Re: About getting videos from youtube

2009-12-08 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Dec 08, 2009 at 12:43:21PM -0200, Rogério Brito wrote:
> Hi, Celejar.
> 
> On Dec 08 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:08:33 -0200 Rogério Brito wrote:
> > > I am the maintainer of the youtube-dl package and, unfortunately,
> > > due to a decision of the release team, it won't migrate to the
> > > testing distribution (and, as a consequence, it will not be part of
> > > a stable release).
> > 
> > Can you explain just *why* the release team won't allow its migration?
> > I took a quick look at the various dev and PTS pages associated with
> > the package, and I couldn't make out the reason.
> 
> The release team won't allow youtube-dl to be part of a stable release
> for fear that the "interfaces" with youtube change during the life cycle
> of the stable release.
> 
> Of course, similar statements could be made about many packages in the
> distribution that rely on services on the web that are beyond our
> control, but...
> 
Would that make it qualify for the "volatile" archive?

-Rob


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Re: About getting videos from youtube

2009-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 8 Dec 2009 12:43:21 -0200
Rogério Brito  wrote:

> Hi, Celejar.
> 
> On Dec 08 2009, Celejar wrote:
> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:08:33 -0200 Rogério Brito wrote:
> > > I am the maintainer of the youtube-dl package and, unfortunately,
> > > due to a decision of the release team, it won't migrate to the
> > > testing distribution (and, as a consequence, it will not be part of
> > > a stable release).
> > 
> > Can you explain just *why* the release team won't allow its migration?
> > I took a quick look at the various dev and PTS pages associated with
> > the package, and I couldn't make out the reason.
> 
> The release team won't allow youtube-dl to be part of a stable release
> for fear that the "interfaces" with youtube change during the life cycle
> of the stable release.
> 
> Of course, similar statements could be made about many packages in the
> distribution that rely on services on the web that are beyond our
> control, but...

Yes, e.g. fetchyahoo.  I've filed this against it more than six months
ago:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=538932

and I've gotten no response ...

> Anyway, for reference, the thread here gives the justification.
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/11/msg00033.html
> 
> Also
> 
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile/2009/12/msg8.html

Interesting, thanks.
 
> But, frankly, my forces for arguing are a bit drained and I don't want
> anything disruptive. I'm too old for that.
> 
> I just maintain the package and I wanted to get some wider audience, as
> a lot of people may have extreme fear of the "unstable" label,
> preventing them of knowing about a given package that may be nice to
> have.

I run Sid, so it's not an issue for me, but I see your point.

> User feedback is warmly appreciated, BTW.

I happily used youtube-dl for a while, but at some point I switched to
cclive.  I'm not sure exactly why, but I think that I ran into some
trouble with youtube-dl.

I noticed in the email thread you cite that you mentiod that youtube-dl
has some features that the others don't.  I really only use them in the
simplest, default way, just copying and pasting links and running
'youtube-dl ', but can you elaborate on that?

> Done, no problem. Please, do keep me in the CC'ies.

Thanks for your work on this package!

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Re: About getting videos from youtube

2009-12-08 Thread Rogério Brito
Hi, Celejar.

On Dec 08 2009, Celejar wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:08:33 -0200 Rogério Brito wrote:
> > I am the maintainer of the youtube-dl package and, unfortunately,
> > due to a decision of the release team, it won't migrate to the
> > testing distribution (and, as a consequence, it will not be part of
> > a stable release).
> 
> Can you explain just *why* the release team won't allow its migration?
> I took a quick look at the various dev and PTS pages associated with
> the package, and I couldn't make out the reason.

The release team won't allow youtube-dl to be part of a stable release
for fear that the "interfaces" with youtube change during the life cycle
of the stable release.

Of course, similar statements could be made about many packages in the
distribution that rely on services on the web that are beyond our
control, but...

Anyway, for reference, the thread here gives the justification.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2009/11/msg00033.html

Also

http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile/2009/12/msg8.html

But, frankly, my forces for arguing are a bit drained and I don't want
anything disruptive. I'm too old for that.

I just maintain the package and I wanted to get some wider audience, as
a lot of people may have extreme fear of the "unstable" label,
preventing them of knowing about a given package that may be nice to
have.

User feedback is warmly appreciated, BTW.

> [Please reply to -user and not to me personally; I accidentally sent
> this first to -user, before noticing your request for cc., and I'm now
> sending the message to you.

Done, no problem. Please, do keep me in the CC'ies.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

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Re: About getting videos from youtube

2009-12-08 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 16:08:33 -0200
Rogério Brito  wrote:

> Dear users,
> 
> I am the maintainer of the youtube-dl package and, unfortunately, due to
> a decision of the release team, it won't migrate to the testing
> distribution (and, as a consequence, it will not be part of a stable
> release).

Can you explain just *why* the release team won't allow its migration?
I took a quick look at the various dev and PTS pages associated with
the package, and I couldn't make out the reason.

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About getting videos from youtube

2009-12-07 Thread Rogério Brito
Dear users,

I am the maintainer of the youtube-dl package and, unfortunately, due to
a decision of the release team, it won't migrate to the testing
distribution (and, as a consequence, it will not be part of a stable
release).

The package is, OTOH, quite stable, and I use it everyday, without any
problems (and so are the people using it already).

For those that don't know, the package is meant to grab (store) videos
from youtube (even videos in 1080p resolution!) and it can automatically
download a given video in the best resolution available.

So, I would love if more people used it and informed me of potential
problems that they may run across.

The package is at: http://packages.debian.org/sid/youtube-dl and any
feedback is warmly appreciated.


Regards, Rogério Brito.

P.S.: Please, keep me in CC'ies, as I am not subscribed to -user.
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