Re: 3d acceleration broken out of the box on h/w that has been supported correctly in the past.

2019-10-07 Thread Étienne Mollier
On 07/10/2019 11.08, DAVID HAND wrote:
> This is present in Buster and Stretch - can't remember precisely when it 
> broke.
> 
> Don't know which package maintainer is responsible, have searched a  lot and 
> found many similar sounding issues yet not been able to fix it myself, nor 
> find active similar bug. Possibly one filed with glx-alternative
> 
> The breakage is fairly innocuous - unless your DE tries to do too much - like 
> KDE Plasma..  However 360 degree videos will without fail be garbled. (I 
> vaguely remember this occurring sometime between Wheezy and Stretch but 
> didn't really pay it much attention at the time). Installation of the 
> proprietary 304xx nvidia driver (in Stretch as no longer included since 
> Buster) changes but does not fix the issue.
> 
> I get the impression it's something to do with the spaghetti of openGL 
> symbolic links, but I'm a little out of my depth.
> 
> Would love to get some help to rectify this one way or another.
> 

Good day David, (well, day with a lot of noise, but that is
relatively uncommon actually),

Last time I had some garbling with libgl links, it was due to a
reinstallation, or update, of "xorg-xserver", which erased an
NVidia specific version of the libgl.so with its own.  Could you
send the output of the following commands:

$ glxinfo | head
$ nvidida-smi
$ lspci | grep VGA

Well, assuming the problem does come from garbled OpenGL libs,
purging then reinstalling the NVidia driver might help, but I am
referring for myself to a situation where the .run file from
NVidia was in use (specific driver qualification in professional
context); not sure how things would work with Debian packaging.

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3d acceleration broken out of the box on h/w that has been supported correctly in the past.

2019-10-07 Thread DAVID HAND
This is present in Buster and Stretch - can't remember precisely when it broke.

Don't know which package maintainer is responsible, have searched a  lot and 
found many similar sounding issues yet not been able to fix it myself, nor find 
active similar bug. Possibly one filed with glx-alternative

The breakage is fairly innocuous - unless your DE tries to do too much - like 
KDE Plasma..  However 360 degree videos will without fail be garbled. (I 
vaguely remember this occurring sometime between Wheezy and Stretch but didn't 
really pay it much attention at the time). Installation of the proprietary 
304xx nvidia driver (in Stretch as no longer included since Buster) changes but 
does not fix the issue.

I get the impression it's something to do with the spaghetti of openGL symbolic 
links, but I'm a little out of my depth.

Would love to get some help to rectify this one way or another.


Re: AMD AGPUs, 3D acceleration, and linux-libre in Debian

2013-06-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I don't care whether or not they are supported in
> linux-firmware-nonfree; I want this to work using 100% free software.

I have linux-firmware-nonfree installed here on my desktop based on
a E350.  It's not even for 3D (which I never use), but it was needed
just to get console output, IIRC.

I haven't tried to uninstall it, to see if the situation improved since
when I got this computer, but at least, it doesn't sound too promising
for you.


Stefan


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Re: AMD AGPUs, 3D acceleration, and linux-libre in Debian

2013-06-10 Thread James Cloos
The newer Richland APUs also should work, topping out with the A10-6800k.

As for the GPU, I don't expect 3d will work w/o the binary firmware blobs.

Even 2d might not work.  And even if it does, there is still non-free video-
bios on the apu, AIUI.  (There certainly is on all discreet radeon cards.)

You might be able to do a fully-Free-Software C32 or G34 board, but the
on-board vga on those probably is not up to 3d.

You can use a discreet card with the asus mb.  Perhaps there is one w/o
propietary blobs?

Good luck.  I'd be curious to know how it works out.

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AMD AGPUs, 3D acceleration, and linux-libre in Debian

2013-06-08 Thread Harry Prevor
I'm looking to build a 100% free desktop computer / home server to the
BIOS level; details can be found at
<http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1f43bb/>.

I'm pretty much sure of all the other parts in my build, but to go for
coreboot compatibility, I'm (essentially) forced to use the Asus
F2A85-M mobo (as it's the only moderately recent mobo that's
both supported and available for purchase). The only CPUs compatible
with that motherboard are listed below:

CPU Speed   Cores   TDP
AMD A10-57003.4GHz  4   465W
AMD A10-5800K   3.8GHz  4   100W
AMD A4-5300 3.4GHz  2   65W
AMD A6-5400K3.6GHz  2   65W
AMD A8-5500 3.2GHz  4   65W
AMD A8-5600K3.6GHz  4   100W

It's pretty clear to me that the A10-5800K is the best of that bunch,
so that's probably what I'll be buying.

Anyways, each of these CPUs comes with an AGPU (AKA APU), which is sort
of what it sounds like: A CPU with a GPU. What I'm wondering is how
these AGPUs will be supported by free software.

What is the freedom status of these AGPUs? Can I get 3D acceleration
in Debian using both DFSG-free drivers *and* firmware using these GPUs?

I don't care whether or not they are supported in
linux-firmware-nonfree; I want this to work using 100% free software.

I've heard that "Trinity APUs are fully supported in Linux 3.4 and
later", but I'm not really sure to what extent they are supported and
whether or not they depend on nonfree components. I would have no
problem backporting the kernel to stable if that was required for this
to work.

Thanks a lot for any responses.

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Re: Squeeze boot takes 9 minutes; no sound and no 3D acceleration

2011-05-17 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 17 May 2011 15:53:33 +0300, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:

> Yesterday I updated Lenny to Squeeze. Lenny was working very well, but
> now I have a few problems:
> 
> 1) Booting takes 9 minutes to login screen. This seems to be because
> NIS, freshclam, MTA exim4 start before networking is up and thus take 1
> or 2 minutes to timeout. Also hald took a minute to start, I do not know
> why. I already added networking to nis Required-Start: line, but that
> does not seem to help.

(...)

For this you could start by disabling the parallel booting feature and 
check if you get any gain:

2.1.4. Dependency booting
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#dependency-boot

If you still experience a slow booting, review your logs to find out 
the culprit.

> 3) I have nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] display card. Now 3D
> acceleration no longer works, I managed to fix the wrong symlinks
> probably caused by manually installed NVidia drivers 3 years ago. Now I
> use Debian packages, but programs that try to use libGL do not work:
> symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv47gl

Closed drivers are always a headache.

As you are upgrading from an older versión you will have to deal with 
this manually and apply high doses of patience :-)

What I would do? First, decide what driver to use becasue squeeze 
integrates KMS and nouveau support out-of-the-box.

But if you prefer to keep the closed nvidia driveers you will also 
have to decide what set to install: the ones from Debian non-free 
repo or those provided by nvidia. In either case, I would first 
completely uninstall any nvidia driver, package or kernel module 
that was installed before and then boot with the VESA, FB or 
nouveau driver. After that, proceed with the installation of the 
selected VGA driver packages.
 
> I do not know what is wrong, but found others with similar problem and
> Debian bug report about this issue.

Maybe this? :-?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=596037

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Re: Squeeze boot takes 9 minutes; no sound and no 3D acceleration

2011-05-17 Thread Matt Richardson
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Dom  wrote:
> On 17/05/11 13:53, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:
>>
>> Yesterday I updated Lenny to Squeeze. Lenny was working very well, but
>> now I have a few problems:
>
>
>> 2) sound no longer works. I have Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev
>> 08), which seems to need firmware loaded. I tried installing ld10k1,
>> remains to check if that helped. During installation I got a popup
>> screen about missing firmwares, but that screen was not at all helpful
>> in figuring out where to get those firmwares.
>>
>> The popup contained this:
>> snd_emu10k1: emu/emu1010_notebook.fw, emu/emu0404.fw, emu/micro_dock.fw, │
>> │ emu/emu1010b.fw, emu/audio_dock.fw, emu/hana.fw │
>> │ r8169: rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw, rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw
>>
>> I do not understand the above at all.
>
> This page: http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1 should help you. Follow steps
> 1 to 5 under "Installation".
>
> I note that page refers to alsa-firmware-1.0.20, but according to the alsa
> page the latest is 1.0.24, so I suggest you use 1.0.24 where ever it refers
> to 1.0.20 (I've just been through this process for firmware for a different
> card, and it works fine).
>
> Sorry I can't help with your other issues :-(
>
> --
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>
>

Check out the wiki page [1] for nvidia drivers, a lot has changed with
the free driver moving from nv to nouveau.  I couldn't get 3d
acceleration to work with nouveau, but it works fine with the nvidia
packages from the Debian repos.  You may have to do some research to
make sure that you get a driver version that will work with your card.
 I haven't checked out the DKMS changes yet, still using a stupid
little script to run module-assistant to build the nvidia module when
I update the kernel.

I wish I had an answer for you on the start up dependencies.  When I
did a few Lenny to Squeeze updates, I had to run apt-get a few times
to clear up error messages related to dependency loops, but nothing
that caused time outs like you are experiencing.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers


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Re: Squeeze boot takes 9 minutes; no sound and no 3D acceleration

2011-05-17 Thread Dom

On 17/05/11 13:53, Tapio Lehtonen wrote:

Yesterday I updated Lenny to Squeeze. Lenny was working very well, but
now I have a few problems:




2) sound no longer works. I have Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev
08), which seems to need firmware loaded. I tried installing ld10k1,
remains to check if that helped. During installation I got a popup
screen about missing firmwares, but that screen was not at all helpful
in figuring out where to get those firmwares.

The popup contained this:
snd_emu10k1: emu/emu1010_notebook.fw, emu/emu0404.fw, emu/micro_dock.fw, │
│ emu/emu1010b.fw, emu/audio_dock.fw, emu/hana.fw │
│ r8169: rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw, rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw

I do not understand the above at all.


This page: http://wiki.debian.org/snd-emu10k1 should help you. Follow 
steps 1 to 5 under "Installation".


I note that page refers to alsa-firmware-1.0.20, but according to the 
alsa page the latest is 1.0.24, so I suggest you use 1.0.24 where ever 
it refers to 1.0.20 (I've just been through this process for firmware 
for a different card, and it works fine).


Sorry I can't help with your other issues :-(

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Squeeze boot takes 9 minutes; no sound and no 3D acceleration

2011-05-17 Thread Tapio Lehtonen
Yesterday I updated Lenny to Squeeze. Lenny was working very well, but 
now I have a few problems:


1) Booting takes 9 minutes to login screen. This seems to be because 
NIS, freshclam, MTA exim4 start before networking is up and thus take 1 
or 2 minutes to timeout. Also hald took a minute to start, I do not know 
why. I already added networking to nis Required-Start: line, but that 
does not seem to help.


2) sound no longer works. I have Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 
08), which seems to need firmware loaded. I tried installing ld10k1, 
remains to check if that helped. During installation I got a popup 
screen about missing firmwares, but that screen was not at all helpful 
in figuring out where to get those firmwares.


The popup contained this:
snd_emu10k1: emu/emu1010_notebook.fw, emu/emu0404.fw, emu/micro_dock.fw, │
│ emu/emu1010b.fw, emu/audio_dock.fw, emu/hana.fw │
│ r8169: rtl_nic/rtl8168d-2.fw, rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw

I do not understand the above at all.

3) I have nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] display card. Now 3D 
acceleration no longer works, I managed to fix the wrong symlinks 
probably caused by manually installed NVidia drivers 3 years ago. Now I 
use Debian packages, but programs that try to use libGL do not work:

symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libGL.so.1: undefined symbol: _nv47gl

I do not know what is wrong, but found others with similar problem and 
Debian bug report about this issue.



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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson

On 03/31/2011 10:08 AM, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:49:14PM +, Camaleón wrote:

And provided you seem to be using a recent -and customized?- kernel
(Linux yoda 2.6.37-2-amd64) and also an updated Xorg server (1.9.5)
upgrading any of those components does not make much sense, right?

yes the standard kernel coming with unstable


http://pastebin.com/1u6aK0aJ

What is the exact behaviour you are experiencing? Do you feel the desktop
is sluggish or a concrete application is not running smooth? Did you
enable desktop effects? BTW, what desktop are you using?

The more data you provide, the better for other people can tell you some
hints :-)

:D
sur enough, ok i am running enlightement .16 as desktopmanager, without
too much options enabled (no effects etc)  and for normal work, e.g.
launching and moving xterms, editing documents wth libreoffice etc
there's no lag, as soon as i start some heavy duty graphic apps there's
lag and often some out of synchro lines that appear.

doesn't happen BTW with glxgears, but tested also with a widely
available game: extreme tuxracer



So, tuxracer (heavy OpenGL usage) performs adequately?


and then there's proprietary software i need running under wine which
doesn't use opengl but the "'$%'«» M$ system and those won't
work.



That's a Wine problem...


tried also some heavy graphics games like regnum online, same problem,
they complain of lack of drivers



Error messages would be useful...


i suppose now it has something to do with some lacking in the
translation between windows graphics and opengl :(



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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 17:08:57 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:49:14PM +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> The more data you provide, the better for other people can tell you
>> some hints :-)

> :D
> sur enough, ok i am running enlightement .16 as desktopmanager, without
> too much options enabled (no effects etc)  and for normal work, e.g.
> launching and moving xterms, editing documents wth libreoffice etc
> there's no lag, as soon as i start some heavy duty graphic apps there's
> lag and often some out of synchro lines that appear.

