Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread deloptes
Kasper Loopstra wrote:

> What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this?

There are ports of Sailfish OS for x86 or if not suitable something around
nemomobile and the  like
https://sailfish-x86.yeheng.org/





Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 22:13, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
> On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote:
>> On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
>>> On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote:
 On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
> I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support
> launching external programs and/or webpages easily.
 I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions
 installed in order access external resources. Depending on where you
 are, cross-border `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in
 the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
 Cheers!

 Harry.
>>> Thanks. I've been looking at Kodi and trying to launch a webpage in
>>> Firefox, but that requires writing an extension apparently (all the
>>> existing ones are broken or won't run on the Debian version of Kodi).
>>> Trying the "Hello World" extension to write one also gives a
>>> dependency error in Kodi that Google doesn't show me any fixes for.
>> You shouldn't need to access Firefox.
>> Kodi has its own browser interface, and it should be possible for you to
>> access what you want via addons like `lazytv', etc..
>> You should be able to access the mixer that way also, directly.
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Harry
> 
> Thanks again for the quick reply! Unfortunately, I'm trying to control
> a hardware mixer on the network here (a Behringer XAir 18). That needs
> its own Linux application. Could you link me to a tutorial on how to
> launch the external application on Kodi that works on Debian? It would
> be much appreciated!
> 
> I've installed the LazyTV addon, and tried it. It just gave a beep and
> did nothing. Do you have a tutorial on how to use that to view
> specific content only available in the browser? Such as ziggogo.tv
> (Dutch cable provider) and uitzendinggemist.nl (Dutch TV)?
> 
> These must be really basic questions, but by just googling and reading
> the manual I have not been able to figure it out.

You're probably better off speaking to the Kodi people directly.

https://kodi.wiki/view/Main_Page

https://forum.kodi.tv/

I haven't explored Kodi enough to give you the answers you need with
additional hardware in a network, but somebody there will know about it.
Good luck with it, and let us know how you go.
Cheers!

Harry

-- 
"'Crazy' is a term of art; 'Insane' is a term of law. 
Remember that, and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble." 

--Hunter S. Thompson



Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra



On 28/04/2021 13:57, Weaver wrote:

On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote:

On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote:

On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote:

I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support
launching external programs and/or webpages easily.

I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions
installed in order access external resources. Depending on where you
are, cross-border `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in
the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
Cheers!

Harry.

Thanks. I've been looking at Kodi and trying to launch a webpage in
Firefox, but that requires writing an extension apparently (all the
existing ones are broken or won't run on the Debian version of Kodi).
Trying the "Hello World" extension to write one also gives a
dependency error in Kodi that Google doesn't show me any fixes for.

You shouldn't need to access Firefox.
Kodi has its own browser interface, and it should be possible for you to
access what you want via addons like `lazytv', etc..
You should be able to access the mixer that way also, directly.
Cheers!

Harry


Thanks again for the quick reply! Unfortunately, I'm trying to control a 
hardware mixer on the network here (a Behringer XAir 18). That needs its 
own Linux application. Could you link me to a tutorial on how to launch 
the external application on Kodi that works on Debian? It would be much 
appreciated!


I've installed the LazyTV addon, and tried it. It just gave a beep and 
did nothing. Do you have a tutorial on how to use that to view specific 
content only available in the browser? Such as ziggogo.tv (Dutch cable 
provider) and uitzendinggemist.nl (Dutch TV)?


These must be really basic questions, but by just googling and reading 
the manual I have not been able to figure it out.



Thanks,


Kasper.




There are a couple of webpages I would like to launch easily (as they
are the only way to view Dutch TV online), and also a program to
control the audio mixer via the network.

If you have any hints on how to achieve this in Kodi, I'd be grateful.


Thanks,


Kasper

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Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 21:20, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
> On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote:
>> On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
>>> I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support
>>> launching external programs and/or webpages easily.
>> I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions
>> installed in order access external resources. Depending on where you
>> are, cross-border `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in
>> the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
>> Cheers!
>>
>> Harry.
> 
> Thanks. I've been looking at Kodi and trying to launch a webpage in
> Firefox, but that requires writing an extension apparently (all the
> existing ones are broken or won't run on the Debian version of Kodi).
> Trying the "Hello World" extension to write one also gives a
> dependency error in Kodi that Google doesn't show me any fixes for.

