Re: Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
>> What made you suspect the video card? >> The 2.6.28 kernel that you are running is vanilla or from unstable? Ooops that was my fat fingers messing up. I meant the 2.6._18_ kernel from etch. All packages I've tried are from stable. This box is very basic. Nothing it it but the video card and a 3Com NIC. Since the memory apperared ok, I figured I'd try the adapters for fun. It sort of goes back to what an instructor taught us the first day of field service class about 30 years ago "Never overlook the obvious, nor rule out the unlikely." I'm presently compiling a custom 2.6.26 kernel from the stable Debian source. I suspect it has something to do with the frame buffer support. But I don't know yet if it's an issue with the kernel, or if I may have a flakey video card on my hands. Details as they become available, film at 11. D. C. Busboom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
2009/2/23 Dennis Busboom : > I think I've discovered what's causing the hang, but haven't had time to > dig into it. It seems that the video card (huh?!) is the problem. > > lspci -v shows this with the 2.6.28 kernel booted up > > 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT] > (rev 04) ( >Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device 0020 >Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9 >Memory at f500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] >Memory at fc00 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M] >Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 >Capabilities: [44] AGP version 1.0 >Kernel driver in use: rivafb > > On a whim I dropped in a low end VESA PCI card and 2.6.26 boots right > up. Put the Nvidia Riva back in, and the hang returns. And people > wonder why I have ulcers. :) > > D. C. Busboom What made you suspect the video card? The 2.6.28 kernel that you are running is vanilla or from unstable? Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
I think I've discovered what's causing the hang, but haven't had time to dig into it. It seems that the video card (huh?!) is the problem. lspci -v shows this with the 2.6.28 kernel booted up 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV4 [RIVA TNT] (rev 04) ( Subsystem: VISIONTEK Device 0020 Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 9 Memory at f500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at fc00 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=16M] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 1 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 1.0 Kernel driver in use: rivafb On a whim I dropped in a low end VESA PCI card and 2.6.26 boots right up. Put the Nvidia Riva back in, and the hang returns. And people wonder why I have ulcers. :) D. C. Busboom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
2009/2/22 Dennis Busboom : >> Could you try running memtest86+ on it and see if its a memory issue. > > I fired up memtest before leaving last night. It ran 10 hours, 12 passes > with no errors. Only thing I can think of now is to grab some source and > and roll my own where I can cherry-pick and make some SWAG's (Silly Wild > A$$ed Guesses) > as to what it'll take to make 2.6.26 go. :) > > D. C. Busboom Before you go and do that, It might be worth mentioning something on the debian-kernel mailing list. The kernel developers may have some ideas why the 686 kernel fails for you. http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/ If they find a solution for you please do report back here with your findings. I'd be interested in knowing what's going on. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
> Could you try running memtest86+ on it and see if its a memory issue. I fired up memtest before leaving last night. It ran 10 hours, 12 passes with no errors. Only thing I can think of now is to grab some source and and roll my own where I can cherry-pick and make some SWAG's (Silly Wild A$$ed Guesses) as to what it'll take to make 2.6.26 go. :) D. C. Busboom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
2009/2/21 Dennis Busboom : > I tried linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-686 (for PentiumX machines). > Both behave the same way. I see the kernel and initrd load, then nothing. > The old 2.6.18 still boots right up. I also tried going into the grub > command-mode and doing a 'testload' on the kernels and initrd images. > They appear to load just fine, but trying to actually 'boot' them sends > the machine into never-never-land. Definitely something this old box > doesn't like about the new kernal. Yes, If it's not getting to a kernel panic from unable to rind a root device then i'm perplexed. You seem to be running the right kernel for your machine. Could you try running memtest86+ on it and see if its a memory issue. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
