Re: Booting problem

2022-11-12 Thread David Wright
On Sun 13 Nov 2022 at 08:24:11 (+0530), Emilia Maher wrote:
> Hello,
> I have installed NetBeans through snapd process, as explained here:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/Netbeans
> 
> But after installation completed, I have faced booting problem.
> Then I have removed the snapd through terminal command as well I followed
> the instructions given here:
> https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian#Remove_unnecessary_kernel_modules
> 
> To clear the unwanted packages but still I am facing the same booting
> problem.
> Please let me know what I can do to fix booting problem.

It might be an idea to explain what the nature of your booting problem is.

Cheers,
David.



Booting problem

2022-11-12 Thread Emilia Maher
Hello,
I have installed NetBeans through snapd process, as explained here:

https://wiki.debian.org/Netbeans

But after installation completed, I have faced booting problem.
Then I have removed the snapd through terminal command as well I followed
the instructions given here:
https://wiki.debian.org/ReduceDebian#Remove_unnecessary_kernel_modules

To clear the unwanted packages but still I am facing the same booting
problem.
Please let me know what I can do to fix booting problem.

Thanks and Regards


pxe booting problem

2009-09-14 Thread abdelkader belahcene
Hi,
I tried to install debian via PXE.
following the doc, I install netboot.tar.gz  which contains pxe file.
I configured the dhcpd.conf   here is relevant part :

host 00016CB3066E{   # MAC
hardware ethernet 00:01:6C:B3:06:6E;
fixed-address172.19.6.224;
server-namedebian225;
next-serverdebian225;
filename /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0;
}

I decompressed  netboot.tar in /var/lib/tftpboot ,
I installed  tftpd-hpa
first problem:
the file contains /etc/default/tftpd-hpa


RUN_DAEMON=no
OPTIONS=-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot

so the standalone tftpd-hpa is disabled, ??
 While the file /etc/inetd.conf  contains the good line
tftp   dgram   udp waitroot  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
/usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot


When I boot  a remote machine,  I get correct address from the dhcp,

but the error is :  file not found  tftp error   ?
why  I declared  pxelinux0  in the /var/lib/tftpboot

question:  must I run a standlone /tftpd-hpa  or thru inetd, where I have to
declare pxelinux0for the connection

thanks a lot
bela


Re: pxe booting problem

2009-09-14 Thread Axel Freyn
Hi,
 I tried to install debian via PXE.
 following the doc, I install netboot.tar.gz  which contains pxe file.
 I configured the dhcpd.conf   here is relevant part :
 
 host 00016CB3066E{   # MAC
 hardware ethernet 00:01:6C:B3:06:6E;
 fixed-address172.19.6.224;
 server-namedebian225;
 next-serverdebian225;
 filename /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0;
 }
 
 I decompressed  netboot.tar in /var/lib/tftpboot ,
 I installed  tftpd-hpa
 first problem:
 the file contains /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
 
 RUN_DAEMON=no
 OPTIONS=-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 so the standalone tftpd-hpa is disabled, ??
Yes, that's correct: the tftp-Server is not running stand-alone, but it
will be executed by inetd whenever neede (so you have to verify that the
inetd-server ist really running).
Of course - if you prefer - you can also use the standalon tftp-Server
and uncomment the line in inetd.conf - it shouldn't make any difference
  While the file /etc/inetd.conf  contains the good line
 tftp   dgram   udp waitroot  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 When I boot  a remote machine,  I get correct address from the dhcp,
 but the error is :  file not found  tftp error   ?
 why  I declared  pxelinux0  in the /var/lib/tftpboot
 
The easiest would be to use a network sniffer like wireshark in order to
verify which file the client is trying to download exactly. However, in
your configuration of the tftp-Server, the file
/var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0 on the server will be accessed by
pxelinux.0 - without the directory. So just try 
 filename pxelinux.0;
instead of
 filename /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0;
maybe that will work...

HTH,

Axel


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Re: pxe booting problem

2009-09-14 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:53:31PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
 Hi,
 I tried to install debian via PXE.
 following the doc, I install netboot.tar.gz  which contains pxe file.
 I configured the dhcpd.conf   here is relevant part :
 
 host 00016CB3066E{   # MAC
 hardware ethernet 00:01:6C:B3:06:6E;
 fixed-address172.19.6.224;
 server-namedebian225;
 next-serverdebian225;
 filename /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0;

Make that:

  filename /tftpboot/pxelinux.0;

Note the option -s in the command-line of tftpd .

