Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > That tedious.  It was/is getting broken all the time, thus
> > getting tangled up with everything else.  It is beginning to be a
> > real nuisance.
>
> Blacklist all the recent participants.

Thanks all for your suggestions.  I have followed this one!  

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:41:57 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

Hello Lisi,

>On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> Blacklist all the recent participants.  
>Thanks all for your suggestions.  I have followed this one!  

Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll see
their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread re-emerges.
Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to that, and any
other thread, not just those to the thread you were/are trying to quell.

OTOH, you might consider that a "Good Thing"®.   ;-)

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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Lisi Reisz  writes:

> On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> > That tedious.  It was/is getting broken all the time, thus
>> > getting tangled up with everything else.  It is beginning to be a
>> > real nuisance.
>>
>> Blacklist all the recent participants.
>
> Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one!

Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/23/2013 10:20 AM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> Blacklist all the recent participants.
>>> 
>>> Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one!
> Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.

be careful what you ask for:)
rm -rf *

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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Oct 2013 at 13:27:11 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

> Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll see
> their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread re-emerges.
> Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to that, and any
> other thread, not just those to the thread you were/are trying to quell.
> 
> OTOH, you might consider that a "Good Thing"®.   ;-)

I think the OP probably realises that but it as well to spell it out for
other readers. A more surgical approach would be to target headers such
as References: and In-Reply-To: and filter on one or both of them. I
expect this would have its own drawbacks but at least it gets closer to
the blacklisting of all participants in a particular thread.

The idea is to get the Message-ID of the first post, but ones from
subsequent mails should also be useful. My perspective is that of a user
of Mutt. Mutt has the abilty to pipe a mail to a script; I think Kmail
can also do this.

In Mutt:

   macro index  |/home/brian/extract

extract has

   MID=$(cat - | grep -i ^Message-ID | cut -d"<" -f2 | cut -d">" -f1) 

What is done with the Message-ID is up to you. Using it in procmail is
one idea. However, I collect mail with POP3 and have mailfilter filter
mails on the server, so the script also has

   echo "DENY=\"^References:.*${A}\"" >> 
/home/brian/.mailfilter/mailfilterrc-refs
   echo "DENY=\"^In-Reply-To:.*${A}\"" >> 
/home/brian/.mailfilter/mailfilterrc-refs

in it.

Pressing F4 in mutt takes a second and the DENY rules delete the mails
for the thread you do not want to see when the POP3 server is accessed. 

   




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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:20:37 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> > On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> > That tedious.  It was/is getting broken all the time, thus
> >> > getting tangled up with everything else.  It is beginning to
> >> > be a real nuisance.
> >>
> >> Blacklist all the recent participants.
> >
> > Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one!
>
> Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.

I have been accused before of having no sense of humour. :-(  But it 
really _was_ a good suggestion.  I have been barely reading one of 
the posters for some time anyway because I find him/her such hard 
work to read and try to understand.

So you were helpful in spite of yourself!

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 13:27:11 Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:41:57 +0100
> Lisi Reisz  wrote:
> >On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >> Blacklist all the recent participants.
> >
> >Thanks all for your suggestions.  I have followed this one!
>
> Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll
> see their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread
> re-emerges. Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to
> that, and any other thread, not just those to the thread you
> were/are trying to quell.
>
> OTOH, you might consider that a "Good Thing"®.   ;-)

:-)

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 15:20:37 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> Lisi Reisz  writes:
> > On Monday 21 October 2013 20:50:44 Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 03:11:03PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> > That tedious.  It was/is getting broken all the time, thus
> >> > getting tangled up with everything else.  It is beginning to
> >> > be a real nuisance.
> >>
> >> Blacklist all the recent participants.
> >
> > Thanks all for your suggestions. I have followed this one!
>
> Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.

It was Jonathan's suggestion, and I don't think that it was intended 
as a joke.  It is a very good solution to the main problem.

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:29:27 +0100
Brian  wrote:

Hello Brian,

>I think the OP probably realises that but it as well to spell it out for

I think you're right, but decided to post anyway mostly for the reason
you state.

Not being a Mutt user myself, the rest if of only academic interest to
me.

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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Brad Rogers
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 15:37:56 +0100
Lisi Reisz  wrote:

Hello Lisi,

>I have been barely reading one of the posters for some time anyway
>because I find him/her such hard work to read and try to understand.

Ooh!  Ooh! Is there a  prize for guessing who?   :-D

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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
Hello, Brad!

On Wednesday 23 October 2013 16:06:58 Brad Rogers wrote:
> >I have been barely reading one of the posters for some time anyway
> >because I find him/her such hard work to read and try to
> > understand.
>
> Ooh!  Ooh! Is there a  prize for guessing who?   :-D

Sorry, no. ;-)  I got rid of all my stock of small party prizes when 
my son turned 21.

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Lisi Reisz  writes:
>> Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.
>
> It was Jonathan's suggestion, and I don't think that it was intended 
> as a joke.  It is a very good solution to the main problem.

I think Brad had explained it quite well...

On Wednesday 23 October 2013 13:27:11 Brad Rogers wrote:
> Be aware though, that if somebody new posts to the thread, you'll
> see their messages, and any quote(s) they contain so the thread
> re-emerges. Also, blacklisting the people will block their posts to
> that, and any other thread, not just those to the thread you
> were/are trying to quell.

Therefore, I meant it was a bad advice, but did not want to say it
straight (trying not to be rude).


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 23 October 2013 16:25:38 Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> > It was Jonathan's suggestion, and I don't think that it was
> > intended as a joke.  It is a very good solution to the main
> > problem.
>
> I think Brad had explained it quite well...

As Brad said, I knew that perfectly well.  It is a solution that I can 
live with.  Brad was right to explain it, as I perhaps should have, 
for the benefit of newbies who might happen upon this thread.

Lisi


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Brian
On Wed 23 Oct 2013 at 16:05:03 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote:

> Not being a Mutt user myself, the rest if of only academic interest to
> me.

Using Mutt to filter mails which form a thread wasn't the point I was
trying to make, although I was gratified to find that, together other
programs, blacklisting of participants (whoever they may be) is possible
with it.

More to the point is whether filtering on the From: header is a solution
to not wanting to see mails in a particular thread and, if not, what
headers are more suitable and can it be done with Kmail.

Kmail appears to have the filtering capabilities

   http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdepim/kmail/filters.html

to produce a solution more in line with the original subject of this
thread .


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Re: Blacklisting threads - SOLVED

2013-10-23 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 06:20:37PM +0400, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> Lisi, I'm afraid it was *not* a suggestion, but a very bad joke.

I was entirely serious actually.


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