Re: ALSA setup problem
Jules Dubois wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:00:20 -0400, Kenneth Jacker wrote: [sarge/kernel-2.4.26-1-686. I am in the audio group.] I'm going to jump in here since I, too, can't get ALSA to work correctly with my board (SB Live!). I was never able to get ALSA to work with my (new) SB Live under kernel 2.4.26. When I installed kernel 2.6.7, it started working, although in the last few days, the emu10k1 module stopped loading automatically. Here are some relevant installed modules: snd-bt87x 5704 0 snd-pcm-oss39464 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm61124 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14532 0 [snd-pcm] snd-page-alloc 6392 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm] snd33508 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 8 [bttv snd emu10k1 sound] The emu10k1 module isn't loaded. Can you load it by hand using modprobe? You should *not* load the emu10k1 module (that's OSS, not ALSA) - instead, you need the snd_emu10k1 module (notice ALSA modules have the snd_ prefix) HTH, Joris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
jh You should *not* load the emu10k1 module (that's OSS, not ALSA) jh - instead, you need the snd_emu10k1 module (notice ALSA modules jh have the snd_ prefix) Thanks to Chris, Joris and others, I have succeeded in getting ALSA working on my 'sarge' system! The main problem was using the OSS modules instead of the ASLA ones. Thanks again ... -Kenneth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:12:44 -0600 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get sound working under Sarge using ALSA. I'm confident that my cables, speakers, etc. are working because I get sound from Knoppix. I've found some instructions at the alsa web site which seem to include consideration of details specific to Debian. My sound card is CM8738. My kernel-image is 2.4.26-1-686. I have installed the alsa-modules-2.4.26-1-686. I have run alsaconf, and it found my sound card and seemed to configure it. Much of what is in the instructions from alsa web site seem already to have been done by debian install scripts. But, I tried reexecuting update-modules even though all the recommended lines were already in /etc/modutils/ and I got: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o This looks bad to me. Is it? What do I do about it? It's only bad if you need that module. For a CM8738, I wouldn't think you do. So I think you're OK. Getting soundcards to work under ALSA is *usually* a three-step process: 1. does the kernel see the soundcard OK (what does lspci -vv say about the soundcard)? 2. do you have the right modules installed (what does lsmod say)? 3. have you unmuted everything you need to in alsamixer (are Master, PCM, and CD unmuted), and are the relevant sliders (Master, PCM, CD and Wave) turned up to reasonable values? You haven't given us enough information yet. -c -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgpIjX8TL8lW7.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ALSA setup problem
cmetzler Getting soundcards to work under ALSA is *usually* a cmetzler three-step process: 1. does the kernel see the soundcard cmetzler OK (what does lspci -vv say about the soundcard)? 2. do cmetzler you have the right modules installed (what does lsmod cmetzler say)? 3. have you unmuted everything you need to in cmetzler alsamixer (are Master, PCM, and CD unmuted), and are the cmetzler relevant sliders (Master, PCM, CD and Wave) turned up to cmetzler reasonable values? You haven't given us enough cmetzler information yet. [sarge/kernel-2.4.26-1-686. I am in the audio group.] I'm going to jump in here since I, too, can't get ALSA to work correctly with my board (SB Live!). The first two steps above are OK. [BTW, all works fine under a non-ALSA RH9.] When I run 'alsaconf', it shows, emu10k1 Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a) in the dialog which I select and configure. My radio/TV card does *not* show up. When I run 'alsamixer', it *only* shows my Brooktree Bt878 card (radio, TV). The Bt878 mixer controls do nothing. More importantly, I can't get what I'd call the general mixer controls to show up (e.g., Master, PCM, etc). 'Kmix' seg faults! I tried alsamixer -c 1, and it returned: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for hw:1: No such device Here are some relevant installed modules: snd-bt87x 5704 0 snd-pcm-oss39464 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm61124 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14532 0 [snd-pcm] snd-page-alloc 6392 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm] snd33508 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 8 [bttv snd emu10k1 sound] Thanks for any help! -- Prof Kenneth H Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science Dept www.cs.appstate.edu/~khj Appalachian State Univ Boone, NC 28608 USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:35:14AM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:12:44 -0600 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get sound working under Sarge using ALSA. I'm confident that my cables, speakers, etc. are working because I get sound from Knoppix. I've found some instructions at the alsa web site which seem to include