 }
 
 I decompressed  netboot.tar in /var/lib/tftpboot ,
 I installed  tftpd-hpa
 first problem:
 the file contains /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
 
 
 RUN_DAEMON=no
 OPTIONS=-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 so the standalone tftpd-hpa is disabled, ??
  While the file /etc/inetd.conf  contains the good line
 tftp   dgram   udp waitroot  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 
 When I boot  a remote machine,  I get correct address from the dhcp,
 
 but the error is :  file not found  tftp error   ?
 why  I declared  pxelinux0  in the /var/lib/tftpboot

This should indeed be easy to test. 'tftp' is a tftp client.

 
 question:  must I run a standlone /tftpd-hpa  or thru inetd, where I have to
 declare pxelinux0for the connection

Shouldn't really matter.

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Re: pxe booting problem

2009-09-14 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:53:31PM +0100, abdelkader belahcene wrote:
 Hi,
 I tried to install debian via PXE.
 following the doc, I install netboot.tar.gz  which contains pxe file.
 I configured the dhcpd.conf   here is relevant part :
 
 host 00016CB3066E{   # MAC
 hardware ethernet 00:01:6C:B3:06:6E;
 fixed-address172.19.6.224;
 server-namedebian225;
 next-serverdebian225;
 filename /var/lib/tftpboot/pxelinux.0;
 }
 
 I decompressed  netboot.tar in /var/lib/tftpboot ,
 I installed  tftpd-hpa
 first problem:
 the file contains /etc/default/tftpd-hpa
 
 
 RUN_DAEMON=no
 OPTIONS=-l -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 so the standalone tftpd-hpa is disabled, ??
  While the file /etc/inetd.conf  contains the good line
 tftp   dgram   udp waitroot  /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
 /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 
 When I boot  a remote machine,  I get correct address from the dhcp,
 
 but the error is :  file not found  tftp error   ?
 why  I declared  pxelinux0  in the /var/lib/tftpboot
 
 question:  must I run a standlone /tftpd-hpa  or thru inetd, where I have to
 declare pxelinux0for the connection
 
Did you /etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd restart after editing its config
file?

-Rob


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Re: Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-20 Thread Owen Townend
On 2/20/08, Tero Mäntyvaara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Owen Townend wrote:
 
 
  On 2/20/08, *Tero Mäntyvaara* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Owen Townend wrote:
  
  
   On 2/20/08, *Tero Mäntyvaara* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA
  devices. I
   have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has
  been build
   on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device
  md0 with
   two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.
  
   But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume
  group (named
   VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one
  partition of the
   other disk, booting into Debian fails.
  
   Further investigated: If I connect either of the two
  KnoppMyth VG1
   disks
   Debian boots well.
  
   And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes
 well.
  
   Here is the output:
   kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
   kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
   Attempting manual resume
   kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
   resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
   resume: Could not read the image
   Done.
   kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
   EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
   Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
   Done.
   Done.
   Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
   mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No
  such file or
   directory
   Done.
   mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or
  directory
   mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or
  directory
   Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
  
   BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
   Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
  
   /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
   (initramfs)
  
  
   Here is the illustration of the disks:
   Debian:
   --
   FS:
   /boot (LV-dir-boot)
   /usr (LV-dir-usr)
   /var (LV-dir-var)
   /home (LV-dir-home)
   /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
   / (LV-root)
   /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
   swap (LV-swap)
   -
   LVM:
   LVs:
   LV-dir-boot
   LV-dir-usr
   LV-dir-var
   LV-dir-home
   LV-dir-usr-local
   LV-root
   LV-dir-tmp
   LV-swap
   VG:
   VG0
   --
   RAID:
   md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
   --
   Partitions:
   hde
  hde1 (Auto RAID)
   hdg
  hdg1 (Auto RAID)
   --
   Disks:
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
   --
  
   KnoppMyth:
   --
   FS:
   / (sdb1)
   swap (sdb2)
   -
   LVM:
   LVs:
   myth
   VG:
   VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
   --
   Partitions:
   sda
   sda1 (linux swap)
   sda2 (linux LVM)
   sdb
   sdb1 (linux)
   sdb2 (linux swap)
   sdb3 (linux LVM)
   --
   Disks:
   SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
   SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
   --
  
  
   Tero Mäntyvaara
  
  
  
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   Hey,
 Looks like it can't find the right disks/partitions to boot
 from.
   The order may be being re-arranged when you attach them all at
 once.
 Could be an issue with 

Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-19 Thread Tero Mäntyvaara

Hi,

I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA devices. I 
have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has been build

on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device md0 with
two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.