For this issue (some kind of screen corruption) I can't tell as Sid seems 
to be using the latest intel driver (2.14.0) and the same for libdrm 
(2.4.23) and mesa (7.10).

> doesn't happen BTW with glxgears, but tested also with a widely
> available game: extreme tuxracer
> 
> and then there's proprietary software i need running under wine which
> doesn't use opengl but the "'$%'«» M$ system and those won't
> work.

You mean DirectX based games or applications? I dunno if these can work 
even using Wine, maybe you need some trick (for example, passing an 
additional argument to wine binary) to launch these apps :-?
 
> tried also some heavy graphics games like regnum online, same problem,
> they complain of lack of drivers
> 
> i suppose now it has something to do with some lacking in the
> translation between windows graphics and opengl :(

Yes, there must be something related to that. Look, as for Regnum, Intel 
cards are still marked as "experimental", so I would expect some problems 
when playing this game:

Supported video cards
http://www.regnumonline.com.ar/index.php?l=1&sec=20&subsec=41

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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Ron Johnson

On 03/31/2011 03:36 AM, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:28:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
You will need to find out why the intel driver fails to load and Xorg
fallbacks to vesa or fb mode, if that's what is really happening here.

hmmm indeed reading the log i don't think that's happening



Upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.conf" file to www.pastebin.com and put
back the link so someone can give you any clue :-)

http://pastebin.com/1u6aK0aJ



X seems to be properly loading intel_drv.


ah  and as it seems its my application that needs explicitely some
known driver glxgears and tuxracer do work (not extremely fast but
 acceptably)




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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Bruno Boettcher
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 01:49:14PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> And provided you seem to be using a recent -and customized?- kernel 
> (Linux yoda 2.6.37-2-amd64) and also an updated Xorg server (1.9.5) 
> upgrading any of those components does not make much sense, right?
yes the standard kernel coming with unstable

> > http://pastebin.com/1u6aK0aJ
> What is the exact behaviour you are experiencing? Do you feel the desktop 
> is sluggish or a concrete application is not running smooth? Did you 
> enable desktop effects? BTW, what desktop are you using?
> 
> The more data you provide, the better for other people can tell you some 
> hints :-)
:D 
sur enough, ok i am running enlightement .16 as desktopmanager, without
too much options enabled (no effects etc)  and for normal work, e.g.
launching and moving xterms, editing documents wth libreoffice etc
there's no lag, as soon as i start some heavy duty graphic apps there's
lag and often some out of synchro lines that appear.

doesn't happen BTW with glxgears, but tested also with a widely
available game: extreme tuxracer

and then there's proprietary software i need running under wine which
doesn't use opengl but the "'$%'«» M$ system and those won't
work.

tried also some heavy graphics games like regnum online, same problem,
they complain of lack of drivers

i suppose now it has something to do with some lacking in the
translation between windows graphics and opengl :(
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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 10:36:31 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:28:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote: You will
>> need to find out why the intel driver fails to load and Xorg fallbacks
>> to vesa or fb mode, if that's what is really happening here.

> hmmm indeed reading the log i don't think that's happening

Yep... at least to me there is no clear error showing in the log :-? 
(neither warnings nor problems for enabling 3D acceleration).

And provided you seem to be using a recent -and customized?- kernel 
(Linux yoda 2.6.37-2-amd64) and also an updated Xorg server (1.9.5) 
upgrading any of those components does not make much sense, right?

>> Upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.conf" file to www.pastebin.com and
>> put back the link so someone can give you any clue :-)
> http://pastebin.com/1u6aK0aJ
> 
> ah  and as it seems its my application that needs explicitely some
> known driver glxgears and tuxracer do work (not extremely fast but
> acceptably)

What is the exact behaviour you are experiencing? Do you feel the desktop 
is sluggish or a concrete application is not running smooth? Did you 
enable desktop effects? BTW, what desktop are you using?

The more data you provide, the better for other people can tell you some 
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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-31 Thread Bruno Boettcher
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 06:28:02PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:
> You will need to find out why the intel driver fails to load and Xorg 
> fallbacks to vesa or fb mode, if that's what is really happening here.
hmmm indeed reading the log i don't think that's happening


> Upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.conf" file to www.pastebin.com and put 
> back the link so someone can give you any clue :-)
http://pastebin.com/1u6aK0aJ

ah  and as it seems its my application that needs explicitely some
known driver glxgears and tuxracer do work (not extremely fast but
acceptably)

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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-30 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200
Bruno Boettcher  wrote:

> Hello
> 
> i just got a new machine, fitted with no graphics card, since the
> processor and the motherboard together should be able to give a "decent"
> graphics output...
> 
> till now i had no problems with intel integrated graphics, worked out of
> the box
> 
> but this time i have only basic services working (basic VGA mode) so no
> DRI, no 3D acceleration
> 
> how do i get this working?
> 
> processor is  Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz
> 
> thanks!
> 

Which version of Debian are you trying? I believe that processor you
have is of the Sandy Bridge familiy, which requires at least version
2.14 of the intel drivers to function, and that version is so far only
packaged in Debian Unstable.

see
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xserver-xorg-video-intel

and
http://intellinuxgraphics.org/

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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:28:02 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

(...)

>> how do i get this working?
> 
> You will need to find out why the intel driver fails to load and Xorg
> fallbacks to vesa or fb mode, if that's what is really happening here.
> 
> Upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.conf" file 
 ^^^

Err, that should read "/var/log/Xorg.0.log".

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Re: how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-30 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 19:05:13 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

> i just got a new machine, fitted with no graphics card, since the
> processor and the motherboard together should be able to give a "decent"
> graphics output...
> 
> till now i had no problems with intel integrated graphics, worked out of
> the box
> 
> but this time i have only basic services working (basic VGA mode) so no
> DRI, no 3D acceleration
> 
> how do i get this working?

You will need to find out why the intel driver fails to load and Xorg 
fallbacks to vesa or fb mode, if that's what is really happening here.

Upload your full "/var/log/Xorg.0.conf" file to www.pastebin.com and put 
back the link so someone can give you any clue :-)

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how to get 3D acceleration with an intel i7?

2011-03-30 Thread Bruno Boettcher
Hello

i just got a new machine, fitted with no graphics card, since the
processor and the motherboard together should be able to give a "decent"
graphics output...

till now i had no problems with intel integrated graphics, worked out of
the box

but this time i have only basic services working (basic VGA mode) so no
DRI, no 3D acceleration

how do i get this working?

processor is  Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz

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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-22 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:

> Try first with the kernel from stable. If it doesn't work you can
> attach the full Xorg.0.log (maybe gzipped if the difference is
> significant).

Well... it did work... So, no option for me (w/ new kernel)?


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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-16 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 15 nov 10, 20:33:27, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:
> 
> > Pure or do you have any packages from backports or so (especially 
> > kernel)? Please also post the complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> 
> That's what I have from backports, kernel included:
...
> linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64
...

Indeed.

> Do You want me to post Xorg log right here? - for it is huge, or I can
> attach it?

Try first with the kernel from stable. If it doesn't work you can attach 
the full Xorg.0.log (maybe gzipped if the difference is significant).

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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-15 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:

> Pure or do you have any packages from backports or so (especially 
> kernel)? Please also post the complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log

That's what I have from backports, kernel included:

dictionaries-common
firmware-linux-free
iceweasel
libcairo2
libdbus-glib-1-2
libetpan13
libgail-common
libgail18
libglib2.0-0
libgtk2.0-0
libmozjs2d
libnspr4-0d
libnss3-1d
libpixman-1-0
libsqlite3-0
linux-base
linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-amd64
openoffice.org-base-core
openoffice.org-calc
openoffice.org-common
openoffice.org-core
openoffice.org-style-galaxy
openoffice.org-writer
qemu-kvm
ttf-opensymbol
uno-libs3
ure
xulrunner-1.9.1

Do You want me to post Xorg log right here? - for it is huge, or I can
attach it?


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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 15 nov 10, 12:53:16, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:
> 
> > I don't see any errors here, please post the output of
> 
> Yea, there is no error, but for some reason You saw after xserver
> has turned it on, it turns it off. Is it because I have second monitor
> connected?
> 
> > glxinfo | grep rendering
> 
> Here it is:
> 
> direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting
> LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
> 
> > (glxinfo is in package mesa-utils). You might also want to get rid of 
> > the xorg.conf file, unless you are running Lenny (you did not
> > specify).
> 
> My fault. I use lenny.

Pure or do you have any packages from backports or so (especially 
kernel)? Please also post the complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log

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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:

> I don't see any errors here, please post the output of

Yea, there is no error, but for some reason You saw after xserver
has turned it on, it turns it off. Is it because I have second monitor
connected?

> glxinfo | grep rendering

Here it is:

direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting
LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)

> (glxinfo is in package mesa-utils). You might also want to get rid of 
> the xorg.conf file, unless you are running Lenny (you did not
> specify).

My fault. I use lenny.


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Re: 3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Du, 14 nov 10, 23:38:58, Sthu Deus wrote:
> Good day.
> 
> I'm fighting w/ 3D acceleration on my new installation and have such
> DRM related items in the X log file:

I don't see any errors here, please post the output of

glxinfo | grep rendering

(glxinfo is in package mesa-utils). You might also want to get rid of 
the xorg.conf file, unless you are running Lenny (you did not specify).

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3D acceleration on ATI

2010-11-14 Thread Sthu Deus
Good day.

I'm fighting w/ 3D acceleration on my new installation and have such
DRM related items in the X log file:

...
drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::01:05.0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK)
...
(II) RADEON(0): [dri] Found DRI library version 1.3.0 and kernel module
version 1.32.0
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering experimental on RS400/Xpress 200
enabled
...
drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns 7
drmOpenByBusid: drmGetBusid reports pci::01:05.0
(II) [drm] DRM interface version 1.3
(II) [drm] DRM open master succeeded.
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Using the DRM lock SAREA also for drawables.
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xc800
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] register handle = 0x2fff9000
...
(==) RADEON(0): Backing store disabled
(II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0x2b7ff000 at
0x7fbb664bc000 (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Closed DRM master.
(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(II) RADEON(0): EXA Composite requires CP on R5xx/IGP
(II) RADEON(0): num pipes is 1
...


in xorg.conf I have:

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout0"
Screen "Screen1"
InputDevice"Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

#Section "Module"
#   Load  "glx"
#   Load  "GLcore"
#   Load  "extmod"
#   Load  "dbe"
#   Load  "record"
#   Load  "dri"
#   Load  "xtrap"
#EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option  "AllowEmptyInput" "no"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "kbd"
Option  "XkbRules"  "xorg"
Option  "XkbModel"  "pc105"
Option  "XkbLayout" "us,ru"
Option  "XkbVariant""winkeys"
Option  "XkbOptions""grp:ctrl_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor0"
ModelName"LCD Unknown 1280x800"
#   HorizSync31.5 - 90.0
#   VertRefresh  59.9 - 60.1
#   Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier   "Monitor1"
ModelName"LCD Samsung 1600x900"
#   HorizSync31.5 - 90.0
#   VertRefresh  59.9 - 60.1
#   Option  "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "videocard0"
Driver  "radeon"
BusID   "PCI:1:5:0"
Option  "DRI" "on"
Option  "AccelMethod"   "EXA"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1280x800"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor"Monitor1"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Viewport   0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1600x900"
EndSubSection
EndSection



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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-12-03 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 12:49:58PM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:

From http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon :
Current status as of 09/2008:

   * Radeon 7000 - X1950: well supported in both 2D and 3D by the
free drivers (ie. Radeon driver 6.9.0 and Mesa 7.2)
   * Radeon X2000 - X4870: work in 2D, 3D support is under
development and first working 3D snapshot drivers are probably
available by the end of 2008.


Thanks a lot for the information.

Shade and sweet water!

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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-12-02 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 02:32, Stephan Seitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:11:42AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>> It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
>> if the open driver may work :-)
>
> Well, I'm looking for a new PCIe video card. My old card is one with NVidia
> chip (GV-N68128DH Silentpipe). Since I would prefer open drivers as well,
> which ATI card would you suggest (equal or better than my old card)?
> Normally I'm using Debian Testing, but I don't have problems using X and
> mesa from unstable.

>From http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/ATIRadeon :
Current status as of 09/2008:

* Radeon 7000 - X1950: well supported in both 2D and 3D by the
free drivers (ie. Radeon driver 6.9.0 and Mesa 7.2)
* Radeon X2000 - X4870: work in 2D, 3D support is under
development and first working 3D snapshot drivers are probably
available by the end of 2008.


The X1900 should be a good upgrade from the 6800. Unfortunately, the
X1900 is similar in price to some of the Radeon 4xxx HD series, which
would be better performing, but do not yet have good 3D though either
the Radeon driver or the RadeonHD driver.


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-12-02 Thread Stephan Seitz

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 01:11:42AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote:

It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
if the open driver may work :-)


Well, I’m looking for a new PCIe video card. My old card is one with 
NVidia chip (GV-N68128DH Silentpipe). Since I would prefer open drivers 
as well, which ATI card would you suggest (equal or better than my old 
card)? Normally I’m using Debian Testing, but I don’t have problems using 
X and mesa from unstable.


