Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On 02/03/11 11:59, Chris Jones wrote: On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 04:10:01AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 28 feb 11, 22:47:17, Chris Jones wrote: So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? too bad.. she's not subscribed to D-OT .. and given the circumstances and our disagreement.. no way she's going to go through all the trouble of subscribing.. That shouldn't be a problem, the list is setup as close as possible[1] to debian-user: posting open, no reply-to munging, etc. so all you would need to do to move a discussion is reply-to-all and replace d-u with d-OT. Well, I did just that about two hours ago.. hit ‘g’ reply-to-group, which is the closest to reply-all I could find.. and changed d-u to d-ot.. and all I got was something in my inbox to the effect that my message was undeliverable.. So depending on your mailer, I'm skeptical things are that simple. In any case.. even if the above had worked.. it would only have posted my particular post to d-OT.. what about the previous OT messages that were initially posted to D-U and would be essential :-) to anyone catching up understanding what I am talking about..? And how does it guarantee that whoever takes a fancy to the OT thread while reading debian-user would post to debian-OT.. rather than follow the simplest course of action and post to debian-user..? cj /cloak(sigh) Which I guess means we'll have to rely upon the good nature and judgement of others to preface their subject lines with [OT] when they want to chat about my favourite desktop distro and yet another survey. At least then I/we can use filters to move those posts (and any containing the word Ubuntu) to another mail folder. I know - those poster do use debian, or kind-of, but at least that would/will allow those that subscribe to read about the use of debian more signal-noise. It also makes searching personal archives of debian-user for answers more relevant. cloak Cheers --- Don't confuse lack of enthusiasm for an OT list for enthusiastic support of OT posts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6e1243.7060...@gmail.com
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Ma, 01 mar 11, 19:59:25, Chris Jones wrote: That shouldn't be a problem, the list is setup as close as possible[1] to debian-user: posting open, no reply-to munging, etc. so all you would need to do to move a discussion is reply-to-all and replace d-u with d-OT. Well, I did just that about two hours ago.. hit ‘g’ reply-to-group, which is the closest to reply-all I could find.. and changed d-u to d-ot.. and all I got was something in my inbox to the effect that my message was undeliverable.. So depending on your mailer, I'm skeptical things are that simple. My cristal ball says you have a mutt alias or hook that fills in the correct address for you (or something like that), but it doesn't work for d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org (don't forget the 'alioth' part). In any case.. even if the above had worked.. it would only have posted my particular post to d-OT.. what about the previous OT messages that were initially posted to D-U and would be essential :-) to anyone catching up understanding what I am talking about..? And how does it guarantee that whoever takes a fancy to the OT thread while reading debian-user would post to debian-OT.. rather than follow the simplest course of action and post to debian-user..? And to my initial instructions, you might want to leave d-u in for the *first* post[1], so that people from d-u who are interested know that the discussion was moved[2]. [1] please do set Reply-To: and/or Mail-Followup-to: to d-community-offtopic@l.a.d.o in such cases [2] one can argue that this is not necessary or even harmful for d-u, since people interested in OT discussions would already be subscribed to d-OT, but on the other hand it might help to point out to other posters in the thread to stop posting to d-u in other sub-threads. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 06:48:47AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Ma, 01 mar 11, 19:59:25, Chris Jones wrote: That shouldn't be a problem, the list is setup as close as possible[1] to debian-user: posting open, no reply-to munging, etc. so all you would need to do to move a discussion is reply-to-all and replace d-u with d-OT. Well, I did just that about two hours ago.. hit ‘g’ reply-to-group, which is the closest to reply-all I could find.. and changed d-u to d-ot.. and all I got was something in my inbox to the effect that my message was undeliverable.. So depending on your mailer, I'm skeptical things are that simple. My cristal ball says you have a mutt alias or hook that fills in the correct address for you (or something like that), but it doesn't work for d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org (don't forget the 'alioth' part). I know that Andrei.. and I know how to fix it and make it work.. but do many people even bother adding [OT] to the subject.. or even as I usually do myself, have the sense to drop the issue when they feel they have abused the less tolerant subscribers' patience enough