But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume group (named 
VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one partition of the 
other disk, booting into Debian fails.


Further investigated: If I connect either of the two KnoppMyth VG1 disks 
Debian boots well.


And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes well.

Here is the output:
kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
Attempting manual resume
kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
resume: Could not read the image
Done.
kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
Done.
Done.
Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or 
directory

Done.
mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init

BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
(initramfs)


Here is the illustration of the disks:
Debian:
--
FS:
   /boot (LV-dir-boot)
   /usr (LV-dir-usr)
   /var (LV-dir-var)
   /home (LV-dir-home)
   /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
   / (LV-root)
   /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
   swap (LV-swap)
-
LVM:
   LVs:
   LV-dir-boot
   LV-dir-usr
   LV-dir-var
   LV-dir-home
   LV-dir-usr-local
   LV-root
   LV-dir-tmp
   LV-swap
   VG:
   VG0
--
RAID:
   md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
--
Partitions:
   hde
  hde1 (Auto RAID)
   hdg
  hdg1 (Auto RAID)
--
Disks:
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
--

KnoppMyth:
--
FS:
   / (sdb1)
   swap (sdb2)
-
LVM:
   LVs:
   myth
   VG:
   VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
--
Partitions:
   sda
   sda1 (linux swap)
   sda2 (linux LVM)
   sdb
   sdb1 (linux)
   sdb2 (linux swap)
   sdb3 (linux LVM)
--
Disks:
   SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
   SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
--


Tero Mäntyvaara



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Re: Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-19 Thread Owen Townend
On 2/20/08, Tero Mäntyvaara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA devices. I
 have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has been build
 on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device md0 with
 two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.

 But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume group (named
 VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one partition of the
 other disk, booting into Debian fails.

 Further investigated: If I connect either of the two KnoppMyth VG1 disks
 Debian boots well.

 And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes well.

 Here is the output:
 kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
 kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
 Attempting manual resume
 kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
 resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
 resume: Could not read the image
 Done.
 kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
 EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
 Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
 Done.
 Done.
 Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
 mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or
 directory
 Done.
 mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
 mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
 Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init

 BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
 Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
 (initramfs)


 Here is the illustration of the disks:
 Debian:
 --
 FS:
 /boot (LV-dir-boot)
 /usr (LV-dir-usr)
 /var (LV-dir-var)
 /home (LV-dir-home)
 /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
 / (LV-root)
 /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
 swap (LV-swap)
 -
 LVM:
 LVs:
 LV-dir-boot
 LV-dir-usr
 LV-dir-var
 LV-dir-home
 LV-dir-usr-local
 LV-root
 LV-dir-tmp
 LV-swap
 VG:
 VG0
 --
 RAID:
 md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
 --
 Partitions:
 hde
hde1 (Auto RAID)
 hdg
hdg1 (Auto RAID)
 --
 Disks:
 SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
 SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
 --

 KnoppMyth:
 --
 FS:
 / (sdb1)
 swap (sdb2)
 -
 LVM:
 LVs:
 myth
 VG:
 VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
 --
 Partitions:
 sda
 sda1 (linux swap)
 sda2 (linux LVM)
 sdb
 sdb1 (linux)
 sdb2 (linux swap)
 sdb3 (linux LVM)
 --
 Disks:
 SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
 SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
 --


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Hey,
  Looks like it can't find the right disks/partitions to boot from.
The order may be being re-arranged when you attach them all at once.
  Could be an issue with identification, are you using device paths or
uuid's in grub?
  On the subject of grub, what's your boot setup? Where is the boot manager
installed and what's in your menu.1st (or equiv non-grub) ?
  If in doubt post your /boot/grub/menu.1st

Just a thought.
cheers,
Owen.


Re: Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-19 Thread Tero Mäntyvaara

Owen Townend wrote:



On 2/20/08, *Tero Mäntyvaara* [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,

I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA devices. I
have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has been build
on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device md0 with
two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.

But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume group (named
VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one partition of the
other disk, booting into Debian fails.

Further investigated: If I connect either of the two KnoppMyth VG1
disks
Debian boots well.

And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes well.

