Re: Acron A5000
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 03:24:32AM -0800, Paul Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:11:09AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > > Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, > > please? > > Only if you can answer me this: > > Does your current OS install on my Yoyodyne 75/20A4500 Mark II? 8:o) > > For example, my computer is... > > AMD Athalon XP 2100+ Um - I've never heard of an Athalon either :-) Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
On Saturday 29 March 2003 01:54, Paul Grenyer wrote: > > As for backing up first. I thought you migth be interested to know that > Risc OS is entirely ROM based and can run with or without a hard disk. In 2 MB of ROM, IIRC, and in that you get a complete full-featured GUI and command line OS, with an editor, plus BBC Basic 5 interpreter (a very comprehensive Basic) with built-in assembler.Acorn code is *very* compact! cr -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
Hi > Exactly! I love Acorn machines and I don't think I would have gone into IT > without the exposure to them that I had at a young age. I still own a > BBC B, A3000, A5000 and RiscPC (with 200Mhz StrongARM and RiscOS 3.5). The > RiscPC was an awesome creation with it's dual processors (and one of > them didn't even have to be a native processor!). > > Shame that they stopped making machines :-( I believe someone has started making something similar again. I'll have to do some more research, though. Regards Paul Paul Grenyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.paulgrenyer.co.uk ".and then one day, nearly 2000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change.." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
On Fri, 2003-03-28 at 15:25, Hugh Saunders wrote: > which is why riscOS is so flippin quick and my a3000 boots quicker than > a 1.1ghz pentium :) Exactly! I love Acorn machines and I don't think I would have gone into IT without the exposure to them that I had at a young age. I still own a BBC B, A3000, A5000 and RiscPC (with 200Mhz StrongARM and RiscOS 3.5). The RiscPC was an awesome creation with it's dual processors (and one of them didn't even have to be a native processor!). Shame that they stopped making machines :-( Andy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 01:54:47PM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > As for backing up first. I thought you migth be interested to know that > Risc OS is entirely ROM based and can run with or without a hard disk. > So other than personal files (of which I don't have any :-) ) there is > nothing to back up. :-) which is why riscOS is so flippin quick and my a3000 boots quicker than a 1.1ghz pentium :) hugh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
Hi > I've heard of Debian running on similar hardware. Give the ARM port a > try. I don't have any ARM hardware so I haven't tried it myself, but > I'm reasonably sure it should run. Back up what you have first in > case it doesn't. According to the ARM part of the debian website (That someone pointed out to me earlier), debian doesn't yet run on the A5000 unfortunately. I'd be tempted to try anyway, if I can work out how. As for backing up first. I thought you migth be interested to know that Risc OS is entirely ROM based and can run with or without a hard disk. So other than personal files (of which I don't have any :-) ) there is nothing to back up. :-) Regards Paul Paul Grenyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.paulgrenyer.co.uk "So long and thanks for all the fish." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
Hi > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:11:09AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > > I'm new to this list and I am hoping someone can answer a quick > > straight forward question for me. I have looked on the website and did > > try the archives, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do a global > > search...? > groups.google.com :) Thanks. I read someone elses post stating "Google is your friend". I tried "debian"+"A5000" and found the page you mention below. > > > Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, > is that a persistent mis-spelling? do you mean acorn A5000? > > http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/status > > is a good place to start, mentions A5000 as not yet but soon:) > > maybe able to use my a3000 in a while then!! Ah well. Looks like I'll have to go back to trying Arm Linux. It's a shame because most of the downlaods (for A5000) appear to have vanished. :-( Thanks. Regards Paul Paul Grenyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.paulgrenyer.co.uk "So long and thanks for all the fish." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 11:51:56AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > Ok. Fair comment. I think I've had my answer, however here are the > details: > > Operating System RISC-OS 3 > Timeline Released: September 1991 > CPU type ARM3 > CPU word length 32 bits > CPU clock rate 25 MHz I've heard of Debian running on similar hardware. Give the ARM port a try. I don't have any ARM hardware so I haven't tried it myself, but I'm reasonably sure it should run. Back up what you have first in case it doesn't. Right now, I'm waiting for the SuperH port to stabilize and get an installer so I can give it a go on my LG Phenom Ultra (PDA currently running wince 2, almost full sized keyboard, half height VGA display, PCMCIA, sound and a winmodem built in...not sure what the storage specs are off the top of my head. Runs on a Hitachi SuperH 3 processor). - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+hELlJ5vLSqVpK2kRAm/WAJ97D7XMwHUPzPG9RD6/WYbWJlL5GgCgmgFS yHqHqT8/iBK/6p6SxUhsxso= =y1MB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
