Re: Best Ethernet Card
On 12 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote: The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100. Anyone have any thoughts on those? I have the Intel EtherExpress 100 Pro, which is different from the regular one (requires a driver that is not currently distributed with Debian) and it goes fantastic. I tried it out on our Cisco Catalyst 5000 switch and got up to 90Mb transfers with a 100MB file. Even though the driver I have is only in alpha, we use it in production (on a major nameserver) and it has never put a foot wrong. 8---8 Richard Shepherd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 8---8 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Fredrik Ax wrote: The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100. Anyone have any thoughts on those? I'm using an EtherExpress 100 together with Linux. The only problem I've had, was finding the driver! It is (was?) not included in the Be careful. My brother had what we thought was the 100. It turned out (after searching Intel's Web page) that it was an EtherExpress 100 Pro. In the email words of author of the EE 100 driver, the EE Pro is different beast altogether and the driver won't work with it. bob -- Bob Billson, KC2WZemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] first year beekeeper, 2 colonies [EMAIL PROTECTED] (\ MS-DOS, you can't live with it. You can live without it./) {|||8- Linux: Resistance is futile ... -8|||} (/\) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
Raymond A. Ingles wrote: How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while... Jeff Noxon wrote: They use the DEC 2104x (10 Mb/s) or 2114x (100 Mb/s) chips. Just look at the card or the specs on the box. DEC, Linksys, Kingston, Cogent, Zynx, SMC, and many others sell cards using these chips. Also, the following URL lists cards reported to use the DEC 21040 chip http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html#other Other (newer?) cards may also use it, and manufacturers are always free to switch chipsets, so it's best to ask and make sure. -- Peter Galbraith, research scientist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maurice-Lamontagne Institute, Department of Fisheries and Oceans Canada P.O. Box 1000, Mont-Joli Qc, G5H 3Z4 Canada 418-775-0852 - FAX 418-775-0546 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On 12 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote: Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100. Anyone have any thoughts on those? I'm using an EtherExpress 100 together with Linux. The only problem I've had, was finding the driver! It is (was?) not included in the 2.0.30 kernel source code. I had to download it and compile it as an module by hand (which really wasn't a problem). But once installed it has worked great! /frax -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Jeff Noxon wrote: On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Dale Martin wrote: The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC Tulip based card. I do know from personal experience that the 3c905 has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one very soon. The Tulip cards seem to suffer from minimal braindamage. They are cheap and fast. Some people have driver problems which seem to be related to the way different models implement the SROM. I've 10-T cards from DEC, Kingston, and Linksys without any trouble at all. I would expect similar results from the 100Mb stuff. How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while... Sincerely, Ray Ingles (248) 377-7735 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Modern deductive method: 1) Devise hypothesis. 2) Apply for grant. 3) Perform experiments. 4) Revise hypothesis. 5) Backdate revised hypothesis. 6) Publish. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Mon, Sep 15, 1997 at 01:02:55PM -0400, Raymond A. Ingles wrote: How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while... They use the DEC 2104x (10 Mb/s) or 2114x (100 Mb/s) chips. Just look at the card or the specs on the box. DEC, Linksys, Kingston, Cogent, Zynx, SMC, and many others sell cards using these chips. Note that these manufacturers also offer cards using other chips, so be careful. The best thing to do (as always!) is to look at the source code for the driver and read the comments. Don't be afraid of source code! In this case, there are two drivers for Tulip chips: /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/de4x5.c - lists several compatible model numbers /usr/src/linux/drivers/net/tulip.c Even using the pictures in the catalog (assuming they are showing the correct product), one can often see the digital chip on the card. You can also call and ask... It should be part of the specs they have. Good luck, Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Best Ethernet Card
Hi! Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card will work without any problems. Thanks in advance! __ Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Leszek Gerwatowski wrote: Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card will work without any problems. I've been using 3COM 3C905-TX without any problems. No idea how it compares with others. -- Jean Pierre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Sep 12, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Leszek Gerwatowski wrote: Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card will work without any problems. I've been using 3COM 3C905-TX without any problems. No idea how it compares with others. However, there are known problems with the 3c905 as well. Under some situations/configurations, the 905 has some fairly severe problems. I have one, and unfortunately suffer from those problems (dropped packets, the driver/card freezes, and only resumes after dropping out of busmastering mode, etc.). I will say this, though, the turnaround time for driver releases is very fast. Donald Becker does a great job with driver releases. The problems I've been having are known, and are also supposedly rare. It seems like my problems are more the exception than the rule. I'm not trying to steer anyone away from the card, far from it, but the driver is not 100% perfect yet, either. What is, though. My $0.15 worth. (inflation's an evil thing) Paul Kuykendall -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi! Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card will work without any problems. Thanks in advance! The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC Tulip based card. I do know from personal experience that the 3c905 has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one very soon. The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100. Anyone have any thoughts on those? Later, Dale -- + finger for pgp public key -+ | Dale E. Martin | University of Cincinnati Savant Research Laboratory | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| http://www.ececs.uc.edu/~dmartin | +--+ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Best Ethernet Card
On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Dale Martin wrote: The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC Tulip based card. I do know from personal experience that the 3c905 has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one very soon. The Tulip cards seem to suffer from minimal braindamage. They are cheap and fast. Some people have driver problems which seem to be related to the way different models implement the SROM. I've 10-T cards from DEC, Kingston, and Linksys without any trouble at all. I would expect similar results from the 100Mb stuff. Jeff -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .