Slight correction was Re: Before I install Debian

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 12 February 2017 20:40:40 Lisi Reisz wrote:
> and didn't read carefully enough.

and *** I *** didn't read carefully enough.  (As it stands it is open to being 
misread.)

Lisi

Re: Before I install Debian

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 12 February 2017 13:44:02 Sven Hartge wrote:
> >> I think the main point is being missed.
> >
> > Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary
> > program belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.
>
> No, the question was, if it is available "with Debian", not if it would
> run "on Debian". And the answer is "no", it is and was never available
> with (or from) Debian.

I was careless with my prepositions.  Sorry.  Though the answer remains 
effectively the same in this case!!  I think the OP actually meant "on" (I 
don't think he cared who supplied it!), and didn't read carefully enough.

Lisi

Re: Before I install Debian

[Sven Hartge]

Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> On Sunday 12 February 2017 02:49:41 John Culleton wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700 Bob Holtzman  wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
 On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> John Culleton  wrote:

>> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
>> with Debian?
> No.

>> I think the main point is being missed. 

> Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
> belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.

No, the question was, if it is available "with Debian", not if it would
run "on Debian". And the answer is "no", it is and was never available
with (or from) Debian.

It is also no longer officially supported or available for Linux from
Adobe on their official website. Go to
https://get.adobe.com/de/reader/otherversions/ and try to select "Linux"
as OS.

And the Debian package on their FTP server, containing an old and
outdated, security vulnerable version, may only still be there because
someone forgot to remove it, it could be gone tomorrow.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: Before I install Debian

[GiaThnYgeia]

Lisi Reisz:
>> I think the main point is being missed. 
> 
> Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
> belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.
> 
> Other people found that too short and are trying to find a way to help.  You 
> have your answer.  Modern Adobe Acrobat will not run on Debian.

if one was looking for salespeople in debian to satisfy their minimum
expectations in order to buy it, he/she would have missed the whole point.

1 A tax reviewer that would only "sell" service if the customer
satisfied their demands is one that would least likely have human input
in whether what is submitted or not is valid.  The machine will take as
valid an expense of 129,99 as 12999 if that is how it was entered, your
tax will be less and it will not be the adobe client's fault.  A real
auditor would inquire on the validity of a 13 thousand gas receipt.

2 The security of your private tax information will be transmitted
through win-dose pseudo-security by a pseudo software's internal
encoding to some insecure server (unless it is based on linux which can
handle security well from the doorstep and inwards).

3  I think the decision of the system should be based on a better and
wider overall look of the big picture.  These good people here are not
able to make tax-related decisions for anyone. I am among those who have
been helped and eager to know enough to help others.  The problem with
adobe is not one that could be addressed here, but I am trying to
establish that the problem is not with adobe's products but with those
who have taken the blackmail and internalized it.  Imagine being on
death row for all the wrong reasons, for not shooting the deputy only
the sheriff, and the only way to appeal is by submitting a form through
acrobat.  And there may come a day where running and distributing linux
may become illegal.  How many of us will still be here to help.

> You can either try out some of the suggestions or not try out some of the 
> suggestions.  But you have your answer.

Yes.

> Lisi

Doesn't that android thing have acrobat in it, probably for a fee?  I
would just get a second hand generic tablet just for that purpose  and
leave it half charged and off the remaining time.  It would be more
secure than trying to keep your private information in the online pc you
use daily.  If you can't spare 50 bucks for a tablet chances are you
don't need an accounting service or filing taxes probably :)

Katrin

PS  Have you watched Brazil?  Are you a Microsoft executive?

-- 
 "The most violent element in society is ignorance" rEG

Re: Before I install Debian

[Lisi Reisz]

On Sunday 12 February 2017 02:49:41 John Culleton wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700
>
> Bob Holtzman  wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> > > On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> > > >John Culleton  wrote:
> > > >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > > >>with Debian?
> > > >
> > > >No.
> > > >
> > > >Grüße,
> > > >Sven.
> > >
> > > Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?
> >
> > It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
> > They are, however, closed source.
>
> I think the main point is being missed. 

