Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-31 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:15:23AM -0600, Kent West ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Rob Weir wrote:
> >On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> >
> >>I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
> >>following:

> >>12345/tcp  openNetBus 
> >>12346/tcp  openNetBus 
> >>27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
> >>31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register

> >>Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
> >>similar?

> Looks like it may just be part of portsentry. Thanks!
> 
> >westek[westk]:/home/westk> sudo netstat -ntuple
> >Active Internet connections (only servers)
> >Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address 
> >State   User   Inode  PID/Program name  
> >tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:1   0.0.0.0:*   
> >LISTEN  0  2168   701/portsentry 
> >tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:20034   0.0.0.0:*   
> >LISTEN  0  2201   701/portsentry 
> >tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:32771   0.0.0.0:*   

One of the annoying aspects of portsentry is that it opens the ports it
listens on.  This can lead to false-positive alerts when scanning your
own systems.

Snort is another package which detects traffic on ports but doesn't open
them.  I'd recommend it as an alternative.

Peace.

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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread Kent West
Dave Sherohman wrote:


On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 

Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
similar?
   


That's exactly what it is.  portsentry listens on every
commonly-recognized port that doesn't already have something running
there and reports any connections it receives.  If you want to know
what's really listening on your machine (whether via netstat, nmap,
or whatever else), you need to shut down portsentry first.

 


Thanks!


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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:43, Kent West wrote:
> I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
> following:
> 
>  . . .
> 
> 12345/tcp  openNetBus 
> 12346/tcp  openNetBus 
> 27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
> 31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register
> 31337/tcp  openElite  
> 31337/udp  openBackOrifice
> 32770/udp  opensometimes-rpc4 
> 
>  . . .
> 
> 
> 
> Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
> similar?

Shouldn't you run nmap on $EXTERN_IP, instead of localhost?  I could
care less what ports that localhost is listening to...

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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
> similar?

That's exactly what it is.  portsentry listens on every
commonly-recognized port that doesn't already have something running
there and reports any connections it receives.  If you want to know
what's really listening on your machine (whether via netstat, nmap,
or whatever else), you need to shut down portsentry first.

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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread Kent West
Rob Weir wrote:


On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
 

I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
following:

. . .

12345/tcp  openNetBus 
12346/tcp  openNetBus 
27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register
31337/tcp  openElite  
31337/udp  openBackOrifice
32770/udp  opensometimes-rpc4 

. . .



Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
similar?
   


No idea.  nmap, amazing as it is, isn't the only tool you need though.
Try running 'netstat -ntuple' to see which programs are actually
listening, according to the kernel.  Of course, netstat could have been
replaced with a trojaned version, and your kernel could have been messed
with, but, otherwise it'll show you what programs are listening on
your ports...

-rob
 

Looks like it may just be part of portsentry. Thanks!


westek[westk]:/home/westk> sudo netstat -ntuple
Active Internet connections (only servers)
Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address   Foreign Address 
State   User   Inode  PID/Program name  
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:1   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2168   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:20034   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2201   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:32771   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2207   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:32772   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2209   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:40421   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2215   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:32773   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2211   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:901 0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  496364/inetd  
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:32774   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2213   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:31337   0.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2205   701/portsentry 
tcp0  0 0.0.0.0:66670.0.0.0:*   
LISTEN  0  2195   701/portsentry 





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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
> following:
> 
> . . .
> 
> 12345/tcp  openNetBus 
> 12346/tcp  openNetBus 
> 27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
> 31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register
> 31337/tcp  openElite  
> 31337/udp  openBackOrifice
> 32770/udp  opensometimes-rpc4 
> 
> . . .
> 
> 
> 
> Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
> similar?

No idea.  nmap, amazing as it is, isn't the only tool you need though.
Try running 'netstat -ntuple' to see which programs are actually
listening, according to the kernel.  Of course, netstat could have been
replaced with a trojaned version, and your kernel could have been messed
with, but, otherwise it'll show you what programs are listening on
your ports...

-rob



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Re: BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-29 Thread UnKnown
You may have install the fakebo package it is design to implemente a fake
Back Orifice, to capture attacks of this tipe to your network. Any way run 
a netstat -p to see wich process is using that port.

Cheers,
rak

On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 04:43:51PM -0600, Kent West wrote:
> I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
> following:
> 
> . . .
> 
> 12345/tcp  openNetBus 
> 12346/tcp  openNetBus 
> 27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
> 31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register
> 31337/tcp  openElite  
> 31337/udp  openBackOrifice
> 32770/udp  opensometimes-rpc4 
> 
> . . .
> 
> 
> 
> Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
> similar?
> 
> Sweating just a bit,
> Kent
> 
> 
> 
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BackOrifice on Linux?

2003-01-28 Thread Kent West
I just ran the command "sudo nmap  -sT -sU localhost" which listed the 
following:

. . .

12345/tcp  openNetBus 
12346/tcp  openNetBus 
27665/tcp  openTrinoo_Master  
31335/udp  openTrinoo_Register
31337/tcp  openElite  
31337/udp  openBackOrifice
32770/udp  opensometimes-rpc4 

. . .



Should I be concerned, or is this maybe part of portsentry or something 
similar?

Sweating just a bit,
Kent




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