Re: Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 16:18, Scott Henson wrote: > On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 01:15, Peter Whysall wrote: > > > PS. Anyone have any clues as to why the disk performance on this box is > > slow? This manifested itself on 2.2.19, 2.2.20, and 2.4.18. Very boggy > > at times. > I find all the debian kernel packages slow on my machine. I think this > is because of how modularized they are. Having to load up so many > modules may cause a slow down. I always build my own kernel packages > with the make-kpkg provided by kernel-package I think the kernels I > make on my own are much faster. YMMV. The kernel will only load the modules that are selected for loading with modconf. It doesn't load every module. That would be silly. Its more likely to be the removal of much of the unneeded statically compiled stuff that is speeding up your boot, and optimisation for your CPU/memory architecture/whatever that speeds up the running. Building heavily modular kernels is a *good idea*. One day I gaurentee you will wish you had. Crispin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 01:15, Peter Whysall wrote: > PS. Anyone have any clues as to why the disk performance on this box is > slow? This manifested itself on 2.2.19, 2.2.20, and 2.4.18. Very boggy > at times. I find all the debian kernel packages slow on my machine. I think this is because of how modularized they are. Having to load up so many modules may cause a slow down. I always build my own kernel packages with the make-kpkg provided by kernel-package I think the kernels I make on my own are much faster. YMMV. -- -Peace kid Scott Henson [EMAIL PROTECTED] "God's the ultimate playa, so naturally He's going to have some haters," rapper Ice Cube said. "But these haters need to realize that if you mess with the man upstairs, you will get your ass smote. True dat." -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 07:46, Kent West wrote: > Peter Whysall wrote: > >What I /would/ appreciate is any clue on getting the Rage 128 to work > >with XFree86 4.1 so I can stay Debianized? > > > If you're willing to try, I'd recommend copying your working > XF86Config-4 file to a safe place, then remove your 4.2 version of X, > reinstall Debian's X, and replace your working XF86Config-4. I'd > estimate an 85% chance of success, maybe higher. Certainly worth a try - I'll have a bash at that. Easily done, too :) Thanks Peter. -- Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] The TLD in my email address is sdrawkcab. Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 sid -- kernel 2.4.18 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
Peter Whysall wrote: "No screens found." Sigh. I broke. I sinned. I downloaded the Linux binary distribution of XFree86 4.2.0, renamed /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 out of the way, ran Xinstall.sh, and it worked first time, giving me glorious 1280x1024x32bpp loveliness. What I /would/ appreciate is any clue on getting the Rage 128 to work with XFree86 4.1 so I can stay Debianized? If you're willing to try, I'd recommend copying your working XF86Config-4 file to a safe place, then remove your 4.2 version of X, reinstall Debian's X, and replace your working XF86Config-4. I'd estimate an 85% chance of success, maybe higher. Kent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 14:15, Peter Whysall wrote: > PS. Anyone have any clues as to why the disk performance on this box is > slow? This manifested itself on 2.2.19, 2.2.20, and 2.4.18. Very boggy > at times. DMA on IDE transfers not switched on? When the disk is being hammered, is CPU usage going through the roof? If so, then DMA is not on. Kind Regards Crispin Wellington -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Adventures with ATI Rage 128 Pro and Debian Unstable
I decided to partition my work W2K machine (Dell Optiplex GX240 - 1.7GHz P4, 256MB, the aforementioned ATI Rage 128 thingy) and install Debian. Thought, "Hmm, this is a nice modern machine. Should be a doddle." Ho ho. What a jape I was in for. Installation went fine, a little dance around because I'd neglected to install a kernel (was booting off Rescue) but I downloaded a kernel-image deb file on another machine, plonked it on a CD and installed it. Firstly, LILO wouldn't install. This was a pain in the bum, but not disastrous - once I'd made myself a boot floppy from my actually running kernel (kernel-image-2.2.20-idepci) it was tolerable. After all, one rarely has to reboot Linux during the installation process. Did some basic package-installation tasks - aptutils, aptitude, etc. Switched from stable to unstable, did a dist-upgrade (at which point I decided to snarf a kernel source package and the kernel-package package - mysteriously, when I installed my custom kernel package, LILO decided to work. Go figure.) And there the fun stopped. apt-get install x-window-system Run xf86config (like I have literally hundreds of times before), pick my card off the list, away we go. No dice. "No screens found". Eh? Cue much waffing about by me, twiddling various bits of XF86Config/XF86Config-4 (Yes, I had both :0). "No screens found". Give up. Find a useful-ish page on Linuxnewbie.org that mentions the fact that although the ATI Rage 128 is supported, XFree86 4.1 doesn't detect it right, and you need to munge your XF86Config(-4) to fix it by explicitly specifying the "r128" driver, not the "ati" one. "No screens found." Sigh. I broke. I sinned. I downloaded the Linux binary distribution of XFree86 4.2.0, renamed /etc/X11 and /usr/X11R6 out of the way, ran Xinstall.sh, and it worked first time, giving me glorious 1280x1024x32bpp loveliness. A sort of choppy install of GNOME followed (I really want an virtual package or a task to do that for me, instead of my "damn, forgot gnome-session, damn, forgot gnome-applets etc etc" approach) but I'm cooking on gas. I'm not going to ask when 4.2 is going to be in unstable because the answer to that is "when it is". What I /would/ appreciate is any clue on getting the Rage 128 to work with XFree86 4.1 so I can stay Debianized? (If I wanted to dink around with tarballs I'd run Slackware) PS. Anyone have any clues as to why the disk performance on this box is slow? This manifested itself on 2.2.19, 2.2.20, and 2.4.18. Very boggy at times. Regards Peter. -- Peter Whysall [EMAIL PROTECTED] The TLD in my email address is sdrawkcab. Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 sid -- kernel 2.4.18 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part