Yes, by you.  You asked whether Adobe Acrobat, which is a proprietary program 
belonging to Adobe, would run on Debian.  Sven said no.

Other people found that too short and are trying to find a way to help.  You 
have your answer.  Modern Adobe Acrobat will not run on Debian.

You can either try out some of the suggestions or not try out some of the 
suggestions.  But you have your answer.

Lisi

> I have Okular and xpdf. The 
> company's software would only work with Adobe. As for the edition 7
> web site I don't remember where I found it. I can look
> again if it is neededful.

Re: Before I install Debian

[John Culleton]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:13:20 -0700
Bob Holtzman  wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:  
> > >John Culleton  wrote:
> > >  
> > >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > >>with Debian?  
> > >No.
> > >
> > >Grüße,
> > >Sven.
> > >  
> > Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?  
> 
> It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
> They are, however, closed source.
> 


I think the main point is being missed. I have Okular and xpdf. The
company's software would only work with Adobe. As for the edition 7
web site I don't remember where I found it. I can look
again if it is neededful.
-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.

Re: Before I install Debian

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 11/02/17 10:09, Floris wrote:

but the default pdf-reader in Debian is Evince


Perhaps for Gnome, but not for all desktops supported in Debian. I use 
qpdfview under XFCE.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Before I install Debian

[deloptes]

Patrick Bartek wrote:

> And no guarantee it will work 100% with
> today's PDF generated files.

It works

Re: Before I install Debian

[Bob Holtzman]

On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 03:54:34PM -0500, Doug wrote:
> 
> 
> On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:
> >John Culleton  wrote:
> >
> >>All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
> >>Debian?
> >No.
> >
> >Grüße,
> >Sven.
> >
> Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?

It's better than Adobe in that they have a current version for linux.
They are, however, closed source.

-- 
Bob  Holtzman

"Bother", said Pooh, as he chambered another round...

Re: Before I install Debian

[Brian]

On Sat 11 Feb 2017 at 14:27:20 -0500, John Culleton wrote:

> The culprit in this case is the online company who does my taxes.
> They send them direct to the Feds and the State of Maryland but offer
> me the opportunity to view them on line and print them out for my files.

A good service.

> But these functions  on their system are inoperable unless my web
> browser can use Adobe Acrobat Reader. I finally found a free copy of
> AAR 7 that was in source form which I compiled and somehow Firefox
> could employ. The problem was solved. They absolutely would not just

The source code for AAR is available? URL, please.

> send me the pdf files. Security was their rationale. The Cups system

Security doesn't bother them when they email an invoice to you?

-- 
Brian.

Re: Before I install Debian

[John Culleton]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:

> Have I missed something here?
> 
> .pdf files are portable,  right?
> 
> 
> How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
> specific program to read them?
> 
> Keith Bainbridge
> 
> 0447667468
> 
> keithrbaugro...@gmail.com
> 
> Sent from my APad
> 
> On 11 Feb 2017 07:40, "John Culleton"  wrote:
> 
> > All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > with Debian?
> >
> > --
> > John Culleton
> > Wexfordpress
> > Book design and indexing.
> >
> >
> >  

The culprit in this case is the online company who does my taxes.
They send them direct to the Feds and the State of Maryland but offer
me the opportunity to view them on line and print them out for my files.
But these functions  on their system are inoperable unless my web
browser can use Adobe Acrobat Reader. I finally found a free copy of
AAR 7 that was in source form which I compiled and somehow Firefox
could employ. The problem was solved. They absolutely would not just
send me the pdf files. Security was their rationale. The Cups system
that comes with Slack 14.1 won't work with my printer
(though it will print test pages, go figure) so I booted 
Knoppix 7.6 and printed the pages one at a time. But that is another
story. Cups works for others and prior versions (like on Knoppix) work
for me..

My taxes are filed and I have paper copies. Next year I may just get the
paper forms and fill them out manually.
-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.

