Re: 486SX33 -- 486DX2-66

1997-05-28 Thread Brian N. Borg
Cyrix does in fact make (or used to) make a 5 volt 486dx2.  I have 
two of them, 66 and 80 mhz.  As a bonus, they have a bonded heat-
sink and do not require a fan.

The SX to DX upgrade will probably be as simple as plug it in 
and turn it on, only if the existing SX is a pin grid array 
package.  If the SX is surface mounted, or socketed but the 
same kind of PLCC chip that can be surface mounted, forget it.

--Brian Borg


JD Thomlinson wrote:
 
 Currently Intel is the only manufacturer selling 5v 486 chips.
 It *should* be a straight drop-in, no jumper changes required.
 
 A *very* old motherboard *could* have a problem supplying enough
 current for the doubled chip. But I haven't seen that happen yet,
 and I've upgraded a number of machines.
 
 There might be a problem with the motherboard going from SX to DX,
 depending on the chipset on the motherboard. But, again, unlikely.
 For the $40 these chips are going for it's worth trying.
 
 Cyrix and AMD make 486DX2s but they are 3 volt. This would require
 changing motherboard jumpers, if your motherboard supports 3v chips.
 
 Either way, if you're going to max out an old box you might want to
 do it reasonably soon; 486 pinout chips and 30 pin SIMMs will soon
 be history.
 
 Best regards, JohnT



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Re: 486SX33 -- 486DX2-66 why not -- 486DX4-100?

1997-05-28 Thread E.L. Meijer \(Eric\)
[About upgrading a 486SX-33 chip.]

I wonder, did the original poster consider a 486DX4-100?  If you are
going to spend some money, this would definitely be a more noticeable
change.  Intel has (used to have?) 5V 486DX4-100 chips that can without
modification be plugged in any old motherboard that can support a 5V
486DX-33.  You might have to change a jumper if your previous chip was
a 486SX-33.

Eric

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Re: 486SX33 -- 486DX2 66 ??

1997-05-26 Thread Tim O'Brien
At 08:42 PM 5/24/97 -0400, you wrote:
Hi,
I have here a 486sx33 and i would like to know if i can change the cpu for
a dx2 66 ... In the specification of the board, i seen that a 486 sx2 66

A 486SX/33 and a DX2/66 are both 5 volt chips, so that's probably ok. Just
be sure to check your motherboard manual for jumper settings, since there
will probably be differces between the two processors' settings. 

Good luck! 
Tim 
 

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Re: 486SX33 -- 486DX2-66

1997-05-26 Thread JD Thomlinson
Currently Intel is the only manufacturer selling 5v 486 chips. 
It *should* be a straight drop-in, no jumper changes required.

A *very* old motherboard *could* have a problem supplying enough 
current for the doubled chip. But I haven't seen that happen yet, 
and I've upgraded a number of machines.

There might be a problem with the motherboard going from SX to DX, 
depending on the chipset on the motherboard. But, again, unlikely. 
For the $40 these chips are going for it's worth trying.

Cyrix and AMD make 486DX2s but they are 3 volt. This would require 
changing motherboard jumpers, if your motherboard supports 3v chips.

Either way, if you're going to max out an old box you might want to 
do it reasonably soon; 486 pinout chips and 30 pin SIMMs will soon 
be history.

Best regards, JohnT

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machines which had never been finished were 
abandoned in the hands of their makers, because 
new improvements had superceded their utility. 

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486SX33 -- 486DX2 66 ??

1997-05-25 Thread Dany Dionne
Hi,
I have here a 486sx33 and i would like to know if i can change the cpu for
a dx2 66 ... In the specification of the board, i seen that a 486 sx2 66
is supported. A mathematics coprocessor is also supported.
Thanks in advance for your help ;)
Dany Dionne


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