Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-25 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1147975636 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 Would anybody know why kde is not a choice in installation
 menu?

Yes: I think that it is because the d-i/tasksel people felt
that users divide best into two camps[1]:

1) those who do not know the distinction between gnome and
   kde, and just want a desktop environment

2) those that do know the distinction, and want a tailored
   desktop environment (e.g. just kde, or just gnome, or
   something else entirely)

Those in the second camp are thought to be fully capable of
using aptitude or apt-get or something else to get the
desired mix of stuff that they want, while those in the
first camp could potentially be confused by a multitude of
different desktop options.



[1] this is my interpretation, however. I'm not putting
words in their mouths :)

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-19 Thread Joey Hess
Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 1. Is there a way i can install kde as a default windowing system from a
 netinst cd? 
 I am using testing, and currently i would install default system(gnome)
 then uninstall gnome and install kde. This means i have to install gnome
 in order to install kde. 

boot the installer with install tasksel/first=kde-desktop

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-18 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1147906776 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 2. I would like to skip this process and from installation
 menu when selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde
 as a default windowing system. Who should i contact to
 make this change happen?

The desktop task offered to you in the debian-installer
process installs both GNOME and KDE, but GNOME is chosen as
the default environment.

If you do not select the desktop task, but instead go for
manual package selection, you can install the kde package
independently.

Note that there might be other components pulled in by the
desktop task that are not depended on by the kde package
(e.g. xserver-xfree86).

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-18 Thread Lukasz Szybalski

On 5/18/06, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

At 1147906776 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 2. I would like to skip this process and from installation
 menu when selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde
 as a default windowing system. Who should i contact to
 make this change happen?

The desktop task offered to you in the debian-installer
process installs both GNOME and KDE, but GNOME is chosen as
the default environment.

If you do not select the desktop task, but instead go for
manual package selection, you can install the kde package
independently.

Note that there might be other components pulled in by the
desktop task that are not depended on by the kde package
(e.g. xserver-xfree86).



I deselected the desktop. Installed the rest. Then apt-get install
kde. When all was done. startx gave an error.
Will manual selection of packages at install time produce same results
as apt-get install kde?

If so that will give me an error therefore it might or might not be a
use to me. Are there any other options?

lukasz

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-18 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:56:53 -0500
Lukasz Szybalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 5/18/06, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  At 1147906776 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
   2. I would like to skip this process and from installation
   menu when selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde
   as a default windowing system. Who should i contact to
   make this change happen?
 
  The desktop task offered to you in the debian-installer
  process installs both GNOME and KDE, but GNOME is chosen as
  the default environment.
 
  If you do not select the desktop task, but instead go for
  manual package selection, you can install the kde package
  independently.
 
  Note that there might be other components pulled in by the
  desktop task that are not depended on by the kde package
  (e.g. xserver-xfree86).
 
 
 I deselected the desktop. Installed the rest. Then apt-get install
 kde. When all was done. startx gave an error.
 Will manual selection of packages at install time produce same results
 as apt-get install kde?
 
  If so that will give me an error therefore it might or might not be a
 use to me. Are there any other options?
 
 lukasz

Do you have x-window-system-core installed?

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, May 18, 2006 at 09:56:53AM -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 On 5/18/06, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 1147906776 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
  2. I would like to skip this process and from installation
  menu when selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde
  as a default windowing system. Who should i contact to
  make this change happen?
 
 The desktop task offered to you in the debian-installer
 process installs both GNOME and KDE, but GNOME is chosen as
 the default environment.
 
 If you do not select the desktop task, but instead go for
 manual package selection, you can install the kde package
 independently.
 
 Note that there might be other components pulled in by the
 desktop task that are not depended on by the kde package
 (e.g. xserver-xfree86).
 
 
 I deselected the desktop. Installed the rest. Then apt-get install
 kde. When all was done. startx gave an error.
 Will manual selection of packages at install time produce same results
 as apt-get install kde?
 
 If so that will give me an error therefore it might or might not be a
 use to me. Are there any other options?

It would really help if you could tell us that the error is...

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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-18 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
On Thu, 2006-05-18 at 08:26 -0700, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
 On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:56:53 -0500
 Lukasz Szybalski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On 5/18/06, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   At 1147906776 past the epoch, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
2. I would like to skip this process and from installation
menu when selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde
as a default windowing system. Who should i contact to
make this change happen?
  
   The desktop task offered to you in the debian-installer
   process installs both GNOME and KDE, but GNOME is chosen as
   the default environment.
  
   If you do not select the desktop task, but instead go for
   manual package selection, you can install the kde package
   independently.
  
   Note that there might be other components pulled in by the
   desktop task that are not depended on by the kde package
   (e.g. xserver-xfree86).
  
  
  I deselected the desktop. Installed the rest. Then apt-get install
  kde. When all was done. startx gave an error.
  Will manual selection of packages at install time produce same results
  as apt-get install kde?
  
   If so that will give me an error therefore it might or might not be a
  use to me. Are there any other options?
  
  lukasz
 
 Do you have x-window-system-core installed?
yes that was it.

Would anybody know why kde is not a choice in installation menu?
 


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[desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-17 Thread Lukasz Szybalski
Hello,
1. Is there a way i can install kde as a default windowing system from a
netinst cd? 
I am using testing, and currently i would install default system(gnome)
then uninstall gnome and install kde. This means i have to install gnome
in order to install kde. 

2. I would like to skip this process and from installation menu when
selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde as a default windowing
system. Who should i contact to make this change happen?


Thank you
Lukasz  


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Re: [desktop][netinst]How can i choose a kde as a default?

2006-05-17 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:59:36PM -0500, Lukasz Szybalski wrote:
 Hello,
 1. Is there a way i can install kde as a default windowing system from a
 netinst cd? 
 I am using testing, and currently i would install default system(gnome)
 then uninstall gnome and install kde. This means i have to install gnome
 in order to install kde. 
 
 2. I would like to skip this process and from installation menu when
 selecting [desktop] I would like to choose a kde as a default windowing
 system. Who should i contact to make this change happen?

Maybe the easiest way to do it is to not select 'desktop', log in at the
console, fire up your favorite text-mode package manager, and install
kde + addons you want.  I doubt you can convince the d-i team one way or
the other--it used to give you a choice, I'm sure there's a reason it
doesn't now.

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