Re: Before I install Debian

[rhkramer]

Thanks for accepting that in the good (I hope, or at I tried) humor that was 
intended!

regards,
Randy Kramer

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 08:52:49 AM Michael Lange wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:00:08 -0500
> 
> rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I should resist, but the chance to make two (or three?) smart ass
> > comments to one post is tough to resist--no offense intended to
> > anybody.  Sorry!
> > 
> > On Saturday, February 11, 2017 07:32:44 AM Michael Lange wrote:
> > > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:27:12 -0500
> > > 
> > > Doug  wrote:
> > > > I hope that you never send me anything, because I guarantee I won't
> > > > read it! This sounds like the worst possible advertising scheme!
> > > 
> > > Seems like you confuse something here: I am *not* the CEO of Adobe,
> > > just wanted to hint at what they are doing.
> > 
> > Perhaps he was promoting you, or offering you the promotion ;-)  (If
> > so, you should take it, and change their business model (or, go over to
> > the dark side yourself ;-)
> 
> Haha, good one :-)
> 
> > > A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even
> > > his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive.
> > > 
> > >   -- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown
> > 
> > See, this is the problem I have with incomplete attributions--without a
> > specified stardate it smacks of something made up--i.e., fiction. How
> > are we to know what to believe? ;-)
> 
> This one, too :-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> .-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.
> 
> A Vulcan can no sooner be disloyal than he can exist without breathing.
>   -- Kirk, "The Menagerie", stardate 3012.4

Re: Before I install Debian

[Michael Lange]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 08:00:08 -0500
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I should resist, but the chance to make two (or three?) smart ass
> comments to one post is tough to resist--no offense intended to
> anybody.  Sorry!
> 
> On Saturday, February 11, 2017 07:32:44 AM Michael Lange wrote:
> > On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:27:12 -0500
> > Doug  wrote:
> > > I hope that you never send me anything, because I guarantee I won't
> > > read it! This sounds like the worst possible advertising scheme!
> > 
> > Seems like you confuse something here: I am *not* the CEO of Adobe,
> > just wanted to hint at what they are doing.
> 
> Perhaps he was promoting you, or offering you the promotion ;-)  (If
> so, you should take it, and change their business model (or, go over to
> the dark side yourself ;-)
> 

Haha, good one :-)

> > A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even
> > his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive.
> > -- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown
> 
> See, this is the problem I have with incomplete attributions--without a 
> specified stardate it smacks of something made up--i.e., fiction. How
> are we to know what to believe? ;-)

This one, too :-)

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

A Vulcan can no sooner be disloyal than he can exist without breathing.
-- Kirk, "The Menagerie", stardate 3012.4

Re: Before I install Debian

[rhkramer]

I should resist, but the chance to make two (or three?) smart ass comments to 
one post is tough to resist--no offense intended to anybody.  Sorry!

On Saturday, February 11, 2017 07:32:44 AM Michael Lange wrote:
> On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:27:12 -0500
> Doug  wrote:
> > I hope that you never send me anything, because I guarantee I won't
> > read it! This sounds like the worst possible advertising scheme!
> 
> Seems like you confuse something here: I am *not* the CEO of Adobe, just
> wanted to hint at what they are doing.

Perhaps he was promoting you, or offering you the promotion ;-)  (If so, you 
should take it, and change their business model (or, go over to the dark side 
yourself ;-)

> A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even
> his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive.
>   -- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown

See, this is the problem I have with incomplete attributions--without a 
specified stardate it smacks of something made up--i.e., fiction. How are we to 
know what to believe? ;-)

Re: Before I install Debian

[Michael Lange]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:27:12 -0500
Doug  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 02/10/2017 08:11 PM, Michael Lange wrote:
> > On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
> > Keith Bainbridge  wrote:
> >
> >> Have I missed something here?
> >>
> >> .pdf files are portable,  right?
> >>
> >>
> >> How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
> >> specific program to read them?
> > Maybe by adding a "feature" that is supported by your reader software
> > exclusively?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael
> >
> I hope that you never send me anything, because I guarantee I won't
> read it! This sounds like the worst possible advertising scheme!