consideration of details specific to Debian. My sound card is CM8738. My kernel-image is 2.4.26-1-686. I have installed the alsa-modules-2.4.26-1-686. I have run alsaconf, and it found my sound card and seemed to configure it. Much of what is in the instructions from alsa web site seem already to have been done by debian install scripts. But, I tried reexecuting update-modules even though all the recommended lines were already in /etc/modutils/ and I got: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o This looks bad to me. Is it? What do I do about it? It's only bad if you need that module. For a CM8738, I wouldn't think you do. So I think you're OK. Getting soundcards to work under ALSA is *usually* a three-step process: 1. does the kernel see the soundcard OK (what does lspci -vv say about the soundcard)? 2. do you have the right modules installed (what does lsmod say)? 3. have you unmuted everything you need to in alsamixer (are Master, PCM, and CD unmuted), and are the relevant sliders (Master, PCM, CD and Wave) turned up to reasonable values? You haven't given us enough information yet. Your questions are very helpful. I'll get back with more info. soon. Thanks. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
On 02 Aug 2004 13:00:20 -0400 Kenneth Jacker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are some relevant installed modules: snd-bt87x 5704 0 snd-pcm-oss39464 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm61124 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14532 0 [snd-pcm] snd-page-alloc 6392 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm] snd33508 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] The alsa modules for your SB Live aren't listed here; no wonder it isn't working . . . soundcore 3940 8 [bttv snd emu10k1 sound] . . .while soundcore, listing the modules that depend on it, lists emu10k1 and sound, which are OSS modules rather than ALSA modules. If you showed the full output from lsmod, would we see emu10k1 there? You can't have both OSS and ALSA modules for the card loaded at the same time. My suspicion is that you're using either discover or hotplug (or both), and that it/they run in the boot process before the ALSA scripts do. discover/hotplug is loading the OSS modules for your soundcard because you forgot to blacklist them. Then along comes ALSA, which is unable to load snd-emu10k1 etc. Here's what an lsmod for a machine with the SBLive correctly installed ought to look like: stax:~-508 lsmod | sort Module Size Used byTainted: P [ stuff snipped ] snd34244 1 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer snd-hwdep snd-util-mem snd-ac97-codec snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] snd-ac97-codec 55164 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-emu10k176328 2 snd-hwdep 5216 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-mixer-oss 13560 1 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-page-alloc 6328 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm] snd-pcm61668 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm-oss38216 0 snd-rawmidi14208 0 [snd-emu10k1] snd-seq-device 4224 0 [snd-emu10k1 snd-rawmidi] snd-timer 15588 0 [snd-pcm] snd-util-mem1280 0 [snd-emu10k1] -c P.S. You might want to fix your mail client. Email to the list from you is coming out with a Reply-To: header of [EMAIL PROTECTED], forcing those replying to you to edit it manually (provided they even catch it). -- Chris Metzler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (remove snip-me. to email) As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized. - Chief Luther Standing Bear pgpBhfQUi6g8i.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ALSA setup problem
On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 13:00:20 -0400, Kenneth Jacker wrote: [sarge/kernel-2.4.26-1-686. I am in the audio group.] I'm going to jump in here since I, too, can't get ALSA to work correctly with my board (SB Live!). I was never able to get ALSA to work with my (new) SB Live under kernel 2.4.26. When I installed kernel 2.6.7, it started working, although in the last few days, the emu10k1 module stopped loading automatically. Here are some relevant installed modules: snd-bt87x 5704 0 snd-pcm-oss39464 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm61124 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss] snd-timer 14532 0 [snd-pcm] snd-page-alloc 6392 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm] snd33508 0 [snd-bt87x snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-timer] soundcore 3940 8 [bttv snd emu10k1 sound] The emu10k1 module isn't loaded. Can you load it by hand using modprobe? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
