Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 02:26:41AM +0100, Andreas Leitner wrote:
 On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 20:33, Emil Pedersen wrote:
  Oh, and testing would probably do just fine.  For my normal work
  machine I use a testing enhanced potato.  apt-0.5.4 let you keep
  one default release but gives you the abbility to hand pick things
  from testing.  Very neat.  I also use it (apt-get
  source/dpkg-buildpackage)
[snip]
 I have heard that apt supports this now for a while, but never found
 out how to set it up and how to use it. Does anybody have any
 pointers?
In woody:

 $ man 5 apt_preferences
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Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-17 Thread Andreas Leitner
On Sat, 2001-11-17 at 10:45, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 In woody:
 
  $ man 5 apt_preferences

Ahhh, thanks!

Andreas




2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Antti Tolamo

Anywaa around it?

I'm trying to do a tarball as a backup
for my system but after 2 GB process
stops to an error. And yes, I do have
over 4 GB free space where I'm
trying to make tarball.


Antti

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Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Rupa Schomaker
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Which release, which kernel?

I can sucesfully make  2g tars using a 2.4 kernel on woody using
either a ext2 or XFS filesystem.

There are quite a few tools in woody that don't support  2g files but
most of the critical ones do and for those that don't it is fairly
straight forward to rebuild the .deb with large file support enabled.

Antti Tolamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anywaa around it?
 
 I'm trying to do a tarball as a backup
 for my system but after 2 GB process
 stops to an error. And yes, I do have
 over 4 GB free space where I'm
 trying to make tarball.
 
 
 Antti
 
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Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Guy Geens
 Antti == Antti Tolamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Antti Anywaa around it? I'm trying to do a tarball as a backup for my
Antti system but after 2 GB process stops to an error. And yes, I do
Antti have over 4 GB free space where I'm trying to make tarball.

XFS should be able to handle large files. You can download the patches
and utilities from SGI's website.

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Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Antti Tolamo

Rupa Schomaker wrote:


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Which release, which kernel?




I forgot to mention that. Potato 2.2.19r4



Antti 






Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Emil Pedersen
Rupa Schomaker wrote:
 
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 Which release, which kernel?
 
 I can sucesfully make  2g tars using a 2.4 kernel on woody using
 either a ext2 or XFS filesystem.
 
 There are quite a few tools in woody that don't support  2g files but
 most of the critical ones do and for those that don't it is fairly
 straight forward to rebuild the .deb with large file support enabled.
 
 Antti Tolamo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Anywaa around it?
 
  I'm trying to do a tarball as a backup
  for my system but after 2 GB process
  stops to an error. And yes, I do have
  over 4 GB free space where I'm
  trying to make tarball.
 

Hi Antti.

I just struggled my way to through to get LFS (large file support) in a
potato system installed about six months ago.  What I had to do was to
compile new kernel (2.4.9 + aacraid patch) since I upgraded from (a
perfectly stable) 2.2.19, you shouldn't have to do this if you're
already using 2.4.x.
  Installed this just to find out that I still could not create large
files, the struggle began.  In the end it turned out to be really
simple; You can not use 'libc6' from stable (potato), but have to go
with testing/unstable.  (I got the impression that one could also
recompile libc against the 2.4 headers, but I just downloaded 'libc6'
and 'libc6-dev' from testing.)
  They will likely conflict with some installed packages you may have (I
had to adjust locale, libstdc++ and a few -dev packages), but should
be solvable by installing/removing/reinstalling the troublesome packages
manually.  Just take it easy and don't make any drastic changes.

Once libc6 and depending packages were setup properly, I used dd to
create a file of 3.5G just to try.  Worked liked a charm.  Hopefully I
don't have to reboot for at least another 150-days period...

Good luck,
Emil



Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Rick Macdonald
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Emil Pedersen wrote:

 I just struggled my way to through to get LFS (large file support) in a
 potato system installed about six months ago.  What I had to do was to
 compile new kernel (2.4.9 + aacraid patch) since I upgraded from (a
 perfectly stable) 2.2.19, you shouldn't have to do this if you're
 already using 2.4.x.
   Installed this just to find out that I still could not create large
 files, the struggle began.  In the end it turned out to be really
 simple; You can not use 'libc6' from stable (potato), but have to go
 with testing/unstable.  (I got the impression that one could also
 recompile libc against the 2.4 headers, but I just downloaded 'libc6'
 and 'libc6-dev' from testing.)
   They will likely conflict with some installed packages you may have (I
 had to adjust locale, libstdc++ and a few -dev packages), but should
 be solvable by installing/removing/reinstalling the troublesome packages
 manually.  Just take it easy and don't make any drastic changes.
 