already..? In any case.. even if the above had worked.. it would only have posted my particular post to d-OT.. what about the previous OT messages that were initially posted to D-U and would be essential :-) to anyone catching up understanding what I am talking about..? And how does it guarantee that whoever takes a fancy to the OT thread while reading debian-user would post to debian-OT.. rather than follow the simplest course of action and post to debian-user..? And to my initial instructions, you might want to leave d-u in for the *first* post[1], so that people from d-u who are interested know that the discussion was moved[2]. I don't know.. in most cases, you might as well move the conversation off-list.. and use reply-to-all if there are more than one other party involved.. Are OT threads of such interest that they should remain public so others get a chance to join in..? Are they worth archiving in a public repos for posterity? [1] please do set Reply-To: and/or Mail-Followup-to: to d-community-offtopic@l.a.d.o in such cases [2] one can argue that this is not necessary or even harmful for d-u, since people interested in OT discussions would already be subscribed to d-OT, but on the other hand it might help to point out to other posters in the thread to stop posting to d-u in other sub-threads. I guess I'll have to give it a try... a bit more seriously this time. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302123435.GB8749@pavo.local
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:34:35 -0500 Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com wrote: Are OT threads of such interest that they should remain public so others get a chance to join in..? Are they worth archiving in a public repos for posterity? Sometimes. Google has occasionally found me an answer in a casual off-hand remark in the middle of something that was otherwise OT for its group. Sometimes a somewhat trollish rant can be terminated by a terse reply suggesting some obscure two-letter command, which then gets followed up by a couple of posts of thanks from other people for telling them something they hadn't known about after X years in *nix. But not often. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302131612.35bef...@jresid.jretrading.com
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On 1 March 2011 13:47, Chris Jones cjns1...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:34:04AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] snip So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? snip Once you get agreement on something, it marks the end of the squabble. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion.
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Lu, 28 feb 11, 22:47:17, Chris Jones wrote: So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? too bad.. she's not subscribed to D-OT .. and given the circumstances and our disagreement.. no way she's going to go through all the trouble of subscribing.. That shouldn't be a problem, the list is setup as close as possible[1] to debian-user: posting open, no reply-to munging, etc. so all you would need to do to move a discussion is reply-to-all and replace d-u with d-OT. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Tue, Mar 01, 2011 at 04:10:01AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: On Lu, 28 feb 11, 22:47:17, Chris Jones wrote: So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? too bad.. she's not subscribed to D-OT .. and given the circumstances and our disagreement.. no way she's going to go through all the trouble of subscribing.. That shouldn't be a problem, the list is setup as close as possible[1] to debian-user: posting open, no reply-to munging, etc. so all you would need to do to move a discussion is reply-to-all and replace d-u with d-OT. Well, I did just that about two hours ago.. hit ‘g’ reply-to-group, which is the closest to reply-all I could find.. and changed d-u to d-ot.. and all I got was something in my inbox to the effect that my message was undeliverable.. So depending on your mailer, I'm skeptical things are that simple. In any case.. even if the above had worked.. it would only have posted my particular post to d-OT.. what about the previous OT messages that were initially posted to D-U and would be essential :-) to anyone catching up understanding what I am talking about..? And how does it guarantee that whoever takes a fancy to the OT thread while reading debian-user would post to debian-OT.. rather than follow the simplest course of action and post to debian-user..? cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110302005925.GI4119@pavo.local
A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
[Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei Well I like the idea of this list, and it would be nice to see more activity. I'm not exactly sure why the list would need to be killed. Running out of space? lol. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110228111319.42fb7675@t61.debian-linux
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
