Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-02 Thread Paul Johnson
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Silvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> alerts and people ignored them due to forged headers. I know it in
>> very unlikely that Debian would do this, but I just despise these
>> tactics, and the people who are putting Debian in a bad light.
>
> Spammers should be locked up and fed nothing but... Spam.  :)

But SPAM (the Hormel product is always capitalized) is good.  Instead,
get that Flavorite Potted Beef Byproduct they sell for 30 cents for
the big can at the inflated downtown Safeway prices...and still
doesn't sell.

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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-02 Thread Alex Nordstrom
On Thursday, 2 Sep 2004 02:23, Rthoreau wrote:
> You think spammers would know a little bit about the addresses they
> forge. But then again what they do makes no sense, I guess that is
> what spam filters are for.  I just feel bad for Debian in general,
> cause someone might be mistaken, and really think it is from Debian.
> Or heaven forbid, say a problem arose and Debian decided to email
> alerts and people ignored them due to forged headers. I know it in
> very unlikely that Debian would do this, but I just despise these
> tactics, and the people who are putting Debian in a bad light.

Debian does not have a register of its users e-mail addresses. Any such 
notices would go out on debian-announce and debian-security-announce to 
those subscribed. I think it would take a lot before people start to 
ignore messages from particularly the second source.

I think it's pretty clear that spammers these days like to use their 
send lists as a source for forged headers and fake contact addresses. 
We see that every week here on d-u, some weeks more than others, as 
people write about cancelling subscriptions to services Debian doesn't 
provide, being dissatisfied with purchases, or asking to be removed 
from the send list (and I have a pretty good feeling they are not 
actually on the d-u send list) -- not to mention the misconfigured mail 
servers harassing debian-user about mails they got from someone who 
said their name was debian-user.

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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-02 Thread Silvan

> alerts and people ignored them due to forged headers. I know it in
> very unlikely that Debian would do this, but I just despise these
> tactics, and the people who are putting Debian in a bad light.

Spammers should be locked up and fed nothing but... Spam.  :)

I get a lot of these too.  All the usual offenders.  Pills and porn.

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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Rthoreau
> On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 10:20, Richard Lyons wrote:
>> On Wednesday 01 September 2004 14:17, Rthoreau wrote:
>> I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
>> weird. 
>> [...]
>> 
>> Yes, I've had a few recently.
>> 

> I'd have to say the vast majority of spam I've received in the last
> month was actually addressed to debian-user, and not my regular 
>address.

Yea I noticed an increase, but this is the first time it happened to 
my spam account, which is different from my list supplied address. 

You think spammers would know a little bit about the addresses they 
forge. But then again what they do makes no sense, I guess that is 
what spam filters are for.  I just feel bad for Debian in general, 
cause someone might be mistaken, and really think it is from Debian.  
Or heaven forbid, say a problem arose and Debian decided to email 
alerts and people ignored them due to forged headers. I know it in 
very unlikely that Debian would do this, but I just despise these 
tactics, and the people who are putting Debian in a bad light.

Rthoreau


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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Martin Dickopp
Rthoreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just wanted to warn people about forged headers, The E-mail had an 
> vbs attachment with it, which is even more funny.  Anyway be aware of 
> forged headers, this is the first I have seen,

If it was really your first such mail, you can count yourself lucky. :)
I receive dozens of spam and virus mails with forged, but existing
sender addresses daily.

Martin


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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Brian Pack
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 10:20, Richard Lyons wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 September 2004 14:17, Rthoreau wrote:
> > I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
> > weird. 
> [...]
> 
> Yes, I've had a few recently.
> 

I'd have to say the vast majority of spam I've received in the last
month was actually addressed to debian-user, and not my regular address.



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Re: Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday 01 September 2004 14:17, Rthoreau wrote:
> I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
> weird. 
[...]

Yes, I've had a few recently.

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Anyone getting debian forged headers in Email?

2004-09-01 Thread Rthoreau
I got this in one of my spam accounts, and thought it was a little 
weird. Here is the full headers.
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Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Delivered-To:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received:(qmail 2491 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2004 19:30:28 -
Received:from unknown (HELO prdmx8.nwk.iwon.com) ([10.50.30.74]) 
(envelope-sender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
by 0 (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 30 Aug 2004 19:30:28 -
Return-Path:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Received:from x8v9x9.org (pool-141-151-76-183.phil.east.verizon.net 
[141.151.76.183]) by prdmx8.nwk.iwon.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 
3BC193402A
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:13:28 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 15:30:21 -0500
To: "Rthoreau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From:"Debian-user" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[ Add to Address Book | Block Address | Report as Spam ]
Subject:Changes..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MIME-Version:   1.0
Content-Type:   multipart/mixed;

boundary="xopocqfutjsamolnbamw"
X-FII-Tracking: 0.261194

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Here is the reverse DNS info:
141.151.76.183 PTR record: pool-141-151-76-183.phil.east.verizon.net. 
[TTL 86400s] [A=141.151.76.183]

I just wanted to warn people about forged headers, The E-mail had an 
vbs attachment with it, which is even more funny.  Anyway be aware of 
forged headers, this is the first I have seen, I will keep the 
E-mail, is their anything I can do to help stop this. I gave up on 
emailing abuse as most times it does not work, or return address is 
wrong.

Rthorea


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