AW: Panic again

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
Thank You

Stupid asking again.

How about booting DEBIAN
then read
grub and other system files and post them here?

Regards
Sophie




Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023 04:26
Bis: Cindy Sue Causey
Cc: Debian Users
Betreff: Re: Panic again

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

[...]

> An afterthought up top here: Is there a program that will snag and
> retain boot messages specifically geared toward systems that never
> fully boot? [...]

That depends on what you consider "boot messages". Surely you can
only start retaining stuff once you have managed to mount a writable
medium for the first time, which is pretty late in the boot process
(you miss all that interesting early kernel and initramfs action).

There are ways to dump all that via an interface (serial, net),
but then you need to set up things (including another computer
ready and willing to catch and store all that output).

> Has chroot been suggested and/or attempted? I'm imagining that it was
> possibly yes, suggested.

What has been tried is either taking file system snapshots (either
through LVM or with a snapshot capable file system) or installing
in an overlayfs, yes.

I think it hasn't stuck because of the added complexity. I know
I wouldn't use that for esactly that reason. Debian upgrades have
proven to be so rock solid that I just don't see it as a compelling
choice.

Cheers
--
t

AW: AW: Panic again

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon.

Thank You.

I tried to boot from DVD.

Same problem.
Machine started to boot
Machine frozen.
Many letters running before
last sentence:
"panic occured".

Thank You.
Sophie

I also tried to boot with
knoppix ubuntu fedora
same problem.





Im sorry.







Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023 17:22
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org ; Schwibinger 
Michael 
Betreff: Re: AW: Panic again

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 02:52:00PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
>
> Thank You for help
>
> I do write here with
> ###
>
> Hi Sophie,
>
> 
> > +++
> > I know.
> > But how can I produce a bug report
> > when the PC is frozen?
> >
>
> Take an image - type out any message you see on screen
> and copy it into an email here?
>

Image - sorry, that's confusing. If you see a message / any text comes up on
screen, take a picture of what it says, then copy that text into an email
here.

> >
> > +++
> > I do booting---> Crash
> >
>
> What *sort* of crash?
>
> ###
> The machine is frozen
> and the message is:
> panic occured.
>

Kernel panic occurred?

Is there any other text or maybe lots of output ...

> PC cannot react on keyboard or mouse.
>
> I made foto of the last lines.
>

>
> *  The machine hangs / does not take any input
>
> ###
> Yes.
>
>  / is
> locked up after some time - say 30 seconds - beyond that screen?
>
> ###
> Yes
> and the last lines
> I caught with a digicam.
>
>

>
> w
> > I do booting from HD
>
> So - the initial blue and white screen?
>
> ###
> We do it simple.
>
> One PC
> One user
> One OS
>
> We did install from CD
> and update until 9
> no problem.
>
> No special software.
>
> The screen is black.
>

What make of video card is inside the desktop PC?

Can that PC boot from a USB stick or anything other than a CD?

[If you go into the BIOS/firmware, there is often a setting to allow
booting from other sources than the hard disk. Many PCs also have a
key to hit immediately on booting to allow you to select some source
to boot from. On some PCs, that key is one of Delete / F2 / F7 or F12.
That does depend on the maker of the PC but is information that
you can find if you know who makes the motherboard.]

>
> > I interrupt booting and I do change to recobery mode
> > then there is DEBIAN 11.
> >
> How do you interrupt booting - what do you do to interrupt it?
>
> 
> I start PC in the morning
> after seconds there is a menu:
>
> Debian
> Debian recovery
> We chose recovery.
>
> Not chosing recovery:
> Frozen PC
> after many messages.
>
> If you select recovery mode:
>
> At this point, there is a kernel running in memory and a minimal system.
>
>
> ###
> Sorry I dont understand.
>
> Do You ask for a special message.
>
> Where can I read it out.
>
>
> The disk is not really touched yet.
> >
> > > I do booting recovery mode
> > > all is fine.
> > >
>
> > 
> >
> > Sorry no.
> >
> > Morning.
> > I push button of PC
> >
> > PC is starting
> >
> > DEBIAN tried to boot.
> >
>
> We need to know as precisely as possible what it did: if the filesystem is
> corrupted or if there's another problem.
>
>
> ###
> How can I check it.
>
> I am beginners
> but I think GRUB is destroyed.
>
> I think file system is fine.
>
> Or any booting file is damaged.
>
> What files shal I read out?
>
> >
> >
>
> ###
>
> This not working.
> Sorry.
>
>
>
> ###
> I only can boot from HD.
>