 Once libc6 and depending packages were setup properly, I used dd to
 create a file of 3.5G just to try.  Worked liked a charm.  Hopefully I
 don't have to reboot for at least another 150-days period...

Just to be sure that I understand, besides having the libc6 and other
packages from testing/unstable, one _must_ also be using a 2.4.x kernel.
Is that correct? Do you also have to turn on some large file option when
configuring the kernel or is it the default?

Any idea if you really need packages from unstable, or is testing (woody)
good enough?

...RickM...



Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Emil Pedersen
Rick Macdonald wrote:
 
 On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Emil Pedersen wrote:
 
  I just struggled my way to through to get LFS (large file support) in a
  potato system installed about six months ago.  What I had to do was to
  compile new kernel (2.4.9 + aacraid patch) since I upgraded from (a
  perfectly stable) 2.2.19, you shouldn't have to do this if you're
  already using 2.4.x.
Installed this just to find out that I still could not create large
  files, the struggle began.  In the end it turned out to be really
  simple; You can not use 'libc6' from stable (potato), but have to go
  with testing/unstable.  (I got the impression that one could also
  recompile libc against the 2.4 headers, but I just downloaded 'libc6'
  and 'libc6-dev' from testing.)
They will likely conflict with some installed packages you may have (I
  had to adjust locale, libstdc++ and a few -dev packages), but should
  be solvable by installing/removing/reinstalling the troublesome packages
  manually.  Just take it easy and don't make any drastic changes.
 
  Once libc6 and depending packages were setup properly, I used dd to
  create a file of 3.5G just to try.  Worked liked a charm.  Hopefully I
  don't have to reboot for at least another 150-days period...
 
 Just to be sure that I understand, besides having the libc6 and other
 packages from testing/unstable, one _must_ also be using a 2.4.x kernel.
 Is that correct? Do you also have to turn on some large file option when
 configuring the kernel or is it the default?

I _think_ you could find a patch against the 2.2.x series, but I'm not
sure.  It's just the impression I got surfing around to gather some
useful info before I started.   I just thought the simplest way would be
to upgrade to a 2.4 kernel.
  The 2.4 kernels (after 2.4.0test7 if I understood correctly) have this
support by default.  I actually looked more than once for some option to
tweak but couldn't find any.  It just worked while libc6 was in place.

 Any idea if you really need packages from unstable, or is testing (woody)
 good enough?

I used 'libc6_2.2.4-5_i386.deb' which I'm pretty sure came from testing
(I don't have unstable in my source.list).  Besides that I think it
depends on what packages are on your machine.  My was a quite striped
server, thus there was just a few complaints when installing libc6-dev. 
I don't surely remember whatever 'locale' complained about 'libc6' or
'libc6-dev' but besides that (if any) I didn't get any complaints
against libc6, only the -dev part.

// Emil



Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Emil Pedersen

[ ... ]


I missed some info...

Here's the source to some of my assumptions/statements:
http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html

Oh, and testing would probably do just fine.  For my normal work
machine I use a testing enhanced potato.  apt-0.5.4 let you keep one
default release but gives you the abbility to hand pick things from
testing.  Very neat.  I also use it (apt-get source/dpkg-buildpackage)
to get testing packages compiled to my system, that if installed the
standard way would have dragged in to much other new packages.  It
doesn't always work, but most of the times.  Well worth a try...

// Emil



Re: 2 GB limit with ext2

2001-11-16 Thread Andreas Leitner
On Fri, 2001-11-16 at 20:33, Emil Pedersen wrote:
 Oh, and testing would probably do just fine.  For my normal work
 machine I use a testing enhanced potato.  apt-0.5.4 let you keep one
 default release but gives you the abbility to hand pick things from
 testing.  Very neat.  I also use it (apt-get source/dpkg-buildpackage)
 to get testing packages compiled to my system, that if installed the
 standard way would have dragged in to much other new packages.  It
 doesn't always work, but most of the times.  Well worth a try...

I have heard that apt supports this now for a while, but never found out how to 
set it up and how to use it. Does anybody have any pointers?


tia,
Andreas