Re: [users] Re: e-mail, the next level

2001-06-22 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach nico de haer (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:10:54AM +0200):
 Up until writing this message i've recieved two replies to my erlier posting
 e-mail. the next level. Erik and Martin think in the same line as i do.
 Carl also contributed some points of interrest. Getting mail is no problem
 using a tool like Fetchmail. Even multiple accounts belonging to one user.
 Just let your mail sit in some (or multiple) internet mailbox(es) until you
 decide to get it. Using the IP-Up/Down scripts this can be done in a
 comfortable manner.

don't forget my ETRN method, which i like the best as it's the most
secure (no passwords), and it works beautifully - and you can't get
faster delivery if you decide not to read your mail on the server.

 For the actual reading part, i suppose that the POP3 server i suggested can
 be easely replaced by IMAP or any other you preffer. At this point, it's
 only used to read mail stored on your own server at your workstation.

... SSL tunneled, of course!

here, each user has two email addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and
[EMAIL PROTECTED] the default is @madduck.net, but when sending
internal emails, that changes to @home.madduck.net (hooks - of course
windoze can't do that.) the important thing to realize is that if an
internal message is sent with @madduck.net, it still gets there (after
a delay), and so does the reply. if an external message is sent with
return addy @home.madduck.net, it is definitely delivered to the
external recipient, and if the recipient uses something other than
micro$oft to relay messages, it will even make it back into the house,
since home.madduck.net is a CNAME to a dynamically changing IP
address, as i explained previously.

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
void write_thesis(char *subject, char *title} {
  // do something
}



Re: [users] Re: e-mail, the next level

2001-06-22 Thread MaD dUCK
also sprach [EMAIL PROTECTED] (on Fri, 22 Jun 2001 09:40:36AM +0800):
 1. What if multiple users on my network have set up multiple POP3 accounts in
 the past (before the server was up) and wish to go this way, leaving their 
 mail
 OFF their POP3 accounts, but ON the home server? Can this still be doable? 
 Will
 they be able to send mail which has their POP3 email in the From: ?

of course. the From header is only important while the message is
being delivered. in my scenarios, fetchmail keeps the From ASCII
header, but that has no control over the message delivery anyway,
since the From part is exchanged separately during the SMTP
communication.

and if you configured ETRN, it works just as well. in fact, i have a
couple of users doing it that way (me being one).

 2. Would it be possible to implement some kind of IMAP account(s) on the 
 server,
 so the users just go through an IMAP capable account on their client stations,
 without having to download the mails from the home server to the client hard
 disk? I envision that a daemon would be pulling POP3 mails from the various
 accounts and putting into the respective IMAP accounts.

yes, exactly what erik said.

once the mail is on the home server, you can do whatever you want with
it; forward it, POP3 it, IMAP it, print it, fax it, SMS it, and so
on...

martin;  (greetings from the heart of the sun.)
  \ echo mailto: !#^.*|tr * mailto:; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-- 
micros~1: for when quality, reliability, and security
  just aren't that important!