See above: you may find a key that would allow you to boot from a USB/CD.
>
>
> >
>
> ###
> Live system is not running.
> Im sorry.
>


>
>
>
> > Last and final question for now:
> >
> > Do you have anything that you *need* on this computer - any data that is
> > important to you?
> >
> >
> > +++
> > No.
> > I do daily backup.
> >
> >  If not, I would suggest that you use a new install
> > medium for Debian 12 - the netinst at https://www.debian.org/index.de.html
> >
> >
> > +++
> > Sorry for stupid question.
> >
> > All the very best, as ever,
> >
> > Andy Cater
> > (amaca...@debian.org)
> > >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Sophie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
>
> Regards
> Sophie
>
>
>
>
>

AW: Panic again

[Schwibinger Michael]

Hello
Here is Sophie
Im so sorry.

I dont understand this email.

Stupid question.
Update
Crash.
No relationship?

Regards
Sophie

Thank You



Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Oktober 2023 04:26
Bis: Cindy Sue Causey
Cc: Debian Users
Betreff: Re: Panic again

On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:

[...]

> An afterthought up top here: Is there a program that will snag and
> retain boot messages specifically geared toward systems that never
> fully boot? [...]

That depends on what you consider "boot messages". Surely you can
only start retaining stuff once you have managed to mount a writable
medium for the first time, which is pretty late in the boot process
(you miss all that interesting early kernel and initramfs action).

There are ways to dump all that via an interface (serial, net),
but then you need to set up things (including another computer
ready and willing to catch and store all that output).

> Has chroot been suggested and/or attempted? I'm imagining that it was
> possibly yes, suggested.

What has been tried is either taking file system snapshots (either
through LVM or with a snapshot capable file system) or installing
in an overlayfs, yes.

I think it hasn't stuck because of the added complexity. I know
I wouldn't use that for esactly that reason. Debian upgrades have
proven to be so rock solid that I just don't see it as a compelling
choice.

Cheers
--
t

Summary of understanding the bootin problem [WAS Re: AW: Panic again]

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 02:02:29PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 

SUMMARY

After a lot of questions backwards and forwards:

Sophie has: 

A desktop machine with one user and regular backups.
It was originally running Debian 9 and has been updated to Debian 11.
It has booting problems: it doesn't boot from the latest kernel and hangs.
It does run if started from "recovery"

>From reading the replies: it sounds like a kernel panic with a screenful of
text. We don't know exactly what. The machine is an older machine if it
has been running since Debian 9. 

This could be from a number of causes: a misconfigured/failed update to
Debian 11, Grub not being installed properly, maybe even a boot partition
being full so that the kernel was not installed.

Suggestions made here:

* Boot from an external medium, run recovery from there and reinstall Grub.

For Sophie: chroot is a way of moving to and working from the filesystem
on disk once you have booted from an external medium like a USB stick.
If you use something else to boot from - the installer, for example, then
changes you run are in memory until you write them. The recovery mode of
the installer runs entirely in memory.

At one point you "change root" and pivot to the other filesystem.
If the filesystem you want to use is mounted at /target

cd /target
chroot .

Now you are running from /target filesystem 

* Run a complete install using the Debian 12 Bookworm installer 

This might be the easiest way forward but will need someone to work out
* how to write the install medium - netinst.iso from the Debian website -
* how to persuade the desktop machine to boot from something other
than the hard disk
> 

With every good wish, as ever,
> 
> I did only understand
> chroot.
> 
> Is this another kind of booting?
> 
> Does this repair
> DEBIAN?.
> 
> If yes
> what do I have to do?
> 
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
> I did find this.
> 
> Good idea?
> 
> 
> Regards Sophie
> 
> 
> 

