Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Aniartia
I've got a 2.2 r3 CD, an inet connection.. what's the quickest and pain-free 
way to get to testing/unstable?

TIA
  Ani



Re: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Pawel Dudek
Change apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to woody or sid archives, and
then run apt-get update and next apt-get upgrade.
Best regards,
Pawel 



On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Aniartia wrote:

 I've got a 2.2 r3 CD, an inet connection.. what's the quickest and pain-free 
 way to get to testing/unstable?
 
 TIA
   Ani
 
 
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Re: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 07:28:59PM +0200, Pawel Dudek wrote:
 Change apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to woody or sid archives, and
 then run apt-get update and next apt-get upgrade.

Always use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when upgrading between distributions
rather than 'apt-get upgrade'. The latter won't generally make the right
decisions.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Pawel Dudek
I always use apt-get upgrade. Hm, maybe I've luck that everything going
good by this way of upgrade. However, thanks for correct my mistake.
Best regards, 
Pawel


On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Colin Watson wrote:

 On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 07:28:59PM +0200, Pawel Dudek wrote:
  Change apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to woody or sid archives, and
  then run apt-get update and next apt-get upgrade.
 
 Always use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when upgrading between distributions
 rather than 'apt-get upgrade'. The latter won't generally make the right
 decisions.
 
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RE: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Justin Hahn
Actually, dist-upgrade is probably the method of choice for all upgrades
once you start using unstable. dist-upgrade tends to resolve dependencies
and such that upgrade does not. Since these sorts of things changes
(potentially) frequently under unstable it helps keep things running right.

--jeh

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 I always use apt-get upgrade. Hm, maybe I've luck that 
 everything going
 good by this way of upgrade. However, thanks for correct my mistake.
 Best regards, 
 Pawel
 
 
 On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Colin Watson wrote:
 
  On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 07:28:59PM +0200, Pawel Dudek wrote:
   Change apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to woody or 
 sid archives, and
   then run apt-get update and next apt-get upgrade.
  
  Always use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when upgrading between 
 distributions
  rather than 'apt-get upgrade'. The latter won't generally 
 make the right
  decisions.
  
  -- 
  Colin Watson  
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Re: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 07:51:19PM +0200, Pawel Dudek wrote:
 On Thu, 11 Oct 2001, Colin Watson wrote:
  On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 07:28:59PM +0200, Pawel Dudek wrote:
   Change apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list to woody or sid archives, and
   then run apt-get update and next apt-get upgrade.
  
  Always use 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when upgrading between distributions
  rather than 'apt-get upgrade'. The latter won't generally make the right
  decisions.
 
 I always use apt-get upgrade. Hm, maybe I've luck that everything going
 good by this way of upgrade. However, thanks for correct my mistake.

While it probably won't break your system, you'll find in the long run
that many packages will be held back by 'upgrade', since it will never
install new packages nor remove old ones in its attempt to upgrade your
system, so it can never follow package rearrangements. See the
apt-get(8) man page.

-- 
Colin Watson  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



RE: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread John Gilger

Justin Hahn noted:


Actually, dist-upgrade is probably the method of choice for all upgrades
once you start using unstable. dist-upgrade tends to resolve dependencies
and such that upgrade does not. Since these sorts of things changes
(potentially) frequently under unstable it helps keep things running right.

--jeh


A couple of years ago a debian guru told me that dselect was the safest 
method of doing a system upgrade. It works for me. YMMV


Peace,

John

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Re: Best route to testing/unstable?

2001-10-11 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Thu, Oct 11, 2001 at 05:24:45PM +, Aniartia wrote:
 I've got a 2.2 r3 CD, an inet connection.. what's the quickest and pain-free 
 way to get to testing/unstable?

Multi step approach may be a good idea unless you already upgraded apt
to woody. 

1. edit /etc/apt/souces.list to include stable/security/testing 
2. apt-get -u dist-upgrade  # I agree with others on this.
3. edit /etc/apt/souces.list to include stable/security/testing/unstable 
4. create /etc/apt/preferences with

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: 900

Package: *
Pin: release a=stable
Pin-Priority: 600

Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: 400
 
5. apt-get install -u -t unstable whateverfromunstablepackage

Now you are testing/unstable.  Without preference, you tend to run into
unstable all the time.  Read man apt_preference

My web below also list some of my experiences :-)
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