On Mon, Aug 02, 2004 at 09:35:14AM -0400, Chris Metzler wrote: On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 12:12:44 -0600 Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm trying to get sound working under Sarge using ALSA. I'm confident that my cables, speakers, etc. are working because I get sound from Knoppix. I've found some instructions at the alsa web site which seem to include consideration of details specific to Debian. My sound card is CM8738. My kernel-image is 2.4.26-1-686. I have installed the alsa-modules-2.4.26-1-686. I have run alsaconf, and it found my sound card and seemed to configure it. Much of what is in the instructions from alsa web site seem already to have been done by debian install scripts. But, I tried reexecuting update-modules even though all the recommended lines were already in /etc/modutils/ and I got: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o This looks bad to me. Is it? What do I do about it? It's only bad if you need that module. For a CM8738, I wouldn't think you do. So I think you're OK. Getting soundcards to work under ALSA is *usually* a three-step process: 1. does the kernel see the soundcard OK (what does lspci -vv say about the soundcard)? :00:13.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) Subsystem: C-Media Electronics Inc CMI8738/C3DX PCI Audio Device Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium TAbort- TAbort- MAbort- SERR- PERR- Latency: 32 (500ns min, 6000ns max) Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10 Region 0: I/O ports at ec00 [size=256] Capabilities: available only to root 2. do you have the right modules installed (what does lsmod say)? (output of lsmod | grep snd ) snd-cmipci 19044 0 snd-pcm-oss39464 0 (unused) snd-mixer-oss 13848 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-pcm61124 0 [snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss] snd-page-alloc 6392 0 [snd-pcm] snd-opl3-lib6596 0 [snd-cmipci] snd-hwdep 5248 0 [snd-opl3-lib] snd-timer 14532 0 [snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib] gameport1676 0 [snd-cmipci] snd-mpu401-uart 3504 0 [snd-cmipci] snd-rawmidi13504 0 [snd-mpu401-uart] snd-seq-device 4160 0 [snd-opl3-lib snd-rawmidi] snd33508 0 [snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device] soundcore 3940 4 [snd] 3. have you unmuted everything you need to in alsamixer (are Master, PCM, and CD unmuted), and are the relevant sliders (Master, PCM, CD and Wave) turned up to reasonable values? You haven't given us enough information yet. Using alsamixer I have unmuted all channels and put all volume controls at maximum. But alsamixer does not have a 'Wave' channel. Using alsaplayer I load and play an mp3 file of some music. I see the timer ticking off seconds on alsaplayer display, but there is no sound. Is there some overall mute control somewhere else? Do I need to have something special in /dev ? Should I start alsaplayer or alsamixer first? Or does it matter? Also, alsoconf did find my sound card and it confirms that it uses cm8738. Below is a copy of /etc/modutils/alsa-base above snd-pcm snd-pcm-oss # --- BEGIN: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- # --- ALSACONF verion 1.0.5 --- alias char-major-116 snd alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss options snd device_mode=0660 alias snd-card-0 snd-cmipci alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci # --- END: Generated by ALSACONF, do not edit. --- I renamed alsa-base (above) and redid alsaconf. The new alsa-base was identical to the above except for the line above snd-pcm snd-pdm-oss. It also didn't work. Same failure mode: visual display looks like it is playing an mp3, but there is no sound. I'm happy to oblige requests for more data. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ALSA setup problem
I'm trying to get sound working under Sarge using ALSA. I'm confident that my cables, speakers, etc. are working because I get sound from Knoppix. I've found some instructions at the alsa web site which seem to include consideration of details specific to Debian. My sound card is CM8738. My kernel-image is 2.4.26-1-686. I have installed the alsa-modules-2.4.26-1-686. I have run alsaconf, and it found my sound card and seemed to configure it. Much of what is in the instructions from alsa web site seem already to have been done by debian install scripts. But, I tried reexecuting update-modules even though all the recommended lines were already in /etc/modutils/ and I got: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o This looks bad to me. Is it? What do I do about it? -- Paul E Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA setup problem
On Sunday 01 August 2004 02:12 pm, Paul E Condon wrote: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.26-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o This looks bad to me. Is it? What do I do about it? The short, simple answer is that those modules are borked somehow. I've seen that too, using Debian's stock ALSA modules. Fortunately, I didn't need any of the ones that were affected. If you do, then I suppose all you can do from here is build the modules from source and see if you fare better. If you don't need the modules with unresolved symbols, then this isn't your problem. For example, I have: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-686/alsa/snd-pdaudiocf.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-686/alsa/snd-vx-cs.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-686/alsa/snd-vxp440.o depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.25-1-686/alsa/snd-vxpocket.o But I'm running a snd-emu10k1, so this doesn't affect me. -- Michael McIntyre Silvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621 http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/ http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