Andy
[amaca...@debian.org]
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Cindy Sue Causey 
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2023 21:22
> An: Debian Users 
> Betreff: Re: Panic again
> 
> On 10/26/23, Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
> >
> > Good afternoon
> > Thank You for help.
> >
> > I ll answer into Your email
> > with
> > +++
> >
> >
> > Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2023 12:04
> > An: Schwibinger Michael 
> > Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Panic again any idea IV
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:59:09AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> >> Good morning
> >>
> >> Thank You.
> >>
> >> I do booting.
> >> Crash.
> >> Bug report I did send.
> >>
> >
> > Hi Sophie,
> >
> > Thank you. You didn't really send a bug report
> >
> >
> > +++
> > I know.
> > But how can I produce a bug report
> > when the PC is frozen?
> 
> 
> An afterthought up top here: Is there a program that will snag and
> retain boot messages specifically geared toward systems that never
> fully boot? It seems like I've seen that topic come up and be answered
> one single time in the last ~25 years. I actually tried to find some
> form of that type of program the other day when I saw an earlier
> portion of this thread then. I was thinking, hoping maybe such a
> program could possibly be installed via chroot if it does exist.
> 
> Now my original thought..
> 
> Has chroot been suggested and/or attempted? I'm imagining that it was
> possibly yes, suggested.
> 
> If not, what about attempting a chroot to then next attempt apt or
> apt-get update then upgrade?
> 
> As a user who has occasionally battled issues, I know that, ideally,
> it would be nice, i.e. satisfying, to find the cause of bigger issues
> like this. At some point, I also know firsthand that outing the cause
> becomes less important when weighed against moving on in Life. :)
> 
> Apt/apt-get upgrade via chroot would potentially help preserve a
> particular setup rather than going with a new install if that is why
> this continues to be a topic.
> 
> If anyone can think of a reason why running apt/apt-get in chroot
> would only stand to cause data harm in this particular situation, that
> would be great to know.
> 
> My firsthand experience has been that tinkering via chroot has
> eventually gotten me back up and running maybe 99% of the time,
> including against multiple kernel panic-ish fails a few years ago.
> 
> Biggest reason my chroot repair attempts ever failed was due to not
> properly mounting maybe 4 or 5 basic necessities that apt/apt-get use
> to properly install programs. /dev and /proc come first to mind as
> examples there. That knowledge came from working through the manual
> steps necessary during debootstrap installs, in case that ever helps
> anyone else.
> 
> Cindy :)
> --
> Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
> * runs with a retirement state of mind *
> 

AW: Panic again

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
Thank You.

I did only understand
chroot.

Is this another kind of booting?

Does this repair
DEBIAN?.

If yes
what do I have to do?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
I did find this.

Good idea?


Regards Sophie






Von: Cindy Sue Causey 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2023 21:22
An: Debian Users 
Betreff: Re: Panic again

On 10/26/23, Schwibinger Michael  wrote:
>
> Good afternoon
> Thank You for help.
>
> I ll answer into Your email
> with
> +++
>
>
> Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 25. Oktober 2023 12:04
> An: Schwibinger Michael 
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: Panic again any idea IV
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 10:59:09AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>> Good morning
>>
>> Thank You.
>>
>> I do booting.
>> Crash.
>> Bug report I did send.
>>
>
> Hi Sophie,
>
> Thank you. You didn't really send a bug report
>
>
> +++
> I know.
> But how can I produce a bug report
> when the PC is frozen?


An afterthought up top here: Is there a program that will snag and
retain boot messages specifically geared toward systems that never
fully boot? It seems like I've seen that topic come up and be answered
one single time in the last ~25 years. I actually tried to find some
form of that type of program the other day when I saw an earlier
portion of this thread then. I was thinking, hoping maybe such a
program could possibly be installed via chroot if it does exist.

Now my original thought..

Has chroot been suggested and/or attempted? I'm imagining that it was
possibly yes, suggested.

If not, what about attempting a chroot to then next attempt apt or
apt-get update then upgrade?

As a user who has occasionally battled issues, I know that, ideally,
it would be nice, i.e. satisfying, to find the cause of bigger issues
like this. At some point, I also know firsthand that outing the cause
becomes less important when weighed against moving on in Life. :)

Apt/apt-get upgrade via chroot would potentially help preserve a
particular setup rather than going with a new install if that is why
this continues to be a topic.

If anyone can think of a reason why running apt/apt-get in chroot
would only stand to cause data harm in this particular situation, that
would be great to know.