You shouldn't need to access Firefox.
Kodi has its own browser interface, and it should be possible for you to
access what you want via addons like `lazytv', etc..
You should be able to access the mixer that way also, directly.
Cheers!

Harry

> There are a couple of webpages I would like to launch easily (as they
> are the only way to view Dutch TV online), and also a program to
> control the audio mixer via the network.
> 
> If you have any hints on how to achieve this in Kodi, I'd be grateful.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kasper
> 
> PS: Please put me on CC on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

-- 
"'Crazy' is a term of art; 'Insane' is a term of law. 
Remember that, and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble." 

--Hunter S. Thompson



Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra



On 28/04/2021 11:32, Weaver wrote:

On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote:

I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support
launching external programs and/or webpages easily.

I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions
installed in order access external resources. Depending on where you
are, cross-border `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in
the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
Cheers!

Harry.


Thanks. I've been looking at Kodi and trying to launch a webpage in 
Firefox, but that requires writing an extension apparently (all the 
existing ones are broken or won't run on the Debian version of Kodi). 
Trying the "Hello World" extension to write one also gives a dependency 
error in Kodi that Google doesn't show me any fixes for.


There are a couple of webpages I would like to launch easily (as they 
are the only way to view Dutch TV online), and also a program to control 
the audio mixer via the network.


If you have any hints on how to achieve this in Kodi, I'd be grateful.


Thanks,


Kasper

PS: Please put me on CC on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.



Re: Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Weaver
On 28-04-2021 19:04, Kasper Loopstra wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> I am trying to use a multi-touch monitor (Dell P2418HT) with Debian as
> a front-end for a media center setup. Ideally this system would work
> without having a mouse attached, and allow touching icons on some kind
> of Desktop or main screen to open specific webpages in Firefox and/or
> start programs.
> 
> 
> Having tried both KDE and Gnome I cannot really seem to get things to
> work the way I would like.
> 
> KDE/Wayland: Works reasonably well, but the icons on the desktop do
> not respond to touch in any way, and the Start menu needs to be used.
> 
> Gnome/Wayland: No longer has the concept of a Desktop, but even with
> the Desktop extension program shortcuts show up as files to be opened
> with a text-editor instead of "click and something happens".
> 
> I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support
> launching external programs and/or webpages easily.

I don't know about the rest, but Kodi usually requires extensions
installed in order access external resources. Depending on where you
are, cross-border `intellectual property' stipulations sometimes get in
the way. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
Cheers!

Harry.

> Stuff like multi-touch in applications, pinch-to-zoom and 2 finger
> scroll are not working either.
> 
> 
> What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Kasper
> 
> 
> PS: Please put me on CC on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.

-- 
"'Crazy' is a term of art; 'Insane' is a term of law.
Remember that, and you'll save yourself a lot of trouble."

--Hunter S. Thompson



Best desktop environment for multitouch touchscreen?

2021-04-28 Thread Kasper Loopstra

Hi all,


I am trying to use a multi-touch monitor (Dell P2418HT) with Debian as a 
front-end for a media center setup. Ideally this system would work 
without having a mouse attached, and allow touching icons on some kind 
of Desktop or main screen to open specific webpages in Firefox and/or 
start programs.



Having tried both KDE and Gnome I cannot really seem to get things to 
work the way I would like.


KDE/Wayland: Works reasonably well, but the icons on the desktop do not 
respond to touch in any way, and the Start menu needs to be used.


Gnome/Wayland: No longer has the concept of a Desktop, but even with the 
Desktop extension program shortcuts show up as files to be opened with a 
text-editor instead of "click and something happens".


I've also briefly tried to use Kodi, but that does not seem to support 
launching external programs and/or webpages easily.



Stuff like multi-touch in applications, pinch-to-zoom and 2 finger 
scroll are not working either.



What is the best desktop environment or other application to try for this?


Thanks,


Kasper


PS: Please put me on CC on replies, I'm not subscribed to the list.