Seems like you confuse something here: I am *not* the CEO of Adobe, just
wanted to hint at what they are doing.

Regards

Michael


.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even
his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive.
-- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown

Re: Before I install Debian

[Joe]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 02:10:00 +
GiaThnYgeia  wrote:


> 
> I have yet to find a single pdf document (and for many languages) that
> can not be handled for reading by the document-viewer (evince) open
> and free.

I received one from my accountant last week. Having confirmed none of
my Linux software would see it (a multi-page government form, with the
text on all pages after the first completely garbled) I had to fire up
the Windows laptop and use Adobe Reader.

In the past, I've had loads of documents that stopped evince dead, many
created by open-source software (gEDA, libreCAD). I think it's better
now.

>  There are also libre and other plugins that handle
> importing a pdf in other formats, but even as pdf pictures some
> open-free ocr may read them with small percentage of loss and need
> for editing/correcting. If you can see it on the screen then it is at
> least a digital picture.
> 
But you would not expect a PHP 5.0 script to run on version 3.0 of PHP.
If it was a simple script it might, with minor errors, but anything
which used major new features would not have a chance.

> Yes, this would be a huge task for a huge amount of documents.  And
> then there is wine and vm of running other systems' software.

Which requires a licence to run the other system, which you may not
have. Pretty much only the retail professional versions of Windows are
licenced for use in a VM, neither home nor OEM versions can (generally)
do so legally. This may not worry some people.

>  The
> very logic of adobe's foundation is very much in clash with the linux
> logic and philosophy, at least that is why I am here and not there.

Adobe is a commercial business. Its revenue comes from selling software.

> And I know very little about how things work.  I did much research on
> which system to choose and it was the debian manifesto that sold me,
> not the technical details.  If debian fails so does the need for
> computing, for me at least.  I can go back to planting seeds the
> analog way.  If the adobes prevail we are in deeper trouble than we
> may think.  And it is not always about winning, but fighting an
> honorable battle that matters.

It is not a battle which can be won. Always, to solve a problem with a
computer you:

a) define the task
b) find the application which will complete the task
c) find the operating system which will run the application
d) find the physical hardware which can support OS and application

There may be a bit of iteration, there may be alternatives, and the task
may have to be redefined a bit. But there is little scope for relaxing
the requirements of a task which says 'display/print this document
file'.

d) is pretty much always a modern PC, but c) may still vary. But there
will always be some tasks which require Windows, sometimes in order to
run other completely proprietary software. Many people can structure
their lives so as not to need to carry out any of these tasks, but not
all of us can.

-- 
Joe

Re: Before I install Debian

[Curt]

On 2017-02-10, John Culleton  wrote:
>
> My tax company insists on Adobe. I hve spend three days fighting
> this problem. Installed Windoze 7 but it couldn't get on line.
> Anyone have a linux Adobe Acrobat Reader. I had it once but the computer
> died.
>

I have the Adobe Reader because I need it to fill out a tax-related form that
cannot be filled out with any other pdf software.

-- 
“It is enough that the arrows fit exactly in the wounds that they have made.”
Franz Kafka

Re: Before I install Debian

[Joe]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:

> Have I missed something here?
> 
> .pdf files are portable,  right?
> 

PDF is a container format, using a Post-Script-like language. PS was
originally developed as a page description language for use with laser
printers, and PDF evolved from that.

> 
> How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
> specific program to read them?
> 
You can define new program extensions. You can't stop other writers
from reverse engineering them, but the process is inevitably one of
catch-up.

-- 
Joe

Re: Before I install Debian

[Doug]

On 02/10/2017 08:11 PM, Michael Lange wrote:

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:


Have I missed something here?

.pdf files are portable,  right?


How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
specific program to read them?

Maybe by adding a "feature" that is supported by your reader software
exclusively?

Regards

Michael


I hope that you never send me anything, because I guarantee I won't read it!
This sounds like the worst possible advertising scheme!

