win. Even the Win apps run slow on this machine. I need to know if there are any decent, free, IMAP clients out there for Windows. I'm currently using Outlook Express and tunneling my IMAP connection through ssh (port 143 is blocked on the work firewall). I was running Squirrelmail on the home system but since I run SID and a recent upgrade seems to have broken Apache for me (it just never starts -- no errors in ANY of the logs -- '/etc/init.d/apache start' -- and the process never appears) I can't use it right now. Message threading is non-existent in OE and it treats gpg signed messages as two separate attachments so I have to open the actual text of the message as an attachment to see it. So, I'm looking for a decent IMAP client to use on this Winbox until I get my laptop setup and install Sylpheed or something there. I'd rather not use mutt because family members do send me funky formatted mail sometimes and I also use multiple "From: " addresses, depending on which folder I'm in. Thanks, G -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