Op Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com schreef: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei I would like to see an offtopic list as long as it's main purpose isn't: this is where all garbage ends. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110228174119.0e0b3...@squeeze.telenet.be
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 17:34, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei I'll subscribe. I see that the OOo and Ubuntu offtopic lists are a good way to keep real thread _on_ topic. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktik2yk8mye3eobvcmdhsnpu_paw-8ex+gv2we...@mail.gmail.com
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
Hi, In short, seeing what has been posted over the past 12 months, I can't see the point in having the list, sorry. There are so many emails, forums, etc there isn't enough hours for me to consume any more time. There is plenty of noise on some of the lists that I already subscribe, such noise can be interesting, but most of the time, it is something else to read and/or discard. There's plenty of information overload on tap already! -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6be532.1000...@affinityvision.com.au
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] (removing off-topic just in case because I'm not subscribed) [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] (reading...) Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. First, congrats for the way you acted. I think I'd also have done it that way. Second, I also find useful such lists, many people here shares a good and long-term virtual relationship and like talking about off-topic questions (and also getting feedback for those matters) so that kind of lists can have its uses for Debian users. And third, thanks for jumping into this mailing list. I'm sure many of us weren't aware of the existence of d-community-offtopic and now can be interested in subscribing. But mailing lists also die... for multiple reasons (people is not interested in posting anymore on those topics, they have no time to post or went elsewhere -I mean, they installed another distribution- and then losing contact with the old buddies). You said you are thinking in removing the mailing list and I wonder... why don't just let it die instead having a deadline? If nobody posts, well, you can remove at any time, and since it is not resource demanding (nor for storage nor bandwidth) it will not hurt to keep it a bit more. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.02.28.19.01...@gmail.com
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On 1 March 2011 01:34, Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Off topic subjects still seem to thrive on debian-user anyway. And a separate list may have seemed necessary in the days when d-u was *really* busy, but that doesn't seem to be the case at the moment. I see other lists that aren't employed to their potential also, e.g., posts with reference to firewalls that should (for reference sake) be posted on debian-firewall. If that policy was more strictly adhered to, it would lower the stress on d-u in times of high usage. I know it's a hassle to subscribe to another list just to post on a particular subject, but it would be at least as big a problem referencing half a dozen lists for the answer to a question, when the archive is kept for that reason in the first place. I feel that policy should be established and enforced by the users to achieve an orderly, efficient archive. Regards, Weaver. -- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. — Lucius Annæus Seneca. Terrorism, the new religion.
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On 02/28/2011 11:13 AM, Slicky Johnson wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0200 Andrei Popescuandreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei Well I like the idea of this list, and it would be nice to see more activity. I'm not exactly sure why the list would need to be killed. Running out of space? lol. Nobody uses OT mailing lists. If they want to just sound off, there are social sites that cater to those people. Twitter, etc. If you kill it, virtually no-one will miss it. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d6c0742.8050...@optonline.net
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Monday 28 February 2011 19:10:58 Andrew McGlashan wrote: Hi, In short, seeing what has been posted over the past 12 months, I can't see the point in having the list, sorry. There are so many emails, forums, etc there isn't enough hours for me to consume any more time. There is plenty of noise on some of the lists that I already subscribe, such noise can be interesting, but most of the time, it is something else to read and/or discard. There's plenty of information overload on tap already! Sounds like you don’t want to keep it for some reasons (certainty good enough for you). So, go ahead and kill it.If some people miss it so much, they can restart one on their own. Never went to your list, but thank you the same for trying. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201102282155.12688.tchate...@free.fr