My firsthand experience has been that tinkering via chroot has
eventually gotten me back up and running maybe 99% of the time,
including against multiple kernel panic-ish fails a few years ago.

Biggest reason my chroot repair attempts ever failed was due to not
properly mounting maybe 4 or 5 basic necessities that apt/apt-get use
to properly install programs. /dev and /proc come first to mind as
examples there. That knowledge came from working through the manual
steps necessary during debootstrap installs, in case that ever helps
anyone else.

Cindy :)
--
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA
* runs with a retirement state of mind *

Re: AW: Panic again

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 02:52:00PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good afternoon
> 
> Thank You for help
> 
> I do write here with
> ###
> 
> Hi Sophie,
> 
> 
> > +++
> > I know.
> > But how can I produce a bug report
> > when the PC is frozen?
> >
> 
> Take an image - type out any message you see on screen
> and copy it into an email here?
> 

Image - sorry, that's confusing. If you see a message / any text comes up on 
screen, take a picture of what it says, then copy that text into an email
here.

> >
> > +++
> > I do booting---> Crash
> >
> 
> What *sort* of crash?
> 
> ###
> The machine is frozen
> and the message is:
> panic occured.
> 

Kernel panic occurred? 

Is there any other text or maybe lots of output ...

> PC cannot react on keyboard or mouse.
> 
> I made foto of the last lines.
> 
 
> 
> *  The machine hangs / does not take any input
> 
> ###
> Yes.
> 
>  / is
> locked up after some time - say 30 seconds - beyond that screen?
> 
> ###
> Yes
> and the last lines
> I caught with a digicam.
> 
> 
 
> 
> w
> > I do booting from HD
> 
> So - the initial blue and white screen?
> 
> ###
> We do it simple.
> 
> One PC
> One user
> One OS
> 
> We did install from CD
> and update until 9
> no problem.
> 
> No special software.
> 
> The screen is black.
> 

What make of video card is inside the desktop PC?

Can that PC boot from a USB stick or anything other than a CD?

[If you go into the BIOS/firmware, there is often a setting to allow 
booting from other sources than the hard disk. Many PCs also have a
key to hit immediately on booting to allow you to select some source
to boot from. On some PCs, that key is one of Delete / F2 / F7 or F12.
That does depend on the maker of the PC but is information that 
you can find if you know who makes the motherboard.]

> 
> > I interrupt booting and I do change to recobery mode
> > then there is DEBIAN 11.
> >
> How do you interrupt booting - what do you do to interrupt it?
> 
> 
> I start PC in the morning
> after seconds there is a menu:
> 
> Debian
> Debian recovery
> We chose recovery.
> 
> Not chosing recovery:
> Frozen PC
> after many messages.
> 
> If you select recovery mode:
> 
> At this point, there is a kernel running in memory and a minimal system.
> 
> 
> ###
> Sorry I dont understand.
> 
> Do You ask for a special message.
> 
> Where can I read it out.
> 
> 
> The disk is not really touched yet.
> >
> > > I do booting recovery mode
> > > all is fine.
> > >
> 
> > 
> >
> > Sorry no.
> >
> > Morning.
> > I push button of PC
> >
> > PC is starting
> >
> > DEBIAN tried to boot.
> >
> 
> We need to know as precisely as possible what it did: if the filesystem is
> corrupted or if there's another problem.
> 
> 
> ###
> How can I check it.
> 
> I am beginners
> but I think GRUB is destroyed.
> 
> I think file system is fine.
> 
> Or any booting file is damaged.
> 
> What files shal I read out?
> 
> >
> >
> 
> ###
> 
> This not working.
> Sorry.
> 
> 
> 
> ###
> I only can boot from HD.
> 

See above: you may find a key that would allow you to boot from a USB/CD.
> 
> 
> >
> 
> ###
> Live system is not running.
> Im sorry.
> 


> 
> 
> 
> > Last and final question for now:
> >
> > Do you have anything that you *need* on this computer - any data that is
> > important to you?
> >
> >
> > +++
> > No.
> > I do daily backup.
> >
> >  If not, I would suggest that you use a new install
> > medium for Debian 12 - the netinst at https://www.debian.org/index.de.html
> >
> >
> > +++
> > Sorry for stupid question.
> >
> > All the very best, as ever,
> >
> > Andy Cater
> > (amaca...@debian.org)
> > >
> >
> >
> > Regards
> > Sophie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> 
> 
> 
> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

AW: Panic again

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon

Thank You for help

I do write here with
###










Hi Sophie,


> +++
> I know.
> But how can I produce a bug report
> when the PC is frozen?
>

Take an image - type out any message you see on screen
and copy it into an email here?