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Slim Joe
On 2008/12/1, Kelly wrote:

[snip]

> I am using Sid's Radeon (not HD) 6.9.0+git20081012.c0e6cb6d-1
> with Xorg 7.4 and Mesa 7.2.  I have been using Radeon for a while,
> I think since at least Radeon 6.9.0, Mesa 7.0 and Xorg 7.3.
>
> Some relevant bits from my xorg.conf (I temporarily
> have a different card, but I did not change anything
> besides the Identifier):
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "ATI RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
> Driver  "radeon"
> Option  "AGPmode"   "4"
> Option  "AccelMethod"   "EXA"
> Option  "AccelDFS"  "true"
> Option  "RenderAccel"   "true"
> Option  "DRI"   "true"
> EndSection

Well, another computer is running an X550 PCI-E (RV370) fine with or without
an xorg.conf. I can get my hands on another cheap Radeon PCI-E graphics
card, but it seems a shame to let the onboard graphics just sit around doing
nothing, besides the obvious increased energy consumption of having an
add-on card installed.


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 11:16, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:53, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:11, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >>>
>>>>> I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI
>>>>> site here:
>>>>> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
>>>>> and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does
>>>>> support X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and
>>>>> install this one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Jonathan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
>>>> if the open driver may work :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Kelly Clowers
>>> I agree with you, Kelly, if the open source worked. I've had a Radeon
>>> 9550 for years and tried the open source drivers periodically and have
>>> never got the 3D Acceleration to work using them. Maybe one day it will
>>> but until then ...
>>
>> My Radeon 9550 works great with OSS drivers. Tux racer and
>> Quake 3 both play fine. And there are reports of the rs690 working.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kelly Clowers
> Thanks Kelly. Could you tell me precisely which driver works with 3D and
> I'll give it a try.

I am using Sid's Radeon (not HD) 6.9.0+git20081012.c0e6cb6d-1
with Xorg 7.4 and Mesa 7.2.  I have been using Radeon for a while,
I think since at least Radeon 6.9.0, Mesa 7.0 and Xorg 7.3.

Some relevant bits from my xorg.conf (I temporarily
have a different card, but I did not change anything
besides the Identifier):

Section "Device"
Identifier  "ATI RV350 AR [Radeon 9600]"
Driver  "radeon"
Option  "AGPmode"   "4"
Option  "AccelMethod"   "EXA"
Option  "AccelDFS"  "true"
Option  "RenderAccel"   "true"
Option  "DRI"   "true"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Option  "AIGLX" "true"
Identifier  "Default Layout"
Screen  "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Mouse"
InputDevice "Keyboard"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group   "video"
Mode0666
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option  "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Kelly Clowers wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:53, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:11, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>
>>>> I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI
>>>> site here:
>>>> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
>>>> and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does
>>>> support X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and
>>>> install this one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
>>> if the open driver may work :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kelly Clowers
>> I agree with you, Kelly, if the open source worked. I've had a Radeon
>> 9550 for years and tried the open source drivers periodically and have
>> never got the 3D Acceleration to work using them. Maybe one day it will
>> but until then ...
> 
> My Radeon 9550 works great with OSS drivers. Tux racer and
> Quake 3 both play fine. And there are reports of the rs690 working.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
Thanks Kelly. Could you tell me precisely which driver works with 3D and
I'll give it a try.
Cheers,
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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:53, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kelly Clowers wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:11, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>>> I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI
>>> site here:
>>> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
>>> and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does support
>>> X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and install
>>> this one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jonathan
>>
>>
>> It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
>> if the open driver may work :-)
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kelly Clowers
> I agree with you, Kelly, if the open source worked. I've had a Radeon 9550
> for years and tried the open source drivers periodically and have never got
> the 3D Acceleration to work using them. Maybe one day it will but until
> then ...

My Radeon 9550 works great with OSS drivers. Tux racer and
Quake 3 both play fine. And there are reports of the rs690 working.


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Kelly Clowers wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:11, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  
>> I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI
>> site here:
>> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
>> and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does support
>> X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and install
>> this one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
>> Cheers,
>> Jonathan
> 
> 
> It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
> if the open driver may work :-)
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
I agree with you, Kelly, if the open source worked. I've had a Radeon 9550
for years and tried the open source drivers periodically and have never got
the 3D Acceleration to work using them. Maybe one day it will but until
then ... 
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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 00:11, Jonathan Kaye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI site
> here:
> http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
> and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does support
> X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and install this
> one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
> Cheers,
> Jonathan


It seems like bad policy to recommend closed drivers
if the open driver may work :-)


Cheers,
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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 23:23, Slim Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm using the onboard graphics of my Asus M2A-VM
> motherboard, which is identified as a Radeon X1200
> (RS690). XVideo works with the default open-source drivers,
> although there's noticeable tearing in the video.
>
> However, I cannot get hardware 3D acceleration to
> work. I get the following console message when running
> glxgears/info:
>
> unknown chip id 0x791e, can't guess.
> libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
> libGL error: InitDriver failed
> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
>
> I have the following X-related libraries installed (output
> provided by filtering the output of dpkg through the filter
> 'drm|mesa|radeon'):
>
> libdrm2 [2.3.1-2]
> libgl1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
> libgl1-mesa-dri [7.0.3-6]
> libgl1-mesa-glx [7.0.3-6]
> libglu1-mesa [7.0.3-6]
> libglu1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
> mesa-common-dev [7.0.3-6]
> mesa-utils [7.0.3-6]
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon [1:6.9.0-1+lenny4]
> xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd [1.2.1-2]
>
> Is this a configuration problem fixable by placing the
> correct entry in xorg.conf? Or is this a known limitation
> of the current radeon driver? Note that I'm running without
> an xorg.conf at the moment.

Recent version of Radeon and Radeon HD should be able to
do 3D on RS690. I think Radeon 6.9.0  and RadeonHD 1.2.1
are recent enough. Mesa 7.0.3  is also enough, I think.

What version is your xorg? It may be that it still needs
the dri option in xorg.conf.


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Re: No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-30 Thread Jonathan Kaye
Slim Joe wrote:

> I'm using the onboard graphics of my Asus M2A-VM
> motherboard, which is identified as a Radeon X1200
> (RS690). XVideo works with the default open-source drivers,
> although there's noticeable tearing in the video.
> 
> However, I cannot get hardware 3D acceleration to
> work. I get the following console message when running
> glxgears/info:
> 
> unknown chip id 0x791e, can't guess.
> libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
> libGL error: InitDriver failed
> libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering
> 
> I have the following X-related libraries installed (output
> provided by filtering the output of dpkg through the filter
> 'drm|mesa|radeon'):
> 
> libdrm2 [2.3.1-2]
> libgl1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
> libgl1-mesa-dri [7.0.3-6]
> libgl1-mesa-glx [7.0.3-6]
> libglu1-mesa [7.0.3-6]
> libglu1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
> mesa-common-dev [7.0.3-6]
> mesa-utils [7.0.3-6]
> xserver-xorg-video-radeon [1:6.9.0-1+lenny4]
> xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd [1.2.1-2]
> 
> Is this a configuration problem fixable by placing the
> correct entry in xorg.conf? Or is this a known limitation
> of the current radeon driver? Note that I'm running without
> an xorg.conf at the moment.
Hi SJ,
I assume you mean a Mobility Radeon X1200 card. You can go to the ATI site
here:
http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
and get the most recent driver that supports your card (8.10 does support
X1200 but I'm not sure about 8.11). Remove the old drivers and install this
one and your 3D acceleration should start working.
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No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-29 Thread Slim Joe
I'm using the onboard graphics of my Asus M2A-VM
motherboard, which is identified as a Radeon X1200
(RS690). XVideo works with the default open-source drivers,
although there's noticeable tearing in the video.

However, I cannot get hardware 3D acceleration to
work. I get the following console message when running
glxgears/info:

unknown chip id 0x791e, can't guess.
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering

I have the following X-related libraries installed (output
provided by filtering the output of dpkg through the filter
'drm|mesa|radeon'):

libdrm2 [2.3.1-2]
libgl1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
libgl1-mesa-dri [7.0.3-6]
libgl1-mesa-glx [7.0.3-6]
libglu1-mesa [7.0.3-6]
libglu1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
mesa-common-dev [7.0.3-6]
mesa-utils [7.0.3-6]
xserver-xorg-video-radeon [1:6.9.0-1+lenny4]
xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd [1.2.1-2]

Is this a configuration problem fixable by placing the
correct entry in xorg.conf? Or is this a known limitation
of the current radeon driver? Note that I'm running without
an xorg.conf at the moment.


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No 3D acceleration for Radeon X1250 (RS690)?

2008-11-29 Thread Slim Joe
I'm using the onboard graphics of my Asus M2A-VM
motherboard, which is identified as a Radeon X1200
(RS690). XVideo works with the default open-source drivers,
although there's noticeable tearing in the video.

However, I cannot get hardware 3D acceleration to
work. I get the following console message when running
glxgears/info:

unknown chip id 0x791e, can't guess.
libGL warning: 3D driver returned no fbconfigs.
libGL error: InitDriver failed
libGL error: reverting to (slow) indirect rendering

I have the following X-related libraries installed (output
provided by filtering the output of dpkg through the filter
'drm|mesa|radeon'):

libdrm2 [2.3.1-2]
libgl1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
libgl1-mesa-dri [7.0.3-6]
libgl1-mesa-glx [7.0.3-6]
libglu1-mesa [7.0.3-6]
libglu1-mesa-dev [7.0.3-6]
mesa-common-dev [7.0.3-6]
mesa-utils [7.0.3-6]
xserver-xorg-video-radeon [1:6.9.0-1+lenny4]
xserver-xorg-video-radeonhd [1.2.1-2]

Is this a configuration problem fixable by placing the
correct entry in xorg.conf? Or is this a known limitation
of the current radeon driver? Note that I'm running without
an xorg.conf at the moment.


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Re: 3d acceleration on Ati with fglrx?

2007-09-17 Thread Orestes Leal
>> Has anyone had any success with 3d acceleration using fglrx on Debian?
>>
>> I'm currently on Debian testing, with kernel 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP. This
>> is an Ati X-1400 card. I have 2d  with fglrx but not 3d. I tried the

I have a x800 XL Card and works pretty good to me!.

>> Debian packages with module-assistant and also the installer supplied
>> by AMD. but compiling failed with various messages (don't recall what
>> - didn't understand them). Googling mostly sends me back to the
>> solutions I've tried. A lost cause, perhaps?
>
> I installed the ATI Driver (proprietary version 8.39.4) and had to go
> back to kernel version 2.6.18-4-k7 to get everything working properly.
> (At least back to the 2.6.18 series). There is a conflict between the
> latest kernel and the latest ATI driver.

Why?
I think that it´s something wrong here, the problem might be inside debian
because I grab the .run file of fglrx from the main download site
and install in my system running 2.6.22.2 and 'everything'
it´s cool, I play Games, etc.

NOTE: All my instalations of fglrx are 'without' module-assistant
and my builds are generic, NOT DEBIAN BASED.


>There is a conflict between the
> latest kernel and the latest ATI driver.

A While ago it maybe true, but recently this
is not 100% true because the support has been
optimized to avoid this conflicts on the kernel.


Good Luck.
olr.



Re: 3d acceleration on Ati with fglrx?

2007-09-17 Thread Travis Crook
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 23:18:12 +0100
Anthony Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Has anyone had any success with 3d acceleration using fglrx on Debian?
> 
> I'm currently on Debian testing, with kernel 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP. This
> is an Ati X-1400 card. I have 2d  with fglrx but not 3d. I tried the
> Debian packages with module-assistant and also the installer supplied
> by AMD. but compiling failed with various messages (don't recall what
> - didn't understand them). Googling mostly sends me back to the
> solutions I've tried. A lost cause, perhaps?

I installed the ATI Driver (proprietary version 8.39.4) and had to go
back to kernel version 2.6.18-4-k7 to get everything working properly.
(At least back to the 2.6.18 series). There is a conflict between the
latest kernel and the latest ATI driver.  

Hope that helps!

> 
> Anthony
> 


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3d acceleration on Ati with fglrx?

2007-09-17 Thread Anthony Campbell
Has anyone had any success with 3d acceleration using fglrx on Debian?

I'm currently on Debian testing, with kernel 2.6.21-2-686 #1 SMP. This
is an Ati X-1400 card. I have 2d  with fglrx but not 3d. I tried the
Debian packages with module-assistant and also the installer supplied by
AMD. but compiling failed with various messages (don't recall what -
didn't understand them). Googling mostly sends me back to the solutions
I've tried. A lost cause, perhaps?

Anthony

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Re: 3D acceleration

2007-03-29 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
What is the contents of your configuration file /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
Also a look into the X log file /var/log/Xorg.0.log might help.

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Re: 3D acceleration

2007-03-28 Thread Mark Grieveson
> Would it be possible that you could tell me how to get the 3D
> acceleration operational so that I can use the whole potential of the
> Notebook?

Perhaps at http://dri.freedesktop.org you'll find some helpful hints.
There's details on http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/Building for
building drivers for amd-64, I think.