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, 28 Feb 2011 17:34:04 +0200 Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Regards, Andrei I sincerely like the idea. Like minded individuals all sharing a common base, debian would make for interesting conversations. Convincing others to take their beefs with Apple/Microsoft among other zealot-oriented discussion to this list is another matter all together. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110228132823.64dfb...@ws82.int.tlc
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:34:04AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: [Cross-posted to: d-community-offtopic, debian-user] [For those who don't know what I'm talking about, please see #425439 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=425439] Hi, Being the stubborn person that I am, I want to give one more chance to the -offtopic list for Debian users and/or developers. Thanks to Holger Levsen, the list is currently hosted on lists.alioth.debian.org by the Debian Community project and has some 30+ subscribers. However, activity is zero (not counting the occasional spam). Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Still haunts me.. I shouldn't have done, but I bit.. and I got involved in yet another OT squabble. Being a proud responsible D-U citizen I'm embarrassed .. deep down, I know I should have ignored the idiot.. but it's too late now.. I can't just let go... I have to stick to my guns and reply to the obnoxious poster who so ridiculed my previous valuable contribution.. But wait.. maybe I could carry this over to D-OT, what..? So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? too bad.. she's not subscribed to D-OT .. and given the circumstances and our disagreement.. no way she's going to go through all the trouble of subscribing.. Otherwise.. maybe I could use the scripting capabilities of my mutt to forward the entire thread to debian-off-topic and post some kind of form? telling her that I'd be delighted to continue discussing.. and if she is agreeable, she only needs to click on the proverbial ‘here’ at the bottom of the form to be almost automatically subscribed to D-OT, so we can ‘legally’ carry on with our jousting.. and in so doing.. stop bothering the less tolerant technically-minded subscribers of D-U.. ?? Nobody is going to _start_ a thread on ‘debian-OT’ .. I mean OT.. sure.. but relative to what..? and there does not seem to be a simple mechanism where one could migrate a flourishing OT sub-thread from D-Uto D-OT.. Makes sense there is ~= None activity on D-OT.. cj -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110301034717.GC4119@pavo.local
Re: A Debian -offtopic mailing list: to be or not to be
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:47:17PM -0500, Chris Jones wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 10:34:04AM EST, Andrei Popescu wrote: . . . Interestingly, the OT threads on debian-user also went down a lot since a few years, for reasons unknown to me. So, unless something happens on the list (apart from this thread and the spam) I intend to remove/delete the list within a month. Still haunts me.. I shouldn't have done, but I bit.. and I got involved in yet another OT squabble. Being a proud responsible D-U citizen I'm embarrassed .. deep down, I know I should have ignored the idiot.. but it's too late now.. I can't just let go... I have to stick to my guns and reply to the obnoxious poster who so ridiculed my previous valuable contribution.. But wait.. maybe I could carry this over to D-OT, what..? So what do I do..? recommend we continue our heated discussion on the OT mailing list..? too bad.. she's not subscribed to D-OT .. and given the circumstances and our disagreement.. no way she's going to go through all the trouble of subscribing.. Otherwise.. maybe I could use the scripting capabilities of my mutt to forward the entire thread to debian-off-topic and post some kind of form? telling her that I'd be delighted to continue discussing.. and if she is agreeable, she only needs to click on the proverbial ‘here’ at the bottom of the form to be almost automatically subscribed to D-OT, so we can ‘legally’ carry on with our jousting.. and in so doing.. stop bothering the less tolerant technically-minded subscribers of D-U.. ?? Nobody is going to _start_ a thread on ‘debian-OT’ .. I mean OT.. sure.. but relative to what..? and there does not seem to be a simple mechanism where one could migrate a flourishing OT sub-thread from D-Uto D-OT.. Makes sense there is ~= None activity on D-OT.. I like the O-T list idea. More list definition means more mixing and match the flavor of each mailbox. Far more convenient than slogging through an everything list. These lists are a starting point for 55% of my learning. I don't see why others shouldn't be particular about them too. Debian-OT should get more promo on the big high-traffic Debian lists. The problem is getting readership so posters are attracted, or is it vice versa? I like the idea of automated cross-posting Subjects: containg [OT], and like ramifications, to debian-offtopic for a while. Additionally, maybe a separate debian-user-for-ubuntu-users list?! -- Regards, Freeman Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is the answer. --Somebody -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110301051409.GA3231@Deneb.office