###
What is a image and how can I copy it?

This I did fin:

What is a Linux image?
So the Linux kernel image is an image (a picture of the state) of the Linux 
kernel that is able to run by itself after giving the control to it. Nowadays, 
the bootloader loads such an image from the hard disk's filesystem (driver is 
needed), replaces itself with it and so gives the control to it.







>
> +++
> I do booting---> Crash
>

What *sort* of crash?

###
The machine is frozen
and the message is:
panic occured.

PC cannot react on keyboard or mouse.

I made foto of the last lines.




* The machine does not get any further than the first boot screen -
the blue background and white text - if you press Enter and select
the entry that boots Debian/

###
no


*  The machine hangs / does not take any input


###
Yes.

 / is
locked up after some time - say 30 seconds - beyond that screen?

###
Yes
and the last lines
I caught with a digicam.



* The machine starts but immediately reboots



###
No.


w
> I do booting from HD

So - the initial blue and white screen?

###
We do it simple.

One PC
One user
One OS

We did install from CD
and update until 9
no problem.

No special software.

The screen is black.



> I interrupt booting and I do change to recobery mode
> then there is DEBIAN 11.
>
How do you interrupt booting - what do you do to interrupt it?


I start PC in the morning
after seconds there is a menu:

Debian
Debian recovery
We chose recovery.

Not chosing recovery:
Frozen PC
after many messages.





If you select recovery mode:

At this point, there is a kernel running in memory and a minimal system.


###
Sorry I dont understand.

Do You ask for a special message.

Where can I read it out.


The disk is not really touched yet.
>
> > I do booting recovery mode
> > all is fine.
> >

See question above:
>
> So: you are running Debian 11.
> +++
> Yes.
>
> You boot from an install medium?
> 
> I do booting from HD
> like every day before.
>
>
> Instead of "install", you choose "recovery mode".
>
> 
>
> Sorry no.
>
> Morning.
> I push button of PC
>
> PC is starting
>
> DEBIAN tried to boot.
>

We need to know as precisely as possible what it did: if the filesystem is
corrupted or if there's another problem.


###
How can I check it.

I am beginners
but I think GRUB is destroyed.

I think file system is fine.

Or any booting file is damaged.

What files shal I read out?



> Now I interrupt booting
> change to recovery.
>
See above: how?
>
>
> Next question:
>
> Is this on a desktop or on a laptop - what *sort* of computer, what type?
>
>
> 
> Its a desktop PC.
>
> > Can I check the PC using recovery mode?
> >
>
> The recovery mode looks very like an install. If you work through, then you
> should eventually be asked which filesystem to mount as your main partition.
>
> +++
> I think no.
>
> When I do chose recovery it is booting like an OK-Debian.
>
> If you are able to mount the original root (/) partition, you may also be
> able to find out any logs or error messages written to disk which may help
> diagnosis of your problem.
>
>
> +++
> How do I mount?
>
> When do I have to mount?
>

If you boot from an install CD or USB - as if you were going to install -
the system runs in memory only.



###

This not working.
Sorry.


At that point, if you select "recovery"
you are running in memory and can run through a process that will allow
you to point to the system on the hard disk.

###
I only can boot from HD.



>
> You may be asked whether you want to reinstall Grub to make the system
> bootable
>
> >
> > Does the same thing happen if you boot off a live operating system image?
> > Yes.
>
> Can you show us - maybe by using the live system to export the install
> logs?


###
Live system is not running.
Im sorry.


>
> Second question here.
>
> Can I read out
> install logs during using recovery?
>

If you are using recovery - at some point you will be able to access the
system on disk and, potentially, save off logs.


###
Good idea.

Which files I should copy to GEDIT
and post it here?