Mark


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Re: 3D acceleration

2007-03-28 Thread Ron Johnson
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On 03/28/07 06:26, bart hendriks wrote:
> Dear Madam, Dear Sir,
> 
> I have a question concerning 3D acceleration on my Dell Inspiron
> 1501 AMD64 with a Radeon Xpress 1150 3D-capable Graphics card.
> Currently I am using Debian Etch 64 installed via Netinstaller.
> This went perfect and all went smooth.
> 
> Now I installed the FlightGear Simulator, but this turns out to
> be very slow. The freeglut does not start properly and gives the
> quote "This will hurt your performance". It turns out that the 3D
> acceleration is not installed. Searching the internet and asking
> around did not give me any hint on how to get this working under
> Debian. Would it be possible that you could tell me how to get
> the 3D acceleration operational so that I can use the whole
> potential of the Notebook?
> 
> Thank you for your advise, Sincerely, Bart

http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html

http://ati.amd.com/products/catalyst/linux.html#3
Q3: What computer architectures are supported by this driver?
A3: Systems using 32-bit processors from Intel (Pentium III
and later) and AMD (Athlon and later) are currently
supported. 64-bit drivers are available for EM64T/AMD64
based systems. PowerPC, Alpha, and others are not currently
supported.

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3D acceleration

2007-03-28 Thread bart hendriks
Dear Madam,
Dear Sir,

I have a question concerning 3D acceleration on my Dell Inspiron 1501 AMD64 
with a Radeon Xpress 1150 3D-capable Graphics card. Currently I am using Debian 
Etch 64 installed via Netinstaller. This went perfect and all went smooth. 

Now I installed the FlightGear Simulator, but this turns out to be very slow. 
The freeglut does not start properly and gives the quote "This will hurt your 
performance". It turns out that the 3D acceleration is not installed. Searching 
the internet and asking around did not give me any hint on how to get this 
working under Debian. Would it be possible that you could tell me how to get 
the 3D acceleration operational so that I can use the whole potential of the 
Notebook?

Thank you for your advise,
Sincerely,
Bart
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Re: 3D Acceleration

2006-06-25 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Fri, Jun 23, 2006 at 06:10:07PM +0200, LeVA wrote:
> 2006. június 23. 17:53,
> "Leonid Grinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  
> > Running lspci produced:
> >
> > :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH
> > [Graphics Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
> > :00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E
> > DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
  
> > I am wondering how to configure the video card for 3D acceleration,
> > and, in general, faster rendering. I know very little about video
> > cards (as is probably seen by this email). Can anybody help me?
> 
> I think you should need to load the i810fb kernel module, which (according to 
> the kernel documentation) has support for "Full and optimized hardware 
> acceleration at 8, 16 and 24 bpp" for i810 chipset based graphic controllers. 
> Then you need to use xorg's i810 driver. With xorg7 this is in 
> the 'xserver-xorg-video-i810' package.

After installing the 'xserver-xorg-video-i810' (on testing/unstable) or
not (on stable), you'll need to change your config file.  The
easiest (probably) way to do this on Debian is a 'dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xorg' (on testing/unstable) or 'dpkg-reconfigure
xserver-xfree86' (on stable) and choose the defaults for most things,
except the graphics drivers, where you would choose it manually and
scroll to where it says 'i810'.

> I'm saying these with absolutely no experience with that graphic controller, 
> or it's set up. Maybe some other steps are recommended... But it is a good 
> start I think :)

I've also never used that card, so I don't know if acceleration will be
set up for it.

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Re: 3D Acceleration

2006-06-23 Thread LeVA
2006. június 23. 17:53,
"Leonid Grinberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
-> "Debian List" ,:
> Hi all,
>
> I am running Debian Testing on a relatively old Dell machine. I did
> not buy the machine and have none of the manuals for it. Although I
> gave it a hard drive, keyboard, mouse, speakers and monitor, many
> things, including some sort of video card are there.
>
> Running lspci produced:
>
> :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH
> [Graphics Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
> :00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E
> DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
> :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
> :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev
> 02) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
> :00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
> :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
> :01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev
> 09) :01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation
> SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)
>
> I am wondering how to configure the video card for 3D acceleration,
> and, in general, faster rendering. I know very little about video
> cards (as is probably seen by this email). Can anybody help me?
Hi!

I think you should need to load the i810fb kernel module, which (according to 
the kernel documentation) has support for "Full and optimized hardware 
acceleration at 8, 16 and 24 bpp" for i810 chipset based graphic controllers. 
Then you need to use xorg's i810 driver. With xorg7 this is in 
the 'xserver-xorg-video-i810' package.
I'm saying these with absolutely no experience with that graphic controller, 
or it's set up. Maybe some other steps are recommended... But it is a good 
start I think :)

HTH,

Daniel

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3D Acceleration

2006-06-23 Thread Leonid Grinberg

Hi all,

I am running Debian Testing on a relatively old Dell machine. I did
not buy the machine and have none of the manuals for it. Although I
gave it a hard drive, keyboard, mouse, speakers and monitor, many
things, including some sort of video card are there.

Running lspci produced:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH
[Graphics Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E
DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
:01:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1371 [AudioPCI-97] (rev 09)
:01:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Accton Technology Corporation
SMC2-1211TX (rev 10)

I am wondering how to configure the video card for 3D acceleration,
and, in general, faster rendering. I know very little about video
cards (as is probably seen by this email). Can anybody help me?

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Re:  3d acceleration (Mach 64 ATI rage pro)

2005-12-29 Thread David Baron
On Thursday 29 December 2005 05:33, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >There are debian packages which are more up-to-date than those sited
> > above. Add to your sources.list:
> >#new DRI locations?
> >deb http://www.nixnuts.net/files/ ./
> >deb-src http://www.nixnuts.net/files/ ./
> >
> >There are three packages: One is has the dri drivers similar to those
> > cited above. There is a script to build them over Debian kernel-headers
> > or follow the instructions cited in the article. The second has the mesa
> > dri-trunk libraries to connect this stuff and the third has an Xorg. This
> > Xorg is compiled to enable mach64--stock Xorg does not work. This Xorg
> > will install over existing Xfree installations and (follow the
> > instructions) will work no sweat.
> >
> >These packages were supposed superceded by newer Xorg and mesa packages.
> > The more recent Xorg will NOT work.
> >  
>
> Thanks everyone for the responses.  I added the above to my sources
> list, and installed xlibmesa-gl1-trunk, and xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk,
> which also resulted in some other packages being installed.  I've
> rebooted, and, when I run glxgears, I get similar speeds, but now
> without the warning, . . .

One more package, the "drm". This contains the sources. If you have 
"kernel-headers" (as opposed to the now "linux-headers") installed, there 
will be a little script to build them for you. Otherwize, go the the 
"linux-core" subdirectory, read the Makefile for instructions. Make mach64.o 
with appropriate reference to your kernel sources, LINUXDIR= if I remember. 
Copy the two resulting mach64.ko and drm.ko to the appropriate place in 
your /lib/modules/kernel  (there may be a drm.ko there but that one will 
not work--you can locate that to find the place, though).

Now make sure agpgart and mach64 modprobe in this order on bootup.



Re: 3d acceleration (Mach 64 ATI rage pro)

2005-12-28 Thread Mark Grieveson



There are debian packages which are more up-to-date than those sited above.
Add to your sources.list:
#new DRI locations?
deb http://www.nixnuts.net/files/ ./
deb-src http://www.nixnuts.net/files/ ./

There are three packages: One is has the dri drivers similar to those cited 
above. There is a script to build them over Debian kernel-headers or follow 
the instructions cited in the article. The second has the mesa dri-trunk 
libraries to connect this stuff and the third has an Xorg. This Xorg is 
compiled to enable mach64--stock Xorg does not work. This Xorg will install 
over existing Xfree installations and (follow the instructions) will work no 
sweat.


These packages were supposed superceded by newer Xorg and mesa packages. The 
more recent Xorg will NOT work.
 

Thanks everyone for the responses.  I added the above to my sources 
list, and installed xlibmesa-gl1-trunk, and xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk, 
which also resulted in some other packages being installed.  I've 
rebooted, and, when I run glxgears, I get similar speeds, but now 
without the warning, . . .


Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".

. . . that had been there previously.  Here are the speeds I'm currently 
getting:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears
470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 94.000 FPS
548 frames in 5.0 seconds = 109.600 FPS
600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS
480 frames in 5.0 seconds = 96.000 FPS
600 frames in 5.0 seconds = 120.000 FPS

I think I am close to achieving 3d acceleration, but not quite there yet 
(unless this is the best a Mach 64 video card can do).  If people have 
any further hints on getting 3d acceleration for a Mach 64 ATI rage pro, 
I definitely appreciate it.


Below is the result of "glxinfo":

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxinfo
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
   GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
   GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_OML_swap_method, GLX_SGI_make_current_read,
   GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.4
client glx extensions:
   GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
   GLX_MESA_swap_control, GLX_MESA_swap_frame_usage, GLX_OML_swap_method,
   GLX_OML_sync_control, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
   GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGIS_multisample, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
   GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
GLX extensions:
   GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,
   GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIS_multisample,
   GLX_SGIX_visual_select_group
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
OpenGL extensions:
   GL_ARB_depth_texture, GL_ARB_imaging, GL_ARB_multitexture,
   GL_ARB_point_parameters, GL_ARB_point_sprite, GL_ARB_shadow,
   GL_ARB_shadow_ambient, GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp,
   GL_ARB_texture_cube_map, GL_ARB_texture_env_add,
   GL_ARB_texture_env_combine, GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar,
   GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3, GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat,
   GL_ARB_transpose_matrix, GL_ARB_window_pos, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_bgra,
   GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_func_separate, GL_EXT_blend_logic_op,
   GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract, GL_EXT_clip_volume_hint,
   GL_EXT_copy_texture, GL_EXT_draw_range_elements, GL_EXT_fog_coord,
   GL_EXT_multi_draw_arrays, GL_EXT_packed_pixels, GL_EXT_point_parameters,
   GL_EXT_polygon_offset, GL_EXT_rescale_normal, GL_EXT_secondary_color,
   GL_EXT_separate_specular_color, GL_EXT_shadow_funcs,
   GL_EXT_stencil_two_side, GL_EXT_stencil_wrap, GL_EXT_subtexture,
   GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
   GL_EXT_texture_env_add, GL_EXT_texture_env_combine,
   GL_EXT_texture_env_dot3, GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias, GL_EXT_texture_object,
   GL_EXT_texture_rectangle, GL_EXT_vertex_array, GL_APPLE_packed_pixels,
   GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3, GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once,
   GL_ATIX_texture_env_combine3, GL_IBM_texture_mirrored_repeat,
   GL_INGR_blend_func_separate, GL_MESA_pack_invert, GL_MESA_ycbcr_texture,
   GL_NV_blend_square, GL_NV_point_sprite, GL_NV_texgen_reflection,
   GL_NV_texture_rectangle, GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap,
   GL_SGIS_texture_border_clamp, GL_SGIS_texture_edge_clamp,
   GL_SGIS_texture_lod, GL_SGIX_depth_texture, GL_SGIX_shadow,
   GL_SGIX_shadow_ambient, GL_SUN_multi_draw_arrays
glu version: 1.3
glu extensions:
   GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess

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Re: ati radeon 9200 - slow 3d acceleration

2004-01-17 Thread LeVA
2004. január 17. 22:41 dátummal Bijan Soleymani ezt írta:
> On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:11:51PM +0100, LeVA wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have an ati radeon 9200 card, and want to use it's 3d
> > acceleration.
> >
> > Programs, which needs 3d acceleration (tuxracer, unreal tournament)
> > are very slow, but that glxgears program tells me, that it runs at
> > 240fps.
>
> 240 fps on glxgears is slow, I have a radeon 7500 and get over 1000
> fps at the original size and 170 when maximized.
>
> > Which xfree driver do you recommend, the 'fglrx' or the buil-tin
> > 'radeon' driver?
> > And what modules do I need to load (glx,dri,glcore?), if I want to
> > play 3d games smoothly?
> > Anybody have the same problem with an ati card?
>
> With my radeon 7500 I use the built in radeon driver.
>
> Here's what I have in my XF86Config (these are the relevant lines):
> Section "Module"
> Load"GLcore"
> Load"bitmap"
> Load"dbe"
> Load"ddc"
> Load"dri"
> Load"extmod"
> Load"freetype"
> Load"glx"
> Load"int10"
> Load"record"
> Load"speedo"
> Load"type1"
> Load"vbe"
> EndSection
>
> Section "Device"
> Identifier  "Radeon"
> Driver  "ati"
> EndSection
>
> Section "DRI"
> Mode0666
> EndSection
>
> Bijan

OMG! Thank you! This works! I can not beleive it. I'm working on this 
since ~12:00, and now, after more than twelve hours later, you just 
paste your config lines, and it works. I can not sufficiently thank 
you, but Thanks!

Daniel


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Re: ati radeon 9200 - slow 3d acceleration

2004-01-17 Thread LeVA
2004. január 17. 22:49 dátummal Roberto Sanchez ezt írta:
> LeVA wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I have an ati radeon 9200 card, and want to use it's 3d
> > acceleration.
> >
> > Info:
> >
> >  o XFree86 Version 4.3.99.902 (4.4.0 RC 2)
> >- radeon drm as module (from the Xdrm.tgz package, source)
>
> XFree86 4.3 from experimental will do just fine, unless you would
> rather use the binary fglrx module, which is available for
> X 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3.  Thus you can run Woody, Sarge, or Sid, and
> it will work.
>
> >  o Driver from the ati's hp 3.7.0
> >- fglrx (xfree driver, and kernel module by that name)
> >- ati's libGL.so
>
> Good, that is the latest release.
>
> >  o linux-2.4.24 kernel
> >- agpgart as module
> >- radeon drm as module
>
> You should really compile AGPGART into the kernel, but it is
> ultimately a matter of preference.
>
> > I have to load the fglrx kernel module first, and after that, I can
> > load the agpgart, and radeon drm modules.
>
> This is WRONG.  You first load the agpgart module, and then the
> radeon OR fglrx, but not both.  This should be accomlished by adding
> the appropriate lines to /etc/modules.
>
Done.