On Friday 28 March 2003 23:24, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:11:09AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > > Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, > > please? > > Only if you can answer me this: > > Does your current OS install on my Yoyodyne 75/20A4500 Mark II? 8:o) > > You're probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about and > questinging Yoyodyne's existance right now. Well, you confused us > similarly. If you give us more specific information, we should be > able to tell you. > > For example, my computer is... > > AMD Athalon XP 2100+ > 100GB Western Digital Caviar WD1000BB hard drive > 20GB Western Digital Caviar WD200EB hard drive > 629MB RAM > Generic ATAPI DVD-ROM > Teac CD-W512EB CDRW burner > D-Link DFE-538TX ethernet adapter > SoundBlaster Live! > Soyo KT-333 Dragon Lite motherboard > > This kind of information should be enough for most hardware people to > give you a ballpark figure on whether or not things will work. Be > prepared to break the motherboard description down to chipsets if it's > an obscure one that nobody here has heard of or tried. > > I hope this is enough to get you started. In this particular case, that doesn't really apply. An Acorn (note the spelling) A5000 is a very specific machine which uses an ARM (Acorn RISC Machine) CPU and comes with a slightly Mac-like GUI (KDE has a theme based on its look & feel) and an operating system called RiscOS. It's no sort of x86 clone.Generally, all A5000's are virtually identical, about the only changes made to them may have been that the hard drives may have been replaced by bigger ones.They're about the age of 386's but tend to be even more rock-solid reliable than Linuxboxes. So if Debian has been ported to run on one A5000 it will run on 'em all, hard drive space permitting, and 'A5000' is an adequate description. However, RiscOS code is extremely compact, and whether Linux can do anything useful in 4MB of RAM I'm not sure. This is quite unlike the mix-n-match situation with regard to x86's. cr ... contemplating my old A5000 running alongside the collection of random parts that is my Linux box -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
Hi (snip) > This kind of information should be enough for most hardware people to > give you a ballpark figure on whether or not things will work. Be > prepared to break the motherboard description down to chipsets if it's > an obscure one that nobody here has heard of or tried. > > I hope this is enough to get you started. Ok. Fair comment. I think I've had my answer, however here are the details: Operating System RISC-OS 3 Timeline Released: September 1991 CPU type ARM3 CPU word length 32 bits CPU clock rate 25 MHz ROM Size 2 MiB RAM Size 1 MiB, 2 MiB, 4 MiB Keyboard Typewriter keyboard Number of keys 103 Graphics chip VIDC Graphics modes 640x256, 640x512, 800x600 Total number of colours 4,096 Total peripheral memory 1.56 MiB, 41.6 MiB Sound channels 8 Sound output Stereo I/O Ports 3x Expansion, Audio output, Composite video, Econet, Expansion, Parallel, RS-423, VGA Thanks! Regards Paul Paul Grenyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.paulgrenyer.co.uk "So long and thanks for all the fish." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:11:09AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, > please? Only if you can answer me this: Does your current OS install on my Yoyodyne 75/20A4500 Mark II? 8:o) You're probably wondering what the heck I'm talking about and questinging Yoyodyne's existance right now. Well, you confused us similarly. If you give us more specific information, we should be able to tell you. For example, my computer is... AMD Athalon XP 2100+ 100GB Western Digital Caviar WD1000BB hard drive 20GB Western Digital Caviar WD200EB hard drive 629MB RAM Generic ATAPI DVD-ROM Teac CD-W512EB CDRW burner D-Link DFE-538TX ethernet adapter SoundBlaster Live! Soyo KT-333 Dragon Lite motherboard This kind of information should be enough for most hardware people to give you a ballpark figure on whether or not things will work. Be prepared to break the motherboard description down to chipsets if it's an obscure one that nobody here has heard of or tried. I hope this is enough to get you started. - -- .''`. Baloo Ursidae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian admin and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+hDDwJ5vLSqVpK2kRAqD/AKCBYpfeEPREqpGYyah2wDFoSNDXQACgiDgG d8fHRZLXtFkaGWYdd8cCdvM= =4Acr -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Acron A5000
On Fri, Mar 28, 2003 at 09:11:09AM +, Paul Grenyer wrote: > I'm new to this list and I am hoping someone can answer a quick > straight forward question for me. I have looked on the website and did > try the archives, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do a global > search...? groups.google.com :) > Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, is that a persistent mis-spelling? do you mean acorn A5000? http://www.debian.org/ports/arm/status is a good place to start, mentions A5000 as not yet but soon:) maybe able to use my a3000 in a while then!! hugh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Acron A5000
Hi All I'm new to this list and I am hoping someone can answer a quick straight forward question for me. I have looked on the website and did try the archives, but there doesn't seem to be a way to do a global search...? Anyway, can someone tell me if I can install Debian on my Acron A5000, please? Thanks! Regards Paul Paul Grenyer Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.paulgrenyer.co.uk "So long and thanks for all the fish." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
