Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-17 Thread Richard L Shepherd
On 12 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
 recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100.  Anyone have any
 thoughts on those?

I have the Intel EtherExpress 100 Pro, which is different from the
regular one (requires a driver that is not currently distributed with
Debian) and it goes fantastic.  I tried it out on our Cisco Catalyst 5000
switch and got up to 90Mb transfers with a 100MB file.  Even though the
driver I have is only in alpha, we use it in production (on a major
nameserver) and it has never put a foot wrong.

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-16 Thread Bob Billson
On Mon, 15 Sep 1997, Fredrik Ax wrote:
 The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
 recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100.  Anyone have any
 thoughts on those?

I'm using an EtherExpress 100 together with Linux. The only problem 
I've had, was finding the driver! It is (was?) not included in the

Be careful.  My brother had what we thought was the 100.  It turned out
(after searching Intel's Web page) that it was an EtherExpress 100 Pro. 
In the email words of author of the EE 100 driver, the EE Pro is different
beast altogether and the driver won't work with it. 

bob
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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-16 Thread Peter S Galbraith

Raymond A. Ingles wrote:

  How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are 
 Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while...

Jeff Noxon wrote:
 
 They use the DEC 2104x (10 Mb/s) or 2114x (100 Mb/s) chips.  Just look
 at the card or the specs on the box.  DEC, Linksys, Kingston, Cogent,
 Zynx, SMC, and many others sell cards using these chips.

Also, the following URL lists cards reported to use the DEC 21040 chip

 http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/tulip.html#other

Other (newer?) cards may also use it, and manufacturers are always free
to switch chipsets, so it's best to ask and make sure.
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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-15 Thread Fredrik Ax
On 12 Sep 1997, Dale Martin wrote:

 Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
 recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100.  Anyone have any
 thoughts on those?
 

I'm using an EtherExpress 100 together with Linux. The only problem 
I've had, was finding the driver! It is (was?) not included in the
2.0.30 kernel source code. I had to download it and compile it as an
module by hand (which really wasn't a problem). But once installed
it has worked great!

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-15 Thread Raymond A. Ingles
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Jeff Noxon wrote:

 On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Dale Martin wrote:
  The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC
  Tulip based card.  I do know from personal experience that the 3c905
  has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one
  very soon.
 
 The Tulip cards seem to suffer from minimal braindamage.  They are cheap
 and fast.  Some people have driver problems which seem to be related to
 the way different models implement the SROM.  I've 10-T cards from DEC,
 Kingston, and Linksys without any trouble at all.  I would expect similar
 results from the 100Mb stuff.

 How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are 
Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while...

 Sincerely,

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-15 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Mon, Sep 15, 1997 at 01:02:55PM -0400,  Raymond A. Ingles wrote:
  How does one determine from minimal catalog info what cards are 
 Tulip-based? I've been trying to figure that out for a while...

They use the DEC 2104x (10 Mb/s) or 2114x (100 Mb/s) chips.  Just look
at the card or the specs on the box.  DEC, Linksys, Kingston, Cogent,
Zynx, SMC, and many others sell cards using these chips.  Note that these
manufacturers also offer cards using other chips, so be careful.

The best thing to do (as always!) is to look at the source code for
the driver and read the comments.  Don't be afraid of source code!
In this case, there are two drivers for Tulip chips:

/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/de4x5.c - lists several compatible model numbers
/usr/src/linux/drivers/net/tulip.c

Even using the pictures in the catalog (assuming they are showing the
correct product), one can often see the digital chip on the card.  You
can also call and ask...  It should be part of the specs they have.

Good luck,

Jeff


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Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-12 Thread Leszek Gerwatowski

Hi!

Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver
quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch
to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card
will work without any problems. 

Thanks in advance!

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-12 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Leszek Gerwatowski wrote:

 Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver
 quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch
 to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card
 will work without any problems. 

I've been using 3COM 3C905-TX without any problems.  No idea how it
compares with others.

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-12 Thread Paul Ryan Kuykendall
On Sep 12, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote
 On Fri, 12 Sep 1997, Leszek Gerwatowski wrote:
 
  Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver
  quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch
  to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card
  will work without any problems. 
 
 I've been using 3COM 3C905-TX without any problems.  No idea how it
 compares with others.

However, there are known problems with the 3c905 as well.  Under some
situations/configurations, the 905 has some fairly severe problems.  I
have one, and unfortunately suffer from those problems (dropped packets,
the driver/card freezes, and only resumes after dropping out of busmastering
mode, etc.).  I will say this, though, the turnaround time for driver releases
is very fast.  Donald Becker does a great job with driver releases.  The
problems I've been having are known, and are also supposedly rare.  It
seems like my problems are more the exception than the rule.

I'm not trying to steer anyone away from the card, far from it, but the
driver is  not 100% perfect yet, either.  What is, though.

My $0.15 worth. (inflation's an evil thing)

Paul Kuykendall


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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-12 Thread Dale Martin
Leszek Gerwatowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi!
 
 Can anyone tell me which 100MB Ethernet Card is best for Debian (driver
 quality, stability, support and also performance)? I'm planning to switch
 to 100MB Ethernet Network and want to be shure that my new network card
 will work without any problems. 
 
 Thanks in advance!

The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC
Tulip based card.  I do know from personal experience that the 3c905
has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one
very soon.

The other card I see mentioned a lot, but never see much as far as
recommendations, is the Intel EtherExpress 100.  Anyone have any
thoughts on those?

Later,
Dale

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Re: Best Ethernet Card

1997-09-12 Thread Jeff Noxon
On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 01:09:24PM -0400, Dale Martin wrote:
 The current wisdom says to avoid the 3com 3c905, and go with a DEC
 Tulip based card.  I do know from personal experience that the 3c905
 has problems - haven't tried a Tulip card yet, but will be using one
 very soon.

The Tulip cards seem to suffer from minimal braindamage.  They are cheap
and fast.  Some people have driver problems which seem to be related to
the way different models implement the SROM.  I've 10-T cards from DEC,
Kingston, and Linksys without any trouble at all.  I would expect similar
results from the 100Mb stuff.

Jeff


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