# lsmod
Module  Size  Used byTainted: P
fglrx 167336   0  (unused)
agpgart16800   0  (unused)
...
..
.

I've restarted X, but as you can see, they are still unused. What could 
be the problem? Even if I start the glxgears, they are stay unused. Is 
this because I didn't load the DRI module in XF86Config file?

> > I've also downloaded that SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz
> > (http://www.libsdl.org/opengl/SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz) and compiled
> > it, and I can see those gears spinning.
>
> What is the framerate you are getting?

~200.
with fullscreen ~50.

>
> > My problem is (at least I think it is a problem), that when I start
> > X, and start that glxgears program, and during this I type 'lsmod'
> > to a console, I see that no process is using the loaded modules
> > (fglrx, agpgart etc...), although I'm using the fglrx driver in my
> > XF86Config file.
>
> That in because you must load agpgart first (see my comment above).
>
> > Programs, which needs 3d acceleration (tuxracer, unreal tournament)
> > are very slow, but that glxgears program tells me, that it runs at
> > 240fps.
>
> What is the output of `glxinfo |grep render'?  You almost certainly
> do not have direct rendering enabled.  Also, what is in your
> /var/log/XFree86.log and /etg/X11/XF86-Config4?

This is true, I don't have  the direct rendering enabled, because I can 
not load it with xfree. I've explained in my message, that I can not use 
both GLX (which I need for the glxgear program to work) and the DRI 
module. I must choose from those. If I load both the GLX and the DRI 
modules in xfree, and using 'fglrx' xfree driver, then the X doesn't 
start, and I get this error message in the XFree86.0.log:

Fatal server error:
__glXExtensionInit: AddExtensions failed

If I enable both the GLX and the DRI (again), but using the 'radeon' 
xfree driver, X simply hangs my system and I have reset.

If I understand you clearly, I need the GLX and the DRI module too, for 
a working 3d acceleration?

My kernel config:

 /dev/agpgart (AGP Support)
[*]   Intel 440LX/BX/GX and I815/I820/I830M/I830MP/I840/I845/I850/I860 
support
[ ]   ATI IGP chipset support
Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 DRI support)  --->
[*] Direct Rendering Manager (XFree86 DRI support)
[ ]   Build drivers for old (XFree 4.0) DRM
--- DRM 4.1 drivers
   ATI Radeon

In my XF86Config:

Load"glx"
#   Load"dri"
Load"GLcore"
Load"extmod"
Load"v4l"
Load"pex5"
Load"record"
#   Load"xie"
#   Load"xtrap"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
##  Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
#   Load"ddc"
Load"freetype"
Load"int10"
#   Load"vbe"



>
> > I'm loading the glx, and the GLcore modules, but I can not load the
> > dri module too. It conflicts with the glx mod, so when I select to
> > load both of them, I get this error (when starting x):
> >
> > Fatal server error:
> > __glXExtensionInit: AddExtensions failed
> >
> > I must ch

Re: ati radeon 9200 - slow 3d acceleration

2004-01-17 Thread Bijan Soleymani
On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 10:11:51PM +0100, LeVA wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I have an ati radeon 9200 card, and want to use it's 3d acceleration.
> 
> Programs, which needs 3d acceleration (tuxracer, unreal tournament) are 
> very slow, but that glxgears program tells me, that it runs at 240fps.

240 fps on glxgears is slow, I have a radeon 7500 and get over 1000 fps
at the original size and 170 when maximized.

> Which xfree driver do you recommend, the 'fglrx' or the buil-tin 
> 'radeon' driver?
> And what modules do I need to load (glx,dri,glcore?), if I want to play 
> 3d games smoothly?
> Anybody have the same problem with an ati card?

With my radeon 7500 I use the built in radeon driver.

Here's what I have in my XF86Config (these are the relevant lines):
Section "Module"
Load"GLcore"
Load"bitmap"
Load"dbe"
Load"ddc"
Load"dri"
Load"extmod"
Load"freetype"
Load"glx"
Load"int10"
Load"record"
Load"speedo"
Load"type1"
Load"vbe"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier  "Radeon"
Driver  "ati"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode0666
EndSection

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Re: ati radeon 9200 - slow 3d acceleration

2004-01-17 Thread Roberto Sanchez
LeVA wrote:
Hi!

I have an ati radeon 9200 card, and want to use it's 3d acceleration.

Info:

 o XFree86 Version 4.3.99.902 (4.4.0 RC 2)
   - radeon drm as module (from the Xdrm.tgz package, source)
XFree86 4.3 from experimental will do just fine, unless you would
rather use the binary fglrx module, which is available for
X 4.1, 4.2, and 4.3.  Thus you can run Woody, Sarge, or Sid, and
it will work.
 o Driver from the ati's hp 3.7.0
   - fglrx (xfree driver, and kernel module by that name)
   - ati's libGL.so
Good, that is the latest release.
 o linux-2.4.24 kernel
   - agpgart as module
   - radeon drm as module
You should really compile AGPGART into the kernel, but it is ultimately
a matter of preference.
I have to load the fglrx kernel module first, and after that, I can load 
the agpgart, and radeon drm modules.
This is WRONG.  You first load the agpgart module, and then the radeon
OR fglrx, but not both.  This should be accomlished by adding the
appropriate lines to /etc/modules.
I've also downloaded that SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz 
(http://www.libsdl.org/opengl/SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz) and compiled it, 
and I can see those gears spinning.

What is the framerate you are getting?

My problem is (at least I think it is a problem), that when I start X, 
and start that glxgears program, and during this I type 'lsmod' to a 
console, I see that no process is using the loaded modules (fglrx, 
agpgart etc...), although I'm using the fglrx driver in my XF86Config 
file.
That in because you must load agpgart first (see my comment above).

Programs, which needs 3d acceleration (tuxracer, unreal tournament) are 
very slow, but that glxgears program tells me, that it runs at 240fps.

What is the output of `glxinfo |grep render'?  You almost certainly
do not have direct rendering enabled.  Also, what is in your
/var/log/XFree86.log and /etg/X11/XF86-Config4?
I'm loading the glx, and the GLcore modules, but I can not load the dri 
module too. It conflicts with the glx mod, so when I select to load 
both of them, I get this error (when starting x):

Fatal server error:
__glXExtensionInit: AddExtensions failed
I must choose, wether to load the dri or the glx module. But I think I 
need both of them, cause when I start glxgears, it says:
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".

And when starting unrealtournament, I get this error message:

X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
  Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XFree86-DGA)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  2 (XF86DGADirectVideo)
  Serial number of failed request:  114
  Current serial number in output stream:  115
Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault]
Aborting.
XIO:  fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ":0.0"
  after 125 requests (123 known processed) with 5 events remaining.
All of the above errors are with the 'fglrx' xfree driver, and glx (no 
dri then) and glcore loaded .

I tried to use xfree's 'radeon' driver, with xfree's libGL.so, and fglrx 
kernel module unloaded. The speed of the glxgears was still high 
(~120fps), and tuxracer was still very slow, but I could at least start 
unreal tournament. But that was pretty slow too.
That is not a high frame rate.  I have a Radeon 9000 Pro on a system
with an AMD XP 2500+.  My glxgears framerate is between 2200 and 2300
fps.
I think that my system doesn't use the 3d acceleration of my radeon card 
at all. 

That is almost certainly true.

Which xfree driver do you recommend, the 'fglrx' or the buil-tin 
'radeon' driver?
And what modules do I need to load (glx,dri,glcore?), if I want to play 
3d games smoothly?
Anybody have the same problem with an ati card?

I use the fglrx module (so that I can play Neverwinter Nights).  But
the radeon module give better performance for everything else.  The
pain about the fglrx module is that it is an extra step that you must
accomplish each time you install a kernel.
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2004-01-17 Thread LeVA
Hi!

I have an ati radeon 9200 card, and want to use it's 3d acceleration.

Info:

 o XFree86 Version 4.3.99.902 (4.4.0 RC 2)
   - radeon drm as module (from the Xdrm.tgz package, source)
 o Driver from the ati's hp 3.7.0
   - fglrx (xfree driver, and kernel module by that name)
   - ati's libGL.so
 o linux-2.4.24 kernel
   - agpgart as module
   - radeon drm as module

I have to load the fglrx kernel module first, and after that, I can load 
the agpgart, and radeon drm modules.
I've also downloaded that SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz 
(http://www.libsdl.org/opengl/SDLgears-1.0.2.tar.gz) and compiled it, 
and I can see those gears spinning.

My problem is (at least I think it is a problem), that when I start X, 
and start that glxgears program, and during this I type 'lsmod' to a 
console, I see that no process is using the loaded modules (fglrx, 
agpgart etc...), although I'm using the fglrx driver in my XF86Config 
file.
Programs, which needs 3d acceleration (tuxracer, unreal tournament) are 
very slow, but that glxgears program tells me, that it runs at 240fps.

I'm loading the glx, and the GLcore modules, but I can not load the dri 
module too. It conflicts with the glx mod, so when I select to load 
both of them, I get this error (when starting x):

Fatal server error:
__glXExtensionInit: AddExtensions failed

I must choose, wether to load the dri or the glx module. But I think I 
need both of them, cause when I start glxgears, it says:
Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".

And when starting unrealtournament, I get this error message:

X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
  Major opcode of failed request:  136 (XFree86-DGA)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  2 (XF86DGADirectVideo)
  Serial number of failed request:  114
  Current serial number in output stream:  115
Signal: SIGSEGV [segmentation fault]
Aborting.
XIO:  fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server ":0.0"
      after 125 requests (123 known processed) with 5 events remaining.

All of the above errors are with the 'fglrx' xfree driver, and glx (no 
dri then) and glcore loaded .

I tried to use xfree's 'radeon' driver, with xfree's libGL.so, and fglrx 
kernel module unloaded. The speed of the glxgears was still high 
(~120fps), and tuxracer was still very slow, but I could at least start 
unreal tournament. But that was pretty slow too.
I think that my system doesn't use the 3d acceleration of my radeon card 
at all. 

Which xfree driver do you recommend, the 'fglrx' or the buil-tin 
'radeon' driver?
And what modules do I need to load (glx,dri,glcore?), if I want to play 
3d games smoothly?
Anybody have the same problem with an ati card?

Thanks for the help!

Daniel




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Re: Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-12 Thread Lucas Bergman
> > One similar problem I encountered was that agpgart must be loaded
> > before the radeon module.  Just get out of X, manually unload the
> > radeon module, make sure agpgart is loaded, then start X back up
> > (it will automatically load the radeon module again), and see what
> > happens.
>
> Thank you. Your suggestion does enable direct rendering, but then it
> doesn't work correctly. In fact X11 is completely screwed...
>
> Actually, I noticed that when loading the agpgart module I get this
> message:
>
> Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
> agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 201M
> agpgart: Detected SiS 630 chipset
> agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe000
>
> and this is an excerpt from "lspci -v" (full output is attached in
> case you want to read it):
>
> 00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY
> [Radeon 7000/VE] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> [ ... ]
>  
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
> SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 20) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
> [ ... ]
>
> As far as I can judge (I'm really not an expert) it looks like I have
> two different graphics controllers on my motherboard (unfortunately I
> don't have the board's manual so I can't check), and agpgart finds the
> wrong one. Is this correct?

Sort of.  It looks like your Radeon card is a PCI card, and your SiS
card is AGP.  I don't think that DRI works with PCI Radeon cards at
all, so that's out (don't take my word for it, though: check
dri.sourceforge.net).  The best I can tell you if you want DRI is
check if that SiS chip is supported by DRI and if it is, reconfigure X
to use that card instead.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-12 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 23:01, Lucas Bergman wrote:

One similar problem I encountered was that agpgart must be loaded
before the radeon module.  Just get out of X, manually unload the
radeon module, make sure agpgart is loaded, then start X back up (it
will automatically load the radeon module again), and see what
happens.


Thank you. Your suggestion does enable direct rendering, but then it
doesn't work correctly. In fact X11 is completely screwed: I get a blue
screen with garbage at its top, the mouse pointer is displayed (as a
cross) and I can move it, but nothing happens when I click, and I can't
even kill X11 with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (Ctrl-Alt-F1/F6 don't work either)
so I have to push the reboot button in order to get out of it. (The
machine isn't network-connected.)
Actually, I noticed that when loading the agpgart module I get this
message:
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 201M
agpgart: Detected SiS 630 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe000
and this is an excerpt from "lspci -v" (full output is attached in case
you want to read it):
00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY
[Radeon 7000/VE] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[SNIP]
 
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 20) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
[SNIP]
As far as I can judge (I'm really not an expert) it looks like I have
two different graphics controllers on my motherboard (unfortunately I
don't have the board's manual so I can't check), and agpgart finds the
wrong one. Is this correct? Is someone able to tell me what I should do?
Your Radeon is on BusID PCI:0:15:0 (it is actually a PCI card).  Your
SiS card os on BusID PCI:1:0:0 (it is actually an AGP card).  It looks
like the agpgart and radeon mdules are conflicting because they are
accessing different cards.
HTH,

-Roberto


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Re: Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-12 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 23:01, Lucas Bergman wrote:
> One similar problem I encountered was that agpgart must be loaded
> before the radeon module.  Just get out of X, manually unload the
> radeon module, make sure agpgart is loaded, then start X back up (it
> will automatically load the radeon module again), and see what
> happens.