> Just to add, you could install one of the linux-image-686 or > linux-image-2.6-686 meta packages. > The first one depends on the most recent linux kernel, the second one > depends on the most recent 2.6 kernel. I tried linux-image-2.6-686 and linux-image-686 (for PentiumX machines). Both behave the same way. I see the kernel and initrd load, then nothing. The old 2.6.18 still boots right up. I also tried going into the grub command-mode and doing a 'testload' on the kernels and initrd images. They appear to load just fine, but trying to actually 'boot' them sends the machine into never-never-land. Definitely something this old box doesn't like about the new kernal. D. C. Busboom
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
Adrian Levi wrote: > 2009/2/21 Dennis Busboom : >> I just upgraded an older machine, PII 400mhz, 256mb RAM, from Etch to >> Lenny. The upgrade went smoothly, but the new Lenny kernel hangs upon >> booting. The old Etch kernel (2.6.18) is still present and boots up fine >> into the Lenny upgrade. When booting from the 2.6.26 kernel, it never makes >> it to the "Uncompressing Linux" stage, only appears to load the kernel and >> the initrd, then just stops. Ctrl-Alt-Delete will reboot it, so it doesn't >> lock hard, just goes into a coma. I've re-installed the kernel image and >> have tried a few suggested boot parameters, (noapic, etc,etc) but there is >> no change. Any idea of what might cause it to hang that early in the boot? > > Just to add, you could install one of the linux-image-686 or > linux-image-2.6-686 meta packages. > > The first one depends on the most recent linux kernel, the second one > depends on the most recent 2.6 kernel. > > Adrian > Just a thought, I hope there is no change in naming the various disk partitions (devices). -- Please reply to this list only. I read this list on its corresponding newsgroup on gmane.org. Replies sent to my email address are just filtered to a folder in my mailbox and get periodically deleted without ever having been read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
2009/2/21 Dennis Busboom : > I just upgraded an older machine, PII 400mhz, 256mb RAM, from Etch to > Lenny. The upgrade went smoothly, but the new Lenny kernel hangs upon > booting. The old Etch kernel (2.6.18) is still present and boots up fine > into the Lenny upgrade. When booting from the 2.6.26 kernel, it never makes > it to the "Uncompressing Linux" stage, only appears to load the kernel and > the initrd, then just stops. Ctrl-Alt-Delete will reboot it, so it doesn't > lock hard, just goes into a coma. I've re-installed the kernel image and > have tried a few suggested boot parameters, (noapic, etc,etc) but there is > no change. Any idea of what might cause it to hang that early in the boot? Just to add, you could install one of the linux-image-686 or linux-image-2.6-686 meta packages. The first one depends on the most recent linux kernel, the second one depends on the most recent 2.6 kernel. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
2009/2/21 Dennis Busboom : > I just upgraded an older machine, PII 400mhz, 256mb RAM, from Etch to > Lenny. The upgrade went smoothly, but the new Lenny kernel hangs upon > booting. The old Etch kernel (2.6.18) is still present and boots up fine > into the Lenny upgrade. When booting from the 2.6.26 kernel, it never makes > it to the "Uncompressing Linux" stage, only appears to load the kernel and > the initrd, then just stops. Ctrl-Alt-Delete will reboot it, so it doesn't > lock hard, just goes into a coma. I've re-installed the kernel image and > have tried a few suggested boot parameters, (noapic, etc,etc) but there is > no change. Any idea of what might cause it to hang that early in the boot? What processor architecture is the new kernel compiled for? Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny kernel (2.6.26) hangs
I just upgraded an older machine, PII 400mhz, 256mb RAM, from Etch to Lenny. The upgrade went smoothly, but the new Lenny kernel hangs upon booting. The old Etch kernel (2.6.18) is still present and boots up fine into the Lenny upgrade. When booting from the 2.6.26 kernel, it never makes it to the "Uncompressing Linux" stage, only appears to load the kernel and the initrd, then just stops. Ctrl-Alt-Delete will reboot it, so it doesn't lock hard, just goes into a coma. I've re-installed the kernel image and have tried a few suggested boot parameters, (noapic, etc,etc) but there is no change. Any idea of what might cause it to hang that early in the boot? Thanks, D. C. Busboom
