Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread ZephyrQ
Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb 
 on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be 
aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).



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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread Michael M. Moore
On Sat, 2009-06-13 at 13:03 -0500, ZephyrQ wrote:
 Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb 
   on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be 
 aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).

What might be a major issue for you might not be a major issue for me,
or visa-versa.  I'm not having any major issues with Squeeze (yet), but
that doesn't mean something you think of as critical to Your Debian
Experience isn't hopelessly borked in Squeeze.

In short, it's all relative. :-)

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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread thveillon.debian
ZephyrQ wrote:
 Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb
  on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be
 aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).
 
 

Hi, I have been running testing since Etch, and if most of the time
everything is running just fine (watch apt-listbugs and
apt-listchanges), I did occasionally run into some tricky breakage (xorg
related mostly, multimedia packages too).
Right now I have mktemp package obsolete in Squeeze, and labeled
dummy in Unstable, but if I remove it the system is broken since the
coreutils package that should bring a mktemp replacement isn't yet in
Testing... (see mktemp bugs tracker)
That's the kind of things you might encounter, be ready to diagnose/fix
it and you'll be a happy Testing user as I am.

Cheers,

Tom


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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread Lorenzo Beretta

thveillon.debian ha scritto:

ZephyrQ wrote:

Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb
 on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be
aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).




Hi, I have been running testing since Etch, and if most of the time
everything is running just fine (watch apt-listbugs and
apt-listchanges), I did occasionally run into some tricky breakage (xorg
related mostly, multimedia packages too).
Right now I have mktemp package obsolete in Squeeze, and labeled
dummy in Unstable, but if I remove it the system is broken since the
coreutils package that should bring a mktemp replacement isn't yet in
Testing... (see mktemp bugs tracker)
That's the kind of things you might encounter, be ready to diagnose/fix
it and you'll be a happy Testing user as I am.

Cheers,

Tom




sudo apt-get install reportbug
== it will warn you of known bugs everytime you install/upgrade, so you 
can avoid broken versions (the idea being that broken stuff gets noticed 
by debian veterans running sid)



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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4a341413$0$18925$4fafb...@reader2.news.tin.it, Lorenzo Beretta wrote:
thveillon.debian ha scritto:
 ZephyrQ wrote:
 Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put
 Deb on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should
 be aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).
sudo apt-get install reportbug
== it will warn you of known bugs everytime you install/upgrade, so you
can avoid broken versions (the idea being that broken stuff gets noticed
by debian veterans running sid)

I think you mean:
sudo aptitude install apt-listbugs

reportbug is for filing new bugs.
apt-listbugs is for finding existing bugs.
aptitude is the preferred package manager (over apt-get) since Etch.
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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread ZephyrQ

I appreciate the input, Squeeze it is...but...

I'm playing with an Athlon 64-bit processor (LE-1620 specifically) and 
need to download an image...which one?


I'm looking at the How-to(s) but they seem to be out of date and I would 
like to know if I should go full 64bit or stick with the 32bit image.


As far as I know, I am not running any unusual software that isn't 
currently supported...


Thanks to all for your input...

ZephyrQ wrote:
Just picked up a BBuy cheapo that I will lather/rinse/repeat and put Deb 
 on...just wondering if testing has any major issues that I should be 
aware of before I make the jump (my main system runs stable).






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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread Suno Ano

 Zephyrq I'm playing with an Athlon 64-bit processor (LE-1620
 Zephyrq specifically) and need to download an image...which one?

Here is info on how to install Debian testing from an USB stick:

http://sunoano.name/ws/public_xhtml/debian_notes_cheat_sheets.html#install_debian_from_USB_stick

64bit is perfectly fine and works like charm if you do not need some
non-mainstream software (in which case you simply need to test i.e. it
will probably work too)


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Re: Are there any major issues with Debian testing?

2009-06-13 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 4a346517.3040...@sbcglobal.net, ZephyrQ wrote:
I'm playing with an Athlon 64-bit processor (LE-1620 specifically) and
need to download an image...which one?

I'm looking at the How-to(s) but they seem to be out of date and I would
like to know if I should go full 64bit or stick with the 32bit image.

As far as I know, I am not running any unusual software that isn't
currently supported...

How much RAM to you have?  If more than 3GiB, use a 64-bit kernel.
How much RAM will a single application need to address?  If 4GB or more[1], 
use a 64-bit userland.

Very few applications benefit significantly from the expanded registers in 
64-bit mode.  If you have one of those, use a 64-bit userland.

64-bit userland -- amd64 a.k.a. x86_64 a.k.a em64t image
32-bit userland -- x86 image

I *think* a 64-bit kernel is available on the x86 mirrors, but I'm not 
entirely sure.  You can always compile your own if need be.
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In 32-bit userland they can address 4GiB minus some overhead.  I estimate 
about 4GB, here.


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