Thank you. Your suggestion does enable direct rendering, but then it
doesn't work correctly. In fact X11 is completely screwed: I get a blue
screen with garbage at its top, the mouse pointer is displayed (as a
cross) and I can move it, but nothing happens when I click, and I can't
even kill X11 with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (Ctrl-Alt-F1/F6 don't work either)
so I have to push the reboot button in order to get out of it. (The
machine isn't network-connected.)

Actually, I noticed that when loading the agpgart module I get this
message:

Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 201M
agpgart: Detected SiS 630 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe000

and this is an excerpt from "lspci -v" (full output is attached in case
you want to read it):

00:0f.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV100 QY
[Radeon 7000/VE] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: PC Partner Limited: Unknown device 7c02
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at d800 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
I/O ports at e800 [size=256]
Memory at e510 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]
SiS630 GUI Accelerator+3D (rev 20) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: Chaintech Computer Co. Ltd: Unknown device a170
Flags: 66Mhz, medium devsel, IRQ 5
BIST result: 00
Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [disabled] [size=128M]
Memory at e500 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled]
[size=128K]
I/O ports at d000 [disabled] [size=128]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 1
Capabilities: [50] AGP version 2.0

As far as I can judge (I'm really not an expert) it looks like I have
two different graphics controllers on my motherboard (unfortunately I
don't have the board's manual so I can't check), and agpgart finds the
wrong one. Is this correct? Is someone able to tell me what I should do?

Thanks again
 Gerardo

P.S. the kernel is 2.4.22 from Debian testing.

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 630 Host (rev 20)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
Memory at e000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]
Capabilities: [c0] AGP version 2.0

00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0) (prog-if 
80 [Master])
Subsystem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS5513 EIDE Controller (A,B step)
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 16
I/O ports at 4000 [size=16]

00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0

00:01.1 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 10/100 Ethernet 
(rev 81)
Subsystem: Chaintech Computer Co. Ltd: Unknown device a172
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e400 [size=256]
Memory at e511 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Expansion ROM at  [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07) 
(prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at e5111000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:01.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.0 Controller (rev 07) 
(prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Onboard USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
Memory at e5112000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio 
Accelerator (rev 02)
Subsystem: Chaintech Computer Co. Ltd SiS PCI Audio Accelerator
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
Memory at e5113000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 2

00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge 
(AGP) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: fast devsel
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
I/O behind bridge: d000-dfff
Memory behind bridge: e500-e50f
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d000-d7ff

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Re: Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-07 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Gerardo Ballabio wrote:
Hi all,
may I request your help?
I've recently bought a Radeon 7000 graphics card for my home PC running
Debian testing. (XFree86 version is 4.2.1.1.)
Despite having tried several suggestions (I've specified the "radeon"
driver in place of "ati" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, loaded the "radeon"
kernel module, and played with a couple of other settings), I haven't
been able to get 3D acceleration to work. These are the relevant lines
from the output of glxinfo, as I understand:
What kernel are you running?

-Roberto


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Re: Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-07 Thread Lucas Bergman
> may I request your help?

Yes!

> I've recently bought a Radeon 7000 graphics card for my home PC
> running Debian testing. (XFree86 version is 4.2.1.1.)  Despite
> having tried several suggestions (I've specified the "radeon" driver
> in place of "ati" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, loaded the "radeon"
> kernel module, and played with a couple of other settings), I
> haven't been able to get 3D acceleration to work. These are the
> relevant lines from the output of glxinfo, as I understand:
>
> direct rendering: No
> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
>
> while glxgears reports an awful 80 FPS.
> I guess that these lines from /var/log/XFree86.0.log identify the
> problem:
>
> (EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
> (EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler
>
> I tried loading the "agpgart" kernel module, but to no effect.  The
> full /var/log/XFree86.0.log, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and the output
> of glxinfo are attached.

One similar problem I encountered was that agpgart must be loaded
before the radeon module.  Just get out of X, manually unload the
radeon module, make sure agpgart is loaded, then start X back up (it
will automatically load the radeon module again), and see what
happens.

Hope this helps,
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Help with AGP and 3D acceleration for Radeon 7000

2004-01-07 Thread Gerardo Ballabio
Hi all,
may I request your help?

I've recently bought a Radeon 7000 graphics card for my home PC running
Debian testing. (XFree86 version is 4.2.1.1.)
Despite having tried several suggestions (I've specified the "radeon"
driver in place of "ati" in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, loaded the "radeon"
kernel module, and played with a couple of other settings), I haven't
been able to get 3D acceleration to work. These are the relevant lines
from the output of glxinfo, as I understand:

direct rendering: No
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect

while glxgears reports an awful 80 FPS.
I guess that these lines from /var/log/XFree86.0.log identify the
problem:

(EE) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(EE) RADEON(0): [drm] failed to remove DRM signal handler

I tried loading the "agpgart" kernel module, but to no effect.
The full /var/log/XFree86.0.log, /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, and the output
of glxinfo are attached.

I'd be very grateful if anybody could help me.

Please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list.

P.S. a less critical problem: as reported in /var/log/XFree86.0.log,
XFree86 estimates my monitor resolution to be 75 DPI, while it's
actually 96 DPI (15" screen at 1024x768). Gnome gets that correctly, as
I could see with gconf-editor, but then I get inconsistent font sizes
between the Gnome panel and applications (and sometimes, even between
instances of the same app!). I was only able to cure the inconsistency
by setting the gconf resolution to 75 too, but then, 13-points fonts
look like they were 10-points.
Is there a way to force XFree86 to use the correct resolution?

Many thanks in advance.
 Gerardo

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-12 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello Roberto again;

Have rebooted and sorted out PC regarding to the new kernel - it loads 
the AGPGART module and detects the G550 card no problem.  Still OpenGL 
doesn't work on both heads of the G550, I get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ glxgears
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
on both heads.

Looking at someone's else post about OpenGL and glxgears, I get around 
200fps on the Nvidia card as well so hardware rendering seems not to 
work on that either..

Here's a copy of the XFree86 log and dmesg;

http://www.biased.org/log/XFree86.0.log
http://www.biased.org/log/dmesg
Thanks very much for your help again :)

Cheers - Piers

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-12 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Piers Kittel wrote:
Hello Roberto;

 > nForce2 GART support is in 2.4.22 and newer kernels.  The nVidia
 > drivers have been modified (via a patch) to compile against 2.5.x and
 > 2.6.x kernels.  If you want I can email you the patch, or you can
 > Goolge for it, or search the threads at nforcershq.com.
Aha.  Got a bit confused there for a bit, as I've got the 2.4.20 kernel 
patched to 2.4.21, couldn't see the option in "make menuconfig", then 
realised you're talking about the .22 not the .21 kernel!  Doh. 
Compiling the 2.4.22 kernel at the moment, although can't reboot the 
computer as am at work and SSH'ing into my PC - can't recompile network 
card drivers without network card support ;)  But will sort it out 
tonight.  Hopefully that'll work now.

Hope it works out.

 > modeversions.h is only present after you make
 > [config|oldconfig|xconfig] and then 'make dep'
Aha.  But with the 2.6.0 kernel you don't have to do "make dep" - if I 
want modversions.h should I do a "make dep" or best get a patch for the 
nVidia drivers?  Might stick with the 2.4.22 kernel as it does have 
support for the NForce2 chipset.

Not sure on the 2.6 kernel.  I run it on my laptop, but it doesn't have
anything exotic that I use (I don't use the winmodem anymore).  So I
just compile and install at one shteo.

 > Also, what is in the Xfree86 log?

Which part exactly do you need to see?  If the whole lot, what's the 
best way to get it over?

Post it on the web. :-)

Thanks very much for your help so far :)

Cheers - Piers

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-12 Thread Kjetil Kjernsmo
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 04:01, Marc Wilson wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:07:12AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I try and take good notes setting things up, but all I have is
> > "doesn't work on secondary head".  My memory is that I saw a reason
> > why it doesn't work on the secondary head but my Googling isn't
> > finding that right now.  Oh, maybe it's because I'm using Xinerama.
>
> Correct.  No DRI on second head, means no acceleration on second
> head.  If you use Xinerama then you're not going to get acceleration
> on either head.

I just set up a local multi-user system using Backstreet Ruby and a 
modified X server. I was actually able to run DRI on the primary head 
by loading the DRI module, and then set
Option "DRI""False"
on the second head (in the Device section). 

I don't know if it'll work for people with a different setup, but it is 
worth a shot.

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-12 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello Roberto;

> nForce2 GART support is in 2.4.22 and newer kernels.  The nVidia
> drivers have been modified (via a patch) to compile against 2.5.x and
> 2.6.x kernels.  If you want I can email you the patch, or you can
> Goolge for it, or search the threads at nforcershq.com.
Aha.  Got a bit confused there for a bit, as I've got the 2.4.20 kernel 
patched to 2.4.21, couldn't see the option in "make menuconfig", then 
realised you're talking about the .22 not the .21 kernel!  Doh. 
Compiling the 2.4.22 kernel at the moment, although can't reboot the 
computer as am at work and SSH'ing into my PC - can't recompile network 
card drivers without network card support ;)  But will sort it out 
tonight.  Hopefully that'll work now.

> modeversions.h is only present after you make
> [config|oldconfig|xconfig] and then 'make dep'
Aha.  But with the 2.6.0 kernel you don't have to do "make dep" - if I 
want modversions.h should I do a "make dep" or best get a patch for the 
nVidia drivers?  Might stick with the 2.4.22 kernel as it does have 
support for the NForce2 chipset.

> Also, what is in the Xfree86 log?

Which part exactly do you need to see?  If the whole lot, what's the 
best way to get it over?

Thanks very much for your help so far :)

Cheers - Piers

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-11 Thread Marc Wilson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:07:12AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I try and take good notes setting things up, but all I have is "doesn't 
> work on secondary head".  My memory is that I saw a reason why it 
> doesn't work on the secondary head but my Googling isn't finding that 
> right now.  Oh, maybe it's because I'm using Xinerama.

Correct.  No DRI on second head, means no acceleration on second head.  If
you use Xinerama then you're not going to get acceleration on either head.

If you're getting only 200 fps in glxgears, then that's software rendering.

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-11 Thread Roberto Sanchez
Piers Kittel wrote:
Hello Marc,

 > Don't know a thing about Quake... Quake puts me to sleep.  Can't see
 > it as anything but a good thing that it doesn't work for you.
Heh... was using it as an example OpenGL - that was before someone told 
me about glxgears.

 > Ewww... framebuffer.  Shoot immediately with extreme prejudice.
 > Large caliber weapons.
Killed.

 > Well gee, now you know why DRI doesn't work.  Provide support for your
 > GART.
Have a Nforce2 motherboard, so GART for the NForce2 chipset isn't 
supported.  Upgraded to the 2.6.0-test9 kernel, worked fine, but as I'm 
using an on-board NIC, I have to use an driver from NVidia, and it 
wouldn't compile saying /usr/src/linux/modversions.h were missing - I 
guess its because its a different kernel entirely - so catch 22 
situation, either have GART support for NForce2 chipset, or have 
Internet access.  But then again, trying glxgears gave the same error 
message as the old kernel plus one more line, even tho dmesg shows the 
AGPGART driver finding the NForce2 chipset, and the G550 graphics card.

Any ideas?

Thanks very much for your help again :)

nForce2 GART support is in 2.4.22 and newer kernels.  The nVidia drivers
have been modified (via a patch) to compile against 2.5.x and 2.6.x
kernels.  If you want I can email you the patch, or you can Goolge for
it, or search the threads at nforcershq.com.
modeversions.h is only present after you make [config|oldconfig|xconfig]
and then 'make dep'
Also, what is in the Xfree86 log?

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-11 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello Marc,

> Don't know a thing about Quake... Quake puts me to sleep.  Can't see
> it as anything but a good thing that it doesn't work for you.
Heh... was using it as an example OpenGL - that was before someone told 
me about glxgears.

> Ewww... framebuffer.  Shoot immediately with extreme prejudice.
> Large caliber weapons.
Killed.

> Well gee, now you know why DRI doesn't work.  Provide support for your
> GART.
Have a Nforce2 motherboard, so GART for the NForce2 chipset isn't 
supported.  Upgraded to the 2.6.0-test9 kernel, worked fine, but as I'm 
using an on-board NIC, I have to use an driver from NVidia, and it 
wouldn't compile saying /usr/src/linux/modversions.h were missing - I 
guess its because its a different kernel entirely - so catch 22 
situation, either have GART support for NForce2 chipset, or have 
Internet access.  But then again, trying glxgears gave the same error 
message as the old kernel plus one more line, even tho dmesg shows the 
AGPGART driver finding the NForce2 chipset, and the G550 graphics card.