--doug

Re: Before I install Debian

[GiaThnYgeia]

David Wright:
> On Sat 11 Feb 2017 at 02:11:38 (+0100), Michael Lange wrote:
>> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
>> Keith Bainbridge  wrote:
>>> How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
>>> specific program to read them?
>> Maybe by adding a "feature" that is supported by your reader software
>> exclusively?
> For example,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#XML_Forms_Data_Format_.28XFDF.29
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA#Usage_with_Portable_Document_Format
> Cheers,
> David.

I have yet to find a single pdf document (and for many languages) that
can not be handled for reading by the document-viewer (evince) open and
free.  There are also libre and other plugins that handle importing a
pdf in other formats, but even as pdf pictures some open-free ocr may
read them with small percentage of loss and need for editing/correcting.
If you can see it on the screen then it is at least a digital picture.

Yes, this would be a huge task for a huge amount of documents.  And then
there is wine and vm of running other systems' software.  The very logic
of adobe's foundation is very much in clash with the linux logic and
philosophy, at least that is why I am here and not there.  And I know
very little about how things work.  I did much research on which system
to choose and it was the debian manifesto that sold me, not the
technical details.  If debian fails so does the need for computing, for
me at least.  I can go back to planting seeds the analog way.  If the
adobes prevail we are in deeper trouble than we may think.  And it is
not always about winning, but fighting an honorable battle that matters.

Katrin

Re: Before I install Debian

[David Wright]

On Sat 11 Feb 2017 at 02:11:38 (+0100), Michael Lange wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
> Keith Bainbridge  wrote:
> 
> > Have I missed something here?
> > 
> > .pdf files are portable,  right?
> > 
> > 
> > How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
> > specific program to read them?
> 
> Maybe by adding a "feature" that is supported by your reader software
> exclusively?

For example,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portable_Document_Format#XML_Forms_Data_Format_.28XFDF.29

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XFA#Usage_with_Portable_Document_Format

Cheers,
David.

Re: Before I install Debian

[Michael Lange]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:32:45 +1100
Keith Bainbridge  wrote:

> Have I missed something here?
> 
> .pdf files are portable,  right?
> 
> 
> How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a
> specific program to read them?

Maybe by adding a "feature" that is supported by your reader software
exclusively?

Regards

Michael

.-.. .. ...- .   .-.. --- -. --.   .- -. -..   .--. .-. --- ... .--. . .-.

Each kiss is as the first.
-- Miramanee, Kirk's wife, "The Paradise Syndrome",
   stardate 4842.6

Re: Before I install Debian

[Keith Bainbridge]

Have I missed something here?

.pdf files are portable,  right?


How can I as a creator specify that you as the reader MUST use a specific
program to read them?

Keith Bainbridge

0447667468

keithrbaugro...@gmail.com

Sent from my APad

On 11 Feb 2017 07:40, "John Culleton"  wrote:

> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> with Debian?
>
> --
> John Culleton
> Wexfordpress
> Book design and indexing.
>
>
>

Re: Before I install Debian

[Patrick Bartek]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 15:39:20 -0500 John Culleton
 wrote:

> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> with Debian?  

Kind of.

Available only from Adobe, and it's very old -- 5 years IIRC.  And
32-bit only!  If you run a 64-bit system, you'll need to setup
multi-architecture for 32-bit.  And no guarantee it will work 100% with
today's PDF generated files.

B

Re: Before I install Debian

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 02/10/2017 12:39 PM, John Culleton wrote:

All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
with Debian?


From PDF-Debian Wiki; If you really need Adobe's Acrobat Reader, which 
is non-free, it is available from ftp.adobe.com or the 
deb-multimedia.org repository.

