Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-25 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day, Gábor.


You wrote:

 I run the autoremove and I reinstall packages which I need again so
 this question not question now.

Or You could simply mark them as being manually installed.


Sthu.


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Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hi,

When I run the command apt-get autoremove it wants to remove 115
packages, for example network-manager, network-manager-gnome,
software-center, update-manager-core, update-manager-gnome,
update-notifier,
  update-notifier-common.

But I don't want to remove these because I think they are important
system packages. Don't they are?

Why autroremove wants to remove they now?

I was know that autoremove usually helps cleaning my system safely so
I used it a lot before without problem.

Thanks


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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 sep 12, 10:38:47, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
 Hi,
 
 When I run the command apt-get autoremove it wants to remove 115
 packages, for example network-manager, network-manager-gnome,
 software-center, update-manager-core, update-manager-gnome,
 update-notifier,
   update-notifier-common.
 
 But I don't want to remove these because I think they are important
 system packages. Don't they are?
 
 Why autroremove wants to remove they now?

You probably removed some (meta)package that depended on those packages.

 I was know that autoremove usually helps cleaning my system safely so
 I used it a lot before without problem.

If it were so safe the operation would have been performed 
automatically, don't you think[1]?

It's not going to destroy your system[2], but I wouldn't run the 
sequence

apt-get autoremove  apt-get clean

from a cronjob ;)

[1] aptitude does, but it can be argued that it's primary mode of 
operation is the interactive one, where the admin can still decide to 
mark some packages as manually installed before proceeding.
[2] e.g. Essential: yes packages will never be removed in the default 
configuration

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
2012/9/22 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:
 On Sb, 22 sep 12, 10:38:47, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
 Hi,

 When I run the command apt-get autoremove it wants to remove 115
 packages, for example network-manager, network-manager-gnome,
 software-center, update-manager-core, update-manager-gnome,
 update-notifier,
   update-notifier-common.

 But I don't want to remove these because I think they are important
 system packages. Don't they are?

 Why autroremove wants to remove they now?

 You probably removed some (meta)package that depended on those packages.

 I was know that autoremove usually helps cleaning my system safely so
 I used it a lot before without problem.

 If it were so safe the operation would have been performed
 automatically, don't you think[1]?

 It's not going to destroy your system[2], but I wouldn't run the
 sequence

 apt-get autoremove  apt-get clean

 from a cronjob ;)

 [1] aptitude does, but it can be argued that it's primary mode of
 operation is the interactive one, where the admin can still decide to
 mark some packages as manually installed before proceeding.
 [2] e.g. Essential: yes packages will never be removed in the default
 configuration

 Kind regards,
 Andrei
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It's not going to destroy your system[2], but I wouldn't run the
sequence

apt-get autoremove  apt-get clean

from a cronjob ;) - So I should leave these packages there and leave
running these commands?


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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Wayne Topa

On 09/22/2012 04:38 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:

Hi,

When I run the command apt-get autoremove it wants to remove 115
packages, for example network-manager, network-manager-gnome,
software-center, update-manager-core, update-manager-gnome,
update-notifier,
   update-notifier-common.

But I don't want to remove these because I think they are important
system packages. Don't they are?

Why autroremove wants to remove they now?

I was know that autoremove usually helps cleaning my system safely so
I used it a lot before without problem.


The apt-get man page describes that quite well.

Please use the tools installed on your system.

man apt-get
  autoremove
autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically installed 
to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no longer needed.


Also see  autoclean for less destructive alternative.

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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 sep 12, 10:45:40, Wayne Topa wrote:
 The apt-get man page describes that quite well.
 
 Please use the tools installed on your system.
 
 man apt-get
   autoremove
 autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically
 installed to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no
 longer needed.
 
 Also see  autoclean for less destructive alternative.

Could you please elaborate?

Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 22 sep 12, 12:41:34, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
 
 It's not going to destroy your system[2], but I wouldn't run the
 sequence
 
 apt-get autoremove  apt-get clean
 
 from a cronjob ;) - So I should leave these packages there and leave
 running these commands?

I would suggest you use 'apt-mark' to keep what packages you need and 
then 'autoremove' the rest.

If in doubt about a particular package read the long description 
carefully (apt-cache show package) and ask here if you don't 
understand something.

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Re: Apt-get autoremove question

2012-09-22 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
2012/9/22 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com:
 On Sb, 22 sep 12, 10:45:40, Wayne Topa wrote:
 The apt-get man page describes that quite well.

 Please use the tools installed on your system.

 man apt-get
   autoremove
 autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically
 installed to satisfy dependencies for other packages and are now no
 longer needed.

 Also see  autoclean for less destructive alternative.

 Could you please elaborate?

 Kind regards,
 Andrei
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I run the autoremove and I reinstall packages which I need again so
this question not question now...

Thanks everybody...


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