Any ideas?

Thanks very much for your help again :)

Cheers - Piers

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-11 Thread moseley
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 08:57:56PM -0800, Marc Wilson wrote:

> > Bill,  Fair enough, but it doesn't work on both heads, not just one.
> 
> You should get accelerated OGL on both heads.

I try and take good notes setting things up, but all I have is "doesn't 
work on secondary head".  My memory is that I saw a reason why it 
doesn't work on the secondary head but my Googling isn't finding that 
right now.  Oh, maybe it's because I'm using Xinerama.

ftp://ftp.matrox.com/pub/mga/archive/linux/2002/lnx200notes.txt

   After starting X, there should be a "direct rendering enabled" 
   message in the X server startup log. Please note that DRI isn't 
   enabled if you're using the Xinerama extension. You may want to 
   keep two "XF86Config" files on hand -- one for DRI and the other 
   for DualHead.

Hum, that just talks about DRI, not OpenGL.

On my main head I get about 200fps with glxgears.  On the second head 
the window goes black and my machine gets very slow.

BTW -- I also get:

 (EE) MGA: Failed to load module "mga_hal" (module does not exist, 0)

My guess is I upgraded my kernel at one point and didn't move over that 
module.  I thought that was for Matrox's PowerDesk, which I don't have 
installed.

   The HAL library is not required for basic DualHead support 
   (without a DVI monitor)"

Which is my case.


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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Aaron W. Hsu
Hmmm, alright, here's what it looks like to me . . .

What you are seeing with the framebuffer stuff is for the console.
That's what allows your console to print its text.  When you load X it
is not loading the modules or it can't find them.

To find out whether there is support in the kernel, you really need to
install the source and take a look at it. In my 2.4.22 kernel source,
I find Matrox G400 drivers that claim to also work with the G450.  I
am not sure if they will also work with your G550, but perhaps it
will.  In order to use them, if the kernel image you are using right
now does not offer a module of it, or it is not compiled in [most
likely not]; the best thing I can recomend to you is to try those
modules and compile the drivers as modules with your new kernel.  I
don't know if you have compiled kernels or not before, but it isn't
too bad.

If that doesn't work, http://www.matrox.com has a listing of 3rd party
driver providers, and there are some commercial drivers available from
XIG [I think the URI is http://www.xig.com] but they should offer free
evaluation copies.  There are other sites offering drivers, so I would
check out the matrox site and see what you can find there as well if
recompiling the kernel with matrox drivers does not help.

I hope this helps,

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:52:54PM +, Piers Kittel wrote:
> Marc - here's the Quake 3 error on the G550:
> Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
> But works fine on the TNT2

Don't know a thing about Quake... Quake puts me to sleep.  Can't see it as
anything but a good thing that it doesn't work for you.

> Bill,  Fair enough, but it doesn't work on both heads, not just one.

You should get accelerated OGL on both heads.

> matroxfb: Matrox G550 detected
> fb0: MATROX VGA frame buffer device

Ewww... framebuffer.  Shoot immediately with extreme prejudice.  Large
caliber weapons.

> But then again, AGPART doesn't work:
> Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
> agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
> agpgart: unsupported bridge
> agpgart: no supported devices found.
> [drm:drm_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module.

Well gee, now you know why DRI doesn't work.  Provide support for your
GART.

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Piers Kittel
To Aaron, Marc and Bill,

Marc - here's the Quake 3 error on the G550:

Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
But works fine on the TNT2
Bill,  Fair enough, but it doesn't work on both heads, not just one.

Aaron;

How do I check if its compiled in the kernel?  I think it seems to be 
working... (taken from /var/log/dmesg)

matroxfb: Matrox G550 detected
matroxfb: MTRR's turned on
matroxfb: 640x480x8bpp (virtual: 640x26208)
matroxfb: framebuffer at 0xE600, mapped to 0xe0805000, size 33554432
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 80x30
fb0: MATROX VGA frame buffer device

matroxfb_crtc2: secondary head of fb0 was registered as fb1
But then again, AGPART doesn't work:

Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M
agpgart: unsupported bridge
agpgart: no supported devices found.
[drm:drm_init] *ERROR* Cannot initialize the agpgart module.
Taken from the XFree86.0.log:

(--) PCI: (1:6:0) NVidia Riva TNT2 M64 rev 21, Mem @ 0xeb00/24, 
0xe400/25
(--) PCI:*(2:0:0) Matrox MGA G550 AGP rev 1, Mem @ 0xe600/25, 
0xe800/14, 0xe900/23

(II) MGA: driver for Matrox chipsets: mga2064w, mga1064sg, mga2164w,
mga2164w AGP, mgag100, mgag100 PCI, mgag200, mgag200 PCI, mgag400,
mgag550
(II) NVIDIA XFree86 Driver  1.0-4363  Sat Apr 19 17:49:42 PDT 2003
(II) NVIDIA Unified Driver for all NVIDIA GPUs
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 02:00:0
(--) Chipset mgag550 found
(--) Chipset mgag550 found

*blah blah - lots lots lots of messages from the MGA and Nvidia drivers*

Although there's a few snippets:

(EE) MGA(1): Not initializing the DRI on the second head

Doesn't say for the first head though.

(==) MGA(1): Direct rendering disabled

Thanks very much for all your help so far ;)

Cheers - Piers

Aaron W. Hsu wrote:
I am not sure what type of system you are running, but if the card is
supported then you should be able to see if it is compiled into the
kernel.  If it isn't you may need to recompile your kernel with that
support.  It could also be a module, and you could use modconf to
enable it.
That is what I have to do to enable the ATI Rage128 card that I have.
I just get the kernel source, patch, and then compile it with the
support.  You may have to do the same.
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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread moseley
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 02:18:44PM +, Piers Kittel wrote:

> Strange - as I've got 2 graphics cards and 3 monitors, an el cheapo TNT2 
> and the G550.  The desktop "on" the TNT2 shows OpenGL applications just 
> fine, but the desktops "on" the G550 won't show OpenGL applications, 

I've got a G550 with two VGA monitors and I can only show OpenGL 
applications on the primary head.[1]


[1] That's what I remember -- I'm away from that machine right now.


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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello,

Sure.  Make sure that whatever kernel you're using has support built for
it, load the module, and start up X.  Make sure you're loading the dri
module.
Strange - as I've got 2 graphics cards and 3 monitors, an el cheapo TNT2 
and the G550.  The desktop "on" the TNT2 shows OpenGL applications just 
fine, but the desktops "on" the G550 won't show OpenGL applications, 
also that Quake 3 just crashes on the G550, but runs fine on the TNT2.

Thanks very much for your help again

Cheers - Piers

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Re: G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Marc Wilson
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 10:36:15AM +, Piers Kittel wrote:
> Does anyone know how to enable 3D acceleration / Open GL for my Matrox 
> G550 AGP using Debian?

Sure.  Make sure that whatever kernel you're using has support built for
it, load the module, and start up X.  Make sure you're loading the dri
module.

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G550 and 3D acceleration

2003-11-10 Thread Piers Kittel
Hello all

Does anyone know how to enable 3D acceleration / Open GL for my Matrox 
G550 AGP using Debian?

Thanks very much for your help in advance

Cheers - Piers

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Re: 3d acceleration with Radeon mobility

2003-06-20 Thread James Strandboge
On Fri, 2003-06-20 at 14:59, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> Hi, 
> I have a Thinkpad A31, which uses the Radeon mobility graphics chip.  I
> have installed testing, in order to get an X server that works with this
> adapter.  

Is this the radeon 7500?  If so, it works well under xfree86 4.2 (4.1
had problems)-- I don't know if that has hit testing yet.  I believe the
Driver line should be "radeon", not "ati"-- though it shouldn't matter.

I also have:
Section "Module"
...
Load  "GLcore"  # OpenGL support
Load  "dri" # Direct rendering infrastructure
Load  "glx" # OpenGL X protocol interface
...
EndSection
...
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI|Radeon Mobility M6 LY"
Driver "radeon"
BoardName "Unknown"
EndSection
...
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection

I also have the DefaultDepth set for 16 and not 24.  I think that for 3d
you need to be at 16.  (This is my wife's laptop, and frankly I can't
remember all the details).

Hope this helps,

Jamie

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Re: 3d acceleration with Radeon mobility

2003-06-20 Thread Michael Larry Strean
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:59:22AM -0700, Jeremy Brooks wrote:
> Hi, 
> I have a Thinkpad A31, which uses the Radeon mobility graphics chip.  I
> have installed testing, in order to get an X server that works with this
> adapter.  

you'll want a newer radeon driver, I think
you can go to http://www.apt-get.org & search for XFree86 4.3.0

or go to http://dri.sourceforge.net
(this is what I did, I have a R32 w/ a "Radeon Mobility M6 LY",
though I'm not sure if this was the most "Debian" way to do it)
follow the instructions at
http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian


> 
> Kernel is 2.4.20, with CONFIG_DRM=y, CONFIG_DRM_NEW=y,
> CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=y, CONFIG_AGP=y, and CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y. 

(if your not using the radeon driver included w/ the kernel,
you'll want to change "CONFIG_DRM_RADEON" to "n" (& the "CONFIG_DRM"s
too ?)

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3d acceleration with Radeon mobility

2003-06-20 Thread Jeremy Brooks
Hi, 
I have a Thinkpad A31, which uses the Radeon mobility graphics chip.  I
have installed testing, in order to get an X server that works with this
adapter.  

I have googled and searched list archives, and can't think of anything
else to do. 

Kernel is 2.4.20, with CONFIG_DRM=y, CONFIG_DRM_NEW=y,
CONFIG_DRM_RADEON=y, CONFIG_AGP=y, and CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y. 

in XF86Config-4: 
Load "GLcore" 
Load "dri" 

Section "Device" 
  Identifier "Radeon Mobility" 
  VendorName "ATI" 
  Driver "ati" 
  Option "AGPMode" "1" 
EndSection 

(I have tried both "ati" and "radeon" for the Driver; same results.) 

at boot: 
Linux agpgart interface v0.99 (c) Jeff Hartmann 
agpgart: Maximum main memory to use for agp memory: 439M 
agpgart: Detected Intel i845 chipset 
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe000 
[drm] AGP 0.99 on Intel i845 @ 0xe000 64MB 
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.1.1 20010405 on minor 0 

In X log: 

(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled 
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 4208) 
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1408 x 1080 
(II) RADEON(0): X context handle = 0x0001 
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] installed DRM signal handler 
(II) RADEON(0): [DRI] installation complete 
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Added 32 65536 byte vertex/indirect buffers 
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] Mapped 32 vertex/indirect buffers 
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled 

However, gxlinfo | grep render says: 
direct rendering: No 
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa X11 

and glxgears reports frame rates ~200FPS 

Can anyone shed light on this? 

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Re: 3D Acceleration in X not with framebuffer possible?

2002-09-10 Thread nate

Roman Joost said:
> I tried to boot up with the framebuffer and enabling the direct rendering
> features for my ATI after recompiling the kernel. If i compile the
> framebuffer thing into the kernel, boot up with the vga=XXX mode, the
> framebuffer works great. But my system can't find any agp bridge :(

when loading X are you using the driver for your card and NOT the
framebuffer driver? The only limited experience I have with framebuffer
is on SuSE systems.. I had a SuSE 7.3 system a while back dual p2-233
with a Voodoo3 2000. It used framebuffer, and 3D acceleration was available
in X as well, Tuxracer, Tuxkart etc ran at amazing framerates(I was shocked
since it was only a 233mhz cpu), and with good quality, so it had to have
been full acceleration. GLTron and others worked good too.

wish I could help more, but since I don't use framebuffer support on any
of my debian systems(don't need it ..) I'm not sure what SuSE does(if
anything) to make it work(or maybe its the driver).

what card are you using and what kernel? and what driver in X? and
what kernel modules are you loading?

nate






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3D Acceleration in X not with framebuffer possible?

2002-09-10 Thread Roman Joost

I tried to boot up with the framebuffer and enabling the direct rendering
features for my ATI after recompiling the kernel. If i compile the framebuffer
thing into the kernel, boot up with the vga=XXX mode, the framebuffer works
great. But my system can't find any agp bridge :(

If i don't compile framebuffer into the kernel, i don't have the framebuffer
device available, but the system find my agp bridge. 

What is wrong? Is there a possibility to startup with the framebuffer and always
enable the direct rendering??
Allright, i know that the boot-logo thing is a kind of playing around. But looks
nice with my logo *G

Forgive me...

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Re: 3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

2002-06-15 Thread Peter Whysall
On Sat, 2002-06-15 at 18:48, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Christian Banik wrote:
> 
> > i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
> > offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
> > acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
> > / Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 
> 
> Install 'alien' which translates rpm to deb, among other things.

Alternatively, install the relevant debian packages.

I posted on how to do this earlier. Searching the list archive is an
exercise left for the reader.

Regards

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Re: 3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

2002-06-15 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Christian Banik wrote:

> i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
> offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
> acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
> / Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 

Install 'alien' which translates rpm to deb, among other things.

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3D - Acceleration for Nvidia TNT 2 graphic card

2002-06-15 Thread Christian Banik
i'm using SUSE Linux 8.0 but i will install Debian 3.0 final . Nvidia 
offers RPM - Files for my graphic - card TNT 2 to activate the 3D 
acceleration. I've heard that the RPM system is not compatibel with GNU 
/ Debian. What can i do?  Thanks Christian . 



