Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:43:51 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400 > German wrote: > > > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a > > > > > > > while I got banned for no obvious reason. So I have > > > > > > > decided to create another account with a free proxy, > > > > > > > cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > > > > > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I > > > > > > > successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > > > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The > > > > > > > message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any > > > > > > > ideas what can be done in this situation so I can post? > > > > > > > Thank so much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't > > > > > > allow postings from it. > > > > > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP > > > > > *and* the message board checks it too. > > > > > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that > > > > be that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the > > > > whole linux system is subject to filtering? > > > > > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling > > > everyone interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of > > > User-Agent string. And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your > > > own PC) regardless of the browser you're using. > > > > > > Reco > > > > > > > > > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? > > You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along. > > apt-get install privoxy -y > > x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html > > Run first command as root, the second as a normal user. > > Reco > > No, I am not joking and thank you. I am not as linux computer savvy as you. I think I'll try your suggestion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604175854.77695...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:49:41 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote: > > Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy > > Then don't discuss it here. > > People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying. You have > presumably been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you. > > Lisi > > do not tell me everyone on the list. You have no information to be based on. And there are people on THIS list who are trying to help me to solve my problem. And of course there will be people like you who know this all -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604175711.1a790...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thursday 04 June 2015 22:33:41 German wrote: > Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy Then don't discuss it here. People who bypass email blacklistings are very annoying. You have presumably been blacklisted because the list doesn't want you. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506042249.41837.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 17:36:01 -0400 German wrote: > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I > > > > > > got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create > > > > > > another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and > > > > > > continue to do some conversations with a members with which I > > > > > > have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web > > > > > > proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. > > > > > > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas > > > > > > what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so > > > > > > much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > > > postings from it. > > > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* > > > > the message board checks it too. > > > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone > > interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. > > And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of > > the browser you're using. > > > > Reco > > > > > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? You're joking, right? Ok, I'll play along. apt-get install privoxy -y x-www-browser /usr/share/doc/privoxy/index.html Run first command as root, the second as a normal user. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150605004351.d975fadbf01722ca5fb37...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Fri, 5 Jun 2015 00:05:57 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400 > German wrote: > > > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I > > > > > got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create > > > > > another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and > > > > > continue to do some conversations with a members with which I > > > > > have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web > > > > > proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. > > > > > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I > > > > > believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas > > > > > what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so > > > > > much for all of your insights. > > > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > > postings from it. > > > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* > > > the message board checks it too. > > > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone > interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. > And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of > the browser you're using. > > Reco > > Oh thanks, that's something. What's this privoxy is? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173601.41f8d...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:51:08 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found > > list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still > > have the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know > > this proxy address, it is not free web based address. > > If you can find that list so can they. I still doubt it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173645.677f7...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:53:20 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole > > linux system is subject to filtering? > > Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it. Sorry, but this is a private information. That breaks my privacy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604173341.724ed...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:37:12 -0400 German wrote: > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > > insights. > > > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > > postings from it. > > > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the > > message board checks it too. > > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that > my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux > system is subject to filtering? It's possible. Every time you use a browser you're telling everyone interested that you're using Linux. It's a part of User-Agent string. And it's easy to change (using privoxy on your own PC) regardless of the browser you're using. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150605000557.149cbd4e81f7e92d02af0...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be > that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux > system is subject to filtering? Tell us what this forum is so that we can try it. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87sia7qjpb@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found > list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have > the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy > address, it is not free web based address. If you can find that list so can they. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87wpzjqjsz@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thursday 04 June 2015 20:34:19 German wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100 > > Brian wrote: > > On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > > > A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. > > Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private > > life? > > That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also > conscious about security matters. But we are not talking about security. We are talking about how you can bypass having been blacklisted. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201506042138.02363.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 22:12:44 +0300 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > insights. > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > postings from it. > > Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny > X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the > message board checks it too. I still think that it is nothing to do with proxies. Might that be that my computer name is filtered or as I said earlier the whole linux system is subject to filtering? > > Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used > to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless. > > The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not > control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if > they don't charge you. > > Reco > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604153712.4787c...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 20:02:34 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. > Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private > life? > > That is because I use Debian and I think people who use linux is also conscious about security matters. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604153419.35669...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
Hi. On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > > your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. Or it's possible that the proxy in question sends that funny X-Forwarded-For HTTP header which contains the original IP *and* the message board checks it too. Or the proxy intercepted forum's login credentials so they can be used to spam the message board in question. The possibilities are endless. The fine point of the story - don't trust the proxy *you* do not control. Even if they don't charge you for using it. Especially if they don't charge you. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604221244.c6c792b35ba3ec94c78fa...@gmail.com
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu 04 Jun 2015 at 13:21:09 -0400, German wrote: > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > your insights. A *little* off-topic for Debian? This has nothing to do with the OS. Why should we be interested or involved in sorting out your private life? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604190234.ge24...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:36:24 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 > Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I > > > got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the > > > server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in > > > this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your > > > insights. > > > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > > postings from it. > > > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. > > Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ? > > Cheers, > > Ron. Right, but already tried to post through proxy. And now I have found list of IP proxy which can be configured through browser. I still have the same message that I can't post. I doubt that they know this proxy address, it is not free web based address. I think that maybe blacklisted Debian. LOL -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604142022.4189e...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > > your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. Or they might have black-listed the IP address you post from ? Cheers, Ron. -- What which we call knowledge is ignorance surrounded by laughter. -- Charles Hoy Fort -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604133624.3eea9...@ron.cerrocora.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On 04/06/15 18:34, German wrote: Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? People maintain lists of known proxy servers, and some proxy server software probably has a detectable "fingerprint". And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? Tor is a (quite famous - it even gets mentioned in the newspapers from time to time!) distributed anonymizer project. Its official site is easily found via the Internet search engine of your choice. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/557091e2.50...@zen.co.uk
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 12:51:49 -0500 John Hasler wrote: > German writes: > > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? > > There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies. > > > And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? > > apt-cache show tor Ok, thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604135424.6ffc7...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? There are published lists of the IPs of known proxies. > And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? apt-cache show tor -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/876173s6oa@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
German writes: > The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe > that the server can identify me somehow. It isn't identifying you. It is identifying the proxy. It is quite common to block proxies since trolls and spammers use them frequently. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/87a8wfs720@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 04 Jun 2015 19:29:43 +0200 Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got > > banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another > > account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do > > some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed > > talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could > > logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got > > was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server > > can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this > > situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. > > It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow > postings from it. > > You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. > Ok, how is that possible to detect the proxy? And Tor is some sort of software you can use from linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604133451.2ac71...@asterius.asterius.net
Re: A little of topic: security and anonymity question
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 13:21 -0400, German wrote: > I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned > for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with > a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations > with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully > created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the > message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. > So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what > can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of > your insights. It's not impossible that they detected the proxy and won't allow postings from it. You might try Tor, but that might be blocked too. -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP Key ID 6FAB5CD5 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
A little of topic: security and anonymity question
I had some discussion on some message board. After a while I got banned for no obvious reason. So I have decided to create another account with a free proxy, cleaned my cookies and continue to do some conversations with a members with which I have enjoyed talking. I successfully created account with web proxy, could logging in, but can't post on the message board. The message I got was that I am not permitted to post. So, I believe that the server can identify me somehow. Any ideas what can be done in this situation so I can post? Thank so much for all of your insights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20150604132109.15032...@asterius.asterius.net