>
> Or grub?
>
>
>
> > I tried to kill Debian by install it new with a LIVE CD.
> > Same bug report.
> >

If you can get a boot medium, you should be able to reinstall from
nothing - but we need to know/see what's going on.

>
> Last and final question for now:
>
> Do you have anything that you *need* on this computer - any data that is
> important to you?
>
>
> +++
> No.
> I do daily backup.
>
>  If not, I would suggest that you use a new install
> medium for Debian 12 - the netinst at https://www.debian.org/index.de.html
>
>
> +++
> Sorry for stupid question.
>

If you can write the standard Debian installer - not the live installer -
to a USB stick, then 

Re: AW: Panic again any idea IV

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 01:51:11PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon
> I do ask for one year at many places also computer shops
> but there is still panic during booting .
> 
> Somebody here who has an idea
> where else I can ask?
> 
> Regards
> Thank You
> Sophie

Hi Sophie,

We don't have enough information from what you've given us to help you well.
You can use Google, you can ask us, but we need more information.

Let me give you an (imaginary) example: somebody says on this list
 "My car doesn't work: I can't move it"

With that much information, where do you start to problem solve and how
far do you go?

"Do you have the car keys?"

"Does the car have any fuel / does the battery have any charge?"

"Did somebody steal the wheels already?"

"Did somebody build a wall around it as a joke?"  ...

We can't know. Several people have asked you to give more information
on this and previous questions.

If you can give us more information -

Exactly  _what_ happens when it boots?

What error message is on the screen when it fails to boot?

Does the same thing happen if you boot off a live operating system image?

Have you changed anything recently?

Has someone checked that the memory is seated correctly in the slots?

If you can't help us with information, we have to keep guessing well or
badly. _PLEASE_ help us to help you.

Andy

(amaca...@debian.org)

AW: Panic again any idea IV

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon
I do ask for one year at many places also computer shops
but there is still panic during booting .

Somebody here who has an idea
where else I can ask?

Regards
Thank You
Sophie

Re: AW: Panic again any idea

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sat, Oct 21, 2023 at 12:21:53PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> Good afternoon
> 
> 
> Thank You
> 
> Here is the bug report:
> 
> https://ibb.co/1fDc8yQ
> Upload Image — Free Image Hosting
> Free image hosting and sharing service, upload pictures, photo host. Offers 
> integration solutions for uploading images to forums.
> ibb.co
> 
> 
> Regards
> Sophie
> 
> 

Hi Sophie,

That image doesn't exist, seemingly. Please give us details of what
exactly is wrong. If need be, take a photo with a phone and give us
the text of the error message.

Andy

amaca...@debian.org
> 
> 
> Von: to...@tuxteam.de
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2023 12:28
> Bis: Schwibinger Michael
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: Panic again any idea
> 
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 08:49:21AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> > Good morning
> > I did ask one year ago
> > but no answer here or in the www.
> > Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.
> > Thank You for help
> 
> Please write *EXACTLY* error message here.
> --
> t

AW: Panic again any idea

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon


Thank You

Here is the bug report:

https://ibb.co/1fDc8yQ
Upload Image — Free Image Hosting
Free image hosting and sharing service, upload pictures, photo host. Offers 
integration solutions for uploading images to forums.
ibb.co


Regards
Sophie




Von: to...@tuxteam.de
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2023 12:28
Bis: Schwibinger Michael
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Betreff: Re: Panic again any idea

On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 08:49:21AM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> Good morning
> I did ask one year ago
> but no answer here or in the www.
> Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.
> Thank You for help

Please write *EXACTLY* error message here.
--
t

AW: AW: Panic again any idea III some URLs

[Schwibinger Michael]

Good afternoon.

Thank You.

This does happen during booting.
I did update to 11 nothing more.

Here the bug report:

https://ibb.co/1fDc8yQ
Upload Image — Free Image Hosting<https://ibb.co/1fDc8yQ>
Free image hosting and sharing service, upload pictures, photo host. Offers 
integration solutions for uploading images to forums.
ibb.co



Regards
Sophie



Von: Andrew M.A. Cater 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Oktober 2023 16:12
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: AW: Panic again any idea III some URLs

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 02:24:39PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
>
> I did find this URLs in the www,
> but I cant understand.
>
> Can somebody help?
> Thank You.
>

Sorry to push this point again:

What *exact* error message do you see?