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Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Joel Ståbis
* Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>   for X 4.0.1 you need very recent kernel, either one of the pre 2.4 or
> 2.2.18 (that would be 'pre' as well), the howto for this combination is
> at debianplanet.

Sorry if this mail comes twice, but my last mail didn't seem to reach the list.

Hi.

I have configured X 4.0.1 to use hardware gl on my Voodoo3 as described in the
howto at debianplanet, but there seems to be some kind of problem. 

In windows i get 70fps running a timedemo in q3 normal, but in linux/XFree
4.0.1 I only get ~25 fps. Tthat is much better than using software rendering,
but it isn't at all what I had expected.

I don't know if that is because of my motherboard chipset (via apollo pro 133).
In windows I have some special agp-driver for that chipset.

The system is a P3 733, 128MB, Voodoo3 2000 agp, so 25fps seems very bad.

/ Joel

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Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Joel Ståbis
* Erik Steffl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>   for X 4.0.1 you need very recent kernel, either one of the pre 2.4 or
> 2.2.18 (that would be 'pre' as well), the howto for this combination is
> at debianplanet.

Hi.

I have configured X 4.0.1 to use hardware gl on my Voodoo3 as described in the
howto at debianplanet, but there seems to be some kind of problem. 

In windows i get 70fps running a timedemo in q3 normal, but in linux/XFree
4.0.1 I only get ~25 fps. Tthat is much better than using software rendering,
but it isn't at all what I had expected.

I don't know if that is because of my motherboard chipset (via apollo pro 133).
In windows I have some special agp-driver for that chipset.

The system is a P3 733, 128MB, Voodoo3 2000 agp, so 25fps seems very bad.

/ Joel

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Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Erik Steffl
Gryn wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:36:18AM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> > what kernel and what version of X? if its kernel 2.2 and Xfree 3 i can
> > help ive done countless installations.
> 
> Ah yes, that would have ben prudent to include.  I'm running 2.4.0-test10,
> and XFree86 4.0ish.  (woody)

  go to debianplanet for howto then

erik



Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Gryn
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 10:55:43AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote:
> debianplanet has a more than excellent tutorial on this.
> 

Amazing, that worked (or seems to :) )!  I guess I just picked the wrong
combination of packages.  Thanks!  (And thanks to others who also responded :)
).

Ciao,
-Gryn



Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Gryn
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 08:36:18AM -0800, Nate Amsden wrote:
> what kernel and what version of X? if its kernel 2.2 and Xfree 3 i can
> help ive done countless installations. 

Ah yes, that would have ben prudent to include.  I'm running 2.4.0-test10,
and XFree86 4.0ish.  (woody)

-Gryn



Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Erik Steffl
  for recent kernel (2.2) and X 3.x it's fairly easy, just install
debian packages related to 3dfx and that's it. I don't remember all the
packages but I remember I had no problems identifying them, just search,
you need mesa, probably glide, device3dfx if you want to run 3d
accelerated stuff as non-root, ...

  for X 4.0.1 you need very recent kernel, either one of the pre 2.4 or
2.2.18 (that would be 'pre' as well), the howto for this combination is
at debianplanet.

erik

Gryn wrote:
> 
> Hellos,
> 
>   I'm reading all the documentation I can find, and I'm trying to setup my
> machine to use 3d acceleration with my voodoo 3000.  I'd prefer to use only
> use debian packages, so my question isn't exactly -how- to do this, but rather
> if it's possible! :)
> 
>   I've spent about 10 hours reading and experimenting (and luckly not breaking
> anything a ctrl-alt-del couldn't fix), and I've had little luck.  The best
> I've been able to do is to get the OSMESA library to kick in.  (that is,
> software rendering).  Which is annoying, since that's what I started off with
> :) .
> 
>   Is there a place for debian users to read up on these sorts of specific
> issues or is this list actually the appropriate place to ask?
> 
>   So, now as I go to sleep I'm asking if you can use Debian packages only and
> get hardware acceleration to work.  (p.s. I'm 99% sure I've got the config
> files for X windows correct, it seems that it's getting the correct libraries
> or something similar to kick in that is my problem).
> 
>   Thanks in advance for any help pointers or suggestions.  Hmmm maybe I should
> refrain from these sorts of sessions when I have english finals the next
> day...  na.
> 
> -Gryn
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Re: Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Nate Amsden
Gryn wrote:
> 
> Hellos,
> 
>   I'm reading all the documentation I can find, and I'm trying to setup my
> machine to use 3d acceleration with my voodoo 3000.  I'd prefer to use only
> use debian packages, so my question isn't exactly -how- to do this, but rather
> if it's possible! :)
> 
>   I've spent about 10 hours reading and experimenting (and luckly not breaking
> anything a ctrl-alt-del couldn't fix), and I've had little luck.  The best
> I've been able to do is to get the OSMESA library to kick in.  (that is,
> software rendering).  Which is annoying, since that's what I started off with
> :) .
> 
>   Is there a place for debian users to read up on these sorts of specific
> issues or is this list actually the appropriate place to ask?
> 
>   So, now as I go to sleep I'm asking if you can use Debian packages only and
> get hardware acceleration to work.  (p.s. I'm 99% sure I've got the config
> files for X windows correct, it seems that it's getting the correct libraries
> or something similar to kick in that is my problem).

what kernel and what version of X? if its kernel 2.2 and Xfree 3 i can
help ive done countless installations. 

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Voodoo 3000 3d acceleration -- look ma, no non-debian-packaged files.

2000-12-12 Thread Gryn
Hellos,

  I'm reading all the documentation I can find, and I'm trying to setup my
machine to use 3d acceleration with my voodoo 3000.  I'd prefer to use only
use debian packages, so my question isn't exactly -how- to do this, but rather
if it's possible! :)

  I've spent about 10 hours reading and experimenting (and luckly not breaking
anything a ctrl-alt-del couldn't fix), and I've had little luck.  The best
I've been able to do is to get the OSMESA library to kick in.  (that is,
software rendering).  Which is annoying, since that's what I started off with
:) .

  Is there a place for debian users to read up on these sorts of specific
issues or is this list actually the appropriate place to ask?

  So, now as I go to sleep I'm asking if you can use Debian packages only and
get hardware acceleration to work.  (p.s. I'm 99% sure I've got the config
files for X windows correct, it seems that it's getting the correct libraries
or something similar to kick in that is my problem).

  Thanks in advance for any help pointers or suggestions.  Hmmm maybe I should
refrain from these sorts of sessions when I have english finals the next
day...  na.

-Gryn



3D acceleration for ATI Xpert@Play (Rage Pro chipset)

1999-10-13 Thread Dwayne C . Litzenberger
I have an ATI [EMAIL PROTECTED] AGP video card (which basically has Rage Pro 3d
acceleration), and I'd like to know if there are 3d libraries for it.
XF86_Mach64 works great on it, if that helps.  I'd like to get the Quake 3
demo, but it don't work unless I can get 3d accel working on my box.  Any
suggestions?


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Re: [OT] Matrox G200 3D acceleration

1999-06-14 Thread Martin Bialasinski

>> "PQdA" == Pedro Quaresma de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

PQdA> I have a Matrox Millennium G200 (8Mg) working in my computer,
PQdA> and I have a driver for it "xmatrox_2.2-1_i386.deb".

These are old 2D drivers for X. The SVGA server package found at
ftp.netgod.net (or in unstable) natively supports the Matrox card.

Ciao,
Martin


Re: [OT] Matrox G200 3D acceleration

1999-06-14 Thread Pedro Quaresma de Almeida
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>I heard that there are OpenGL drivers for the Matrox Millennium
>G200 available for Linux, but I've looked on www.matrox.com and
>everywhere else I can think of, and I can't find them anywhere.
>Does anyone know where they are?
>-- 

I have a Matrox Millennium G200 (8Mg) working in my computer, and I
have a driver for it "xmatrox_2.2-1_i386.deb". 

I have followed the steps described by Jameson Burt (message below).
If you want I can mail the driver...

At\'e breve

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To: Sean M Hollingsworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: Matrox Xserver on Debian
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I know a couple people who have installed this card, including myself.
Here is what I did.
1. From http://www.suse.de/XSuSE/XSuSE_E.html, I got the following 
   for my Matrox G200 video card,
xmatrox-2.2-0.i386.rpm
xsuseconfig-981102.tgz
2. I ran
alien xmatrox-2.2-0.i386.rpm
   which created the debian file
xmatrox_2.2-1_i386.deb
   I install this xmatrox_2.2-1_i386.deb file,
  dpkg -i xmatrox_2.2-1_i386.deb

3. I uncompressed and installed
xsuseconfig-981102.tgz
   This has the program xf86config, which will recognize your matrox G200 
   card.  Specifically this tar file has two files,
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config
  /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/Cards
These two files replace those belonging to the xbase package.
4. Backup /etc/X11/XF86Config, then run
  xf86config
4. You probably don't even need to run xf86config.
   If you don't mind using your old resolutions (eg, 1024x768)
   and the old amounts for video memory, 
   then you need only change the first line of Xserver to
  /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_Matrox
This surprised and delighted me that I didn't need to run xf86config
or alter XF86Config when going from an NEC C500 monitor and a 
Number 9 S3V video card to a newer Nokia 445Xpro monitor and
a Matrox G200 video card.
I eventually did run xf86config, though, with no real problems.
This xf86config seemed to know I had 8192 KB memory.


The package xmatrox_2.2-0.i386.rpm has the files
   /usr/X11R6/bin/XFCom_Matrox
   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/doc/README.XFCom_Matrox
   /usr/doc/xmatrox/copyright
   /usr/doc/xmatrox/changelog.Debian
   /usr/doc/xmatrox/buildinfo.Debian
All these are uniquely "matrox" so present no conflicts with other files.

When you upgrade packages with dselect, dselect won't know the location
of xmatrox (for all practical purposes, I removed my created  matrox debian 
package), though it knows you installed it and what its files are.  When you 
eventually do upgrade to a version of debian with
the Matrox G200 driver (maybe in March, 1999?), then you can of course
purge this xmatrox package.

Any upgrade of xbase will replace your two new files from suse.

In the past I could more easily get my video card's driver, 
but once I got the xmatrox package, I found installation much simpler.
For example, I did not need to do an "X --probeonly" to get the clocks.



 
> I am (hopefully) putting a Matrox Millennium G200 AGP in my linux box
> next month.  I know that S.u.S.E has an Xserver for this card, but I can
> only find tarballs and RPMs for it.  I now have two questions:
> 
> 1) Is there a deb of the Matrox Xserver?
> 
> 2) In the event I can't find a deb, would installing the xserver from a
> tarball or an RPM cause any problems with compatibility?  Say with
> updates, other libs, etc...
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Matrox G200 and ATI 3D acceleration

1999-06-14 Thread Jean-Yves F. Barbier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Not at all a joke. I know right where on ATI's website where they say the
> 3D API for the mach64/mach128 cards is propriatery and private. On the
> other hand, I recently received email from ATI's marketing department
> which insinuates that the 'developers' (Xfree and/or OpenGL/Mesa
> developers) have the 'programming information' (3D API documentation)
> 
> Can anyone confirm ATI's opening their 3D implimentation to development?
> 
> --Ian Dalton

I have an ATI Rage Fury (128 GL), and I had several mails with ATI, in the last
one, I asked them WHEN they will transmit all the documentation needed to the
xfree86 staff. They answered me: 'ask the xfree86 team' May be we'll have a
nice new ATI server till the end of the year???
JY
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Re: Matrox G200 and ATI 3D acceleration

1999-06-14 Thread ferret


On Sun, 13 Jun 1999, scratch wrote:

> On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I'm also looking for the G200 drivers. :> Unfortunately, I no longer have
> > my G200 machine, but I hope to be getting it again soon. Now to get OpenGL
> > drivers for my Mach64. ;>
> 
> I presume that last one was a joke. Or isn't it?
> 
> -- nico (i have a mach64 based card :))
> 

Not at all a joke. I know right where on ATI's website where they say the
3D API for the mach64/mach128 cards is propriatery and private. On the
other hand, I recently received email from ATI's marketing department
which insinuates that the 'developers' (Xfree and/or OpenGL/Mesa
developers) have the 'programming information' (3D API documentation)

Can anyone confirm ATI's opening their 3D implimentation to development?

--Ian Dalton


Re: [OT] Matrox G200 3D acceleration

1999-06-13 Thread Colin Marquardt
* Alisdair McDiarmid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I heard that there are OpenGL drivers for the Matrox Millennium
> G200 available for Linux, but I've looked on www.matrox.com and
> everywhere else I can think of, and I can't find them anywhere.
> Does anyone know where they are?

Just two links I bookmarked:
  http://www.nvidia.com/Marketing/Products/Pages.nsf/pages/linuxfaq
  http://www.on.openprojects.net/glx/

HTH,
  Colin

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Re: [OT] Matrox G200 3D acceleration

1999-06-13 Thread scratch
On Sun, 13 Jun 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 
> I'm also looking for the G200 drivers. :> Unfortunately, I no longer have
> my G200 machine, but I hope to be getting it again soon. Now to get OpenGL
> drivers for my Mach64. ;>

I presume that last one was a joke. Or isn't it?

-- nico (i have a mach64 based card :))

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