Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
- Tong - [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny, and have loads of things to fix, keeping tetex from upgrading to texlive will sure ease the transition for the moment. You should put your tetex packages on hold: # aptitude hold tetex-base tetex-bin tetex-extra Then try aptitude -s dist-upgrade. If that would still pull in texlive, you are bitten by bug #434731: aptitude will ignore the hold if a package that is _not_ put on hold can only be upgraded by upgrading a package that _is_ on hold. But hopefully that will not be the case. The migration to texlive will pull in many hundred of megabytes if you have tetex-extra installed. In that case I would recommend to use aptitude's TUI to uninstall it and manually select the texlive packages you want (look in the dependencies of texlive-full). This is how I managed the transition without pulling in too much stuff. Hope this helps, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
Hi. - Tong -, 25.08.2007 05:51: On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:03:42 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? See the manpage of aptitude and look for hold. […] Please be *responsible* with what you said. Do you know that your hold does not work? Nope. Only heard about it multiple times and thought it might be the solution here. I never used it myself. If you are not sure yourself, shouldn't you at least test it before blunt it out? I don’t use aptitude. If you want to help, then give *real* help, not giving false directions to waste other's time. You just could take my hint for further research if it doesn’t work directly. (You could have come up with the idea to put everything tex-related on hold, for example.) Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
On Fri, Aug 24, 2007 at 11:44:28PM +, - Tong - [EMAIL PROTECTED] was heard to say: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? Holding the various tetex packages (tetex-bin, tetex-common, tetex-extra, tetex-doc) should work -- but I wouldn't be surprised if they get dragged in by dependencies anyway. aptitude holds don't prevent versioned dependencies from forcing an upgrade, unfortunately. (and TBH, I hardly ever use holds these days, so they may be even more buggy than I think) Personally, I would just bite the bullet and do the upgrade -- tetex is going away and you'll have to switch over eventually anyway. Is there a particular difficulty you're running into with the upgrade? Daniel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:38:52 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: You just could take my hint for further research if it doesn’t work directly. (You could have come up with the idea to put everything tex-related on hold, for example.) Thanks for the hint, as you may have already discovered from Sven's post, this is much more complicated than that... thanks all the same. -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
Daniel Burrows [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Holding the various tetex packages (tetex-bin, tetex-common, tetex-extra, tetex-doc) should work -- but I wouldn't be surprised if they get dragged in by dependencies anyway. aptitude holds don't prevent versioned dependencies from forcing an upgrade, unfortunately. (and TBH, I hardly ever use holds these days, so they may be even more buggy than I think) Personally, I would just bite the bullet and do the upgrade -- tetex is going away and you'll have to switch over eventually anyway. Is there a particular difficulty you're running into with the upgrade? The problem is that upgrading tetex-extra will pull in a lot texlive-*lang packages you will probably never need: $ aptitude -s install tetex-extra Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Reading extended state information Initializing package states... Done Reading task descriptions... Done Building tag database... Done The following NEW packages will be automatically installed: tetex-bin texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-fonts-extra texlive-generic-extra texlive-lang-croatian texlive-lang-cyrillic texlive-lang-czechslovak texlive-lang-danish texlive-lang-dutch texlive-lang-finnish texlive-lang-french texlive-lang-greek texlive-lang-hungarian texlive-lang-italian texlive-lang-latin texlive-lang-mongolian texlive-lang-norwegian texlive-lang-other texlive-lang-polish texlive-lang-portuguese texlive-lang-spanish texlive-lang-swedish texlive-lang-vietnamese texlive-latex-extra texlive-math-extra texlive-pstricks texlive-publishers texpower texpower-manual The following packages have been kept back: bash-doc expectk icedove icedove-locale-de The following NEW packages will be installed: tetex-bin tetex-extra texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-fonts-extra texlive-generic-extra texlive-lang-croatian texlive-lang-cyrillic texlive-lang-czechslovak texlive-lang-danish texlive-lang-dutch texlive-lang-finnish texlive-lang-french texlive-lang-greek texlive-lang-hungarian texlive-lang-italian texlive-lang-latin texlive-lang-mongolian texlive-lang-norwegian texlive-lang-other texlive-lang-polish texlive-lang-portuguese texlive-lang-spanish texlive-lang-swedish texlive-lang-vietnamese texlive-latex-extra texlive-math-extra texlive-pstricks texlive-publishers texpower texpower-manual 0 packages upgraded, 30 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. Need to get 216MB of archives. After unpacking 420MB will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] Would download/install/remove packages. I found no other way than deselecting tetex-extra and manually installing the wanted texlive packages to avoid this. And it is probably easier to do this if the rest of the system is up to date already. Regards, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
Hi, Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny, and have loads of things to fix, keeping tetex from upgrading to texlive will sure ease the transition for the moment. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
In your apt.conf file try a line like exclude texl* and see if that helps. On Fri, 24 Aug 2007, - Tong - wrote: Hi, Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny, and have loads of things to fix, keeping tetex from upgrading to texlive will sure ease the transition for the moment. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:48:25 -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? I just upgraded from Etch to Lenny, and have loads of things to fix, keeping tetex from upgrading to texlive will sure ease the transition for the moment. In your apt.conf file try a line like exclude texl* and see if that helps. wow, that's fast respond! unfortunately, it doesn't work for me: echo 'exclude texl*' /etc/apt/apt.conf $ aptitude dist-upgrade The following NEW packages will be installed: [...] python2.5-minimal texlive texlive-base texlive-base-bin texlive-bibtex-extra texlive-common texlive-doc-base texlive-font-utils [...] 1127 packages upgraded, 146 newly installed, 28 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [...] -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
Hi. - Tong -, 25.08.2007 01:44: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? See the manpage of aptitude and look for hold. Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive
On Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:03:42 +0200, Mathias Brodala wrote: Is there any way to stop dist-upgrade from upgrading tetex to texlive? See the manpage of aptitude and look for hold. so what? Actively participate in group discussion is good thing, but please be responsible with what you said. Just now there is an expert suggest twisting apt.conf with something that doesn't even exist in man apt.conf. Now her comes another expert brush away a complicate problem with *three* letter -- look for hold. Please be *responsible* with what you said. Do you know that your hold does not work? If you are not sure yourself, shouldn't you at least test it before blunt it out? If you want to help, then give *real* help, not giving false directions to waste other's time. thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