Get the details here; https://wiki.debian.org/PDF
--
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Stretch - Plasma 5.8.4 - EXT4 at sda11
Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Before I install Debian

[Joe]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:12:34 -0500
John Culleton  wrote:

> On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:04:35 +1300
> Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:
> 
> > On 11/02/17 09:39, John Culleton wrote:  
> > > All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > > with Debian?
> > 
> > What functionality do you need? I suggest trying a Debian Live image
> > and evaluating some of the many open source PDF readers.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> >   
> 
> My tax company insists on Adobe. I hve spend three days fighting
> this problem. Installed Windoze 7 but it couldn't get on line.
> Anyone have a linux Adobe Acrobat Reader. I had it once but the
> computer died.
> 

I don't think there's been a recent version for Linux.

Adobe push the use of their specialised extensions for editing and
signing forms, and in general even the other Windows PDF software
doesn't handle them well.

-- 
Joe

Re: Before I install Debian

[Jude DaShiell]

I wonder are org-mode pdf exports good enough to pass for adobe pdf 
files?  It's possible with org-mode to write up an org-mode document and 
then export that to a pdf file.  I do know for sure such pdf files are 
not accessible (cannot talk) but I don't know about any other failings. 
emacs-orgmode-requ...@gnu.org is the admin address to subscribe to 
emacs-orgmode support list and you'd be able to find out just how good 
the pdf files are org-mode produces on that list if you don't get an 
answer here first.


On Fri, 10 Feb 2017, John Culleton wrote:


Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 16:12:34
From: John Culleton 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Before I install Debian
Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:13:25 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:04:35 +1300
Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:


On 11/02/17 09:39, John Culleton wrote:

All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
with Debian?


What functionality do you need? I suggest trying a Debian Live image
and evaluating some of the many open source PDF readers.

Kind regards,



My tax company insists on Adobe. I hve spend three days fighting
this problem. Installed Windoze 7 but it couldn't get on line.
Anyone have a linux Adobe Acrobat Reader. I had it once but the computer
died.




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Re: Before I install Debian

[Floris]

Op Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:12:34 +0100 schreef John Culleton  
:



On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:04:35 +1300
Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:


On 11/02/17 09:39, John Culleton wrote:
> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> with Debian?

What functionality do you need? I suggest trying a Debian Live image
and evaluating some of the many open source PDF readers.

Kind regards,



My tax company insists on Adobe. I hve spend three days fighting
this problem. Installed Windoze 7 but it couldn't get on line.
Anyone have a linux Adobe Acrobat Reader. I had it once but the computer
died.



you can run Adobe Acrobat via wine

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=847

Re: Before I install Debian

[John Culleton]

On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 10:04:35 +1300
Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:

> On 11/02/17 09:39, John Culleton wrote:
> > All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
> > with Debian?  
> 
> What functionality do you need? I suggest trying a Debian Live image
> and evaluating some of the many open source PDF readers.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 

My tax company insists on Adobe. I hve spend three days fighting
this problem. Installed Windoze 7 but it couldn't get on line.
Anyone have a linux Adobe Acrobat Reader. I had it once but the computer
died.

-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.

Re: Before I install Debian

[Floris]

Op Fri, 10 Feb 2017 21:39:20 +0100 schreef John Culleton  
:



All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
with Debian?



a very old version is available from:
ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/9.x/9.5.5/enu/

but the default pdf-reader in Debian is Evince
https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evince

Floris

Re: Before I install Debian

[Ben Caradoc-Davies]

On 11/02/17 09:39, John Culleton wrote:

All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
with Debian?


What functionality do you need? I suggest trying a Debian Live image and 
evaluating some of the many open source PDF readers.


Kind regards,

--
Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Director
Transient Software Limited 
New Zealand

Re: Before I install Debian

[Doug]

On 02/10/2017 03:45 PM, Sven Hartge wrote:

John Culleton  wrote:


All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
Debian?

No.

Grüße,
Sven.


Have you looked at Master PDF Editor 4?

--doug

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Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both 
sides.--A.M,Greeley

Re: Before I install Debian

[Sven Hartge]

John Culleton  wrote:

> All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available with
> Debian?  

No.

Grüße,
Sven.

-- 
Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Before I install Debian

[John Culleton]

All I need from Debian is Adobe Acrobat Reader. Is this available
with Debian?  

-- 
John Culleton
Wexfordpress
Book design and indexing.