How soon does this happen?

Does it happen immediately after switch-on, for example?

If this is Debian 11, have you tried installing Debian 12 or using a
Debian live CD?

If you cannot give details, it makes it very difficult indeed for
anyone here to help you. If you do not feel confident in English,
then the debian-user-german mailing list also exists.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

(amaca...@debian.org)
>
>
> https://www.codementor.io/@sauravjaiswal999/kernel-panic-on-linux-and-how-to-fix-it-yxb0cl4zy
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/92212/panic-occurred-switching-back-to-text-console
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/492699/ubuntu-not-loading-kernel-panic
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/471012/ubuntu-14-04-lts-fails-to-start-with-a-kernel-panic
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/956737/end-kernel-panic-not-syncing-out-of-memory-and-no-killable-processes
> https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/issues/3498
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=944196
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=272932
>
>
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/731635/kernel-panic-in-debian
> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-kernel-panic
> https://www.liainfraservices.com/blog/how-to-solve-kernel-panic-error-in-linux/
>
>
>
>
> 
> Von: Marco M. 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2023 12:28
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: Panic again any idea
>
> Am 17.10.2023 um 08:49:21 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
>
> > Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.
>
> You have to give more details.
> What exactly does the text on the screen say?
>

Re: AW: Panic again any idea III some URLs

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 02:24:39PM +, Schwibinger Michael wrote:
> 
> I did find this URLs in the www,
> but I cant understand.
> 
> Can somebody help?
> Thank You.
> 

Sorry to push this point again:

What *exact* error message do you see?

How soon does this happen?

Does it happen immediately after switch-on, for example?

If this is Debian 11, have you tried installing Debian 12 or using a 
Debian live CD?

If you cannot give details, it makes it very difficult indeed for 
anyone here to help you. If you do not feel confident in English,
then the debian-user-german mailing list also exists.

With every good wish, as ever,

Andy Cater

(amaca...@debian.org)
> 
> 
> https://www.codementor.io/@sauravjaiswal999/kernel-panic-on-linux-and-how-to-fix-it-yxb0cl4zy
> 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/92212/panic-occurred-switching-back-to-text-console
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/492699/ubuntu-not-loading-kernel-panic
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/471012/ubuntu-14-04-lts-fails-to-start-with-a-kernel-panic
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/956737/end-kernel-panic-not-syncing-out-of-memory-and-no-killable-processes
> https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/issues/3498
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=944196
> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=272932
> 
> 
> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/731635/kernel-panic-in-debian
> https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-kernel-panic
> https://www.liainfraservices.com/blog/how-to-solve-kernel-panic-error-in-linux/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Von: Marco M. 
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2023 12:28
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
> Betreff: Re: Panic again any idea
> 
> Am 17.10.2023 um 08:49:21 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael:
> 
> > Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.
> 
> You have to give more details.
> What exactly does the text on the screen say?
> 

AW: Panic again any idea III some URLs

[Schwibinger Michael]

I did find this URLs in the www,
but I cant understand.

Can somebody help?
Thank You.



https://www.codementor.io/@sauravjaiswal999/kernel-panic-on-linux-and-how-to-fix-it-yxb0cl4zy

https://askubuntu.com/questions/92212/panic-occurred-switching-back-to-text-console
https://askubuntu.com/questions/492699/ubuntu-not-loading-kernel-panic
https://askubuntu.com/questions/471012/ubuntu-14-04-lts-fails-to-start-with-a-kernel-panic
https://askubuntu.com/questions/956737/end-kernel-panic-not-syncing-out-of-memory-and-no-killable-processes
https://github.com/pi-hole/pi-hole/issues/3498
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=944196
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=272932


https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/731635/kernel-panic-in-debian
https://www.redhat.com/sysadmin/linux-kernel-panic
https://www.liainfraservices.com/blog/how-to-solve-kernel-panic-error-in-linux/





Von: Marco M. 
Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Oktober 2023 12:28
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Betreff: Re: Panic again any idea

Am 17.10.2023 um 08:49:21 Uhr schrieb Schwibinger Michael:

> Debian has panic(=no booting) after update to 11.

You have to give more details.
What exactly does the text on the screen say?