Re: 10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-14 Thread Carey Evans
"Walter L. Preuninger II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

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> Would running the cable thru some metal conduit protect me? Are there
> devices similar to surge suppresors for ethernet cables?

I was reading a section in an IBM manual about the requirements for
running twinax (sort of like thick coax) cabling outside a building.
Each end of the cable must be run through a box to protect the
equipment, and (paraphrased) the box "must be no closer than [some
number of] feet from any flammable objects".

I would really recommend trying to run it inside.  A hole drilled at
the bottom of a wall is quite unobtrusive in a carpeted room.

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Re: 10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-14 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 12, 1997 at 08:59:32AM -0500, Walter L. Preuninger II wrote:
> I would like to setup my home-net using 10bt cables between my linux and
> windoze boxen, but the only way I have to run the cables is to run it out
> a window, under the house, and back in a window. Is there any method of
> protecting the cables & cards from lightning damage? Several pc's and a 16
> port concentrator died recently due to a very close lightning strike.
> 
> Would running the cable thru some metal conduit protect me? Are there
> devices similar to surge suppresors for ethernet cables?

Ouch. Sounds like Ethernet just isn't intended for the environment
you're intending. You really can't drill a couple of holes in the floor
or the walls?

The metal conduit might help, but it may also attract the lightning ..


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Re: 10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-14 Thread jghasler
Walter L. Preuninger II writes:
> Is there any method of protecting the cables & cards from lightning
> damage? Several pc's and a 16 port concentrator died recently due to a
> very close lightning strike.

Unplug everything and disconnect all long cables during thunderstorms.

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Re: 10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-12 Thread Bruce Perens
From: "Walter L. Preuninger II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I would like to setup my home-net using 10bt cables between my linux and
> windoze boxen, but the only way I have to run the cables is to run it out
> a window, under the house, and back in a window. Is there any method of
> protecting the cables & cards from lightning damage? Several pc's and a 16
> port concentrator died recently due to a very close lightning strike.

There is a good deal you can do against lightning damage, but nothing
to protect from a really near strike unless you have a good engineer
and a whole lot of money. Check that all of your equipment is plugged
into grounded outlets and that the ground terminal of the outlet is
actually connected. Many of the surge suppressors on the market border
upon being "snake oil" (open some up and look inside). They might help,
but don't count on them. Instead of UTP wire, get the shielded stuff,
and ground the shield on _ONLY_ONE_END_. Leave the other end "floating"
to prevent ground loops. If you want to be expensive, use optical fiber
for your net, which will not get induced voltages due to lightning. Use
ferrite beads at the ends of all long wires (including the phone wire)
to reduce the possibility of induced common-mode current due to a
nearby strike.  I got some cheap ferrite donuts at the ham radio flea
market that I use for RF suppression, but they work for electromagnetic
impulse as well. I put as many turns of the wire through them as will
fit. Look for unintentional paths to long wires - such as from the
sound card to the hi-fi to the cable-TV wire. Maybe you don't need
that, or if you want to keep it, get an isolation transformer for the
cable-TV wire.

Even after all of this, you might get zapped again.

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Re: 10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-12 Thread Lee Bradshaw
APC makes 10BT surge suppressors (Part no. P10BT.)  I don't know how
good they are, but I've been happy with their UPSes.
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10BT cables and lightning

1997-06-12 Thread Walter L. Preuninger II
I would like to setup my home-net using 10bt cables between my linux and
windoze boxen, but the only way I have to run the cables is to run it out
a window, under the house, and back in a window. Is there any method of
protecting the cables & cards from lightning damage? Several pc's and a 16
port concentrator died recently due to a very close lightning strike.

Would running the cable thru some metal conduit protect me? Are there
devices similar to surge suppresors for ethernet cables?

Thanks,

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