Here is the output:
kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
Attempting manual resume
kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
resume: Could not read the image
Done.
kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
Done.
Done.
Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file or
directory
Done.
mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or directory
Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init

BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
(initramfs)


Here is the illustration of the disks:
Debian:
--
FS:
/boot (LV-dir-boot)
/usr (LV-dir-usr)
/var (LV-dir-var)
/home (LV-dir-home)
/usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
/ (LV-root)
/tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
swap (LV-swap)
-
LVM:
LVs:
LV-dir-boot
LV-dir-usr
LV-dir-var
LV-dir-home
LV-dir-usr-local
LV-root
LV-dir-tmp
LV-swap
VG:
VG0
--
RAID:
md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
--
Partitions:
hde
   hde1 (Auto RAID)
hdg
   hdg1 (Auto RAID)
--
Disks:
SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
--

KnoppMyth:
--
FS:
/ (sdb1)
swap (sdb2)
-
LVM:
LVs:
myth
VG:
VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
--
Partitions:
sda
sda1 (linux swap)
sda2 (linux LVM)
sdb
sdb1 (linux)
sdb2 (linux swap)
sdb3 (linux LVM)
--
Disks:
SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
--


Tero Mäntyvaara



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Hey,
  Looks like it can't find the right disks/partitions to boot from. 
The order may be being re-arranged when you attach them all at once.
  Could be an issue with identification, are you using device paths or 
uuid's in grub?
  On the subject of grub, what's your boot setup? Where is the boot 
manager installed and what's in your menu.1st (or equiv non-grub) ?

  If in doubt post your /boot/grub/menu.1st

Just a thought.
cheers,
Owen.

Hi,

LILO has installed in system by default. Installation target was 
/dev/md0 and I remember that there was some problems with that in 
installer. Here is also content of the lilo.conf:


# /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
# ---   `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
#   and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

# +---+
# |!! Reminder !! |
# |   |
# | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
# | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt' (if you have created it), or   |
# | install a new kernel.  The computer will most likely fail to  |
# | boot if a kernel-image post-install script or you don't   |
# | remember to run `lilo'.   |
# |   |
# +---+

# 

Re: Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-19 Thread Owen Townend
On 2/20/08, Tero Mäntyvaara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Owen Townend wrote:
 
 
  On 2/20/08, *Tero Mäntyvaara* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA devices. I
  have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has been build
  on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device md0
 with
  two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.
 
  But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume group
 (named
  VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one partition of
 the
  other disk, booting into Debian fails.
 
  Further investigated: If I connect either of the two KnoppMyth VG1
  disks
  Debian boots well.
 
  And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes well.
 
  Here is the output:
  kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
  kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
  Attempting manual resume
  kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
  resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
  resume: Could not read the image
  Done.
  kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
  EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
  Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
  Done.
  Done.
  Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
  mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No such file
 or
  directory
  Done.
  mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or directory
  mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or
 directory
  Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
 
  BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
  Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.
 
  /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
  (initramfs)
 
 
  Here is the illustration of the disks:
  Debian:
  --
  FS:
  /boot (LV-dir-boot)
  /usr (LV-dir-usr)
  /var (LV-dir-var)
  /home (LV-dir-home)
  /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
  / (LV-root)
  /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
  swap (LV-swap)
  -
  LVM:
  LVs:
  LV-dir-boot
  LV-dir-usr
  LV-dir-var
  LV-dir-home
  LV-dir-usr-local
  LV-root
  LV-dir-tmp
  LV-swap
  VG:
  VG0
  --
  RAID:
  md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
  --
  Partitions:
  hde
 hde1 (Auto RAID)
  hdg
 hdg1 (Auto RAID)
  --
  Disks:
  SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
  SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
  --
 
  KnoppMyth:
  --
  FS:
  / (sdb1)
  swap (sdb2)
  -
  LVM:
  LVs:
  myth
  VG:
  VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
  --
  Partitions:
  sda
  sda1 (linux swap)
  sda2 (linux LVM)
  sdb
  sdb1 (linux)
  sdb2 (linux swap)
  sdb3 (linux LVM)
  --
  Disks:
  SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
  SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
  --
 
 
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  Hey,
Looks like it can't find the right disks/partitions to boot from.
  The order may be being re-arranged when you attach them all at once.
Could be an issue with identification, are you using device paths or
  uuid's in grub?
On the subject of grub, what's your boot setup? Where is the boot
  manager installed and what's in your menu.1st (or equiv non-grub) ?
If in doubt post your /boot/grub/menu.1st
 
  Just a thought.
  cheers,
  Owen.
 Hi,

 LILO has installed in system by default. Installation target was
 /dev/md0 and I remember that there was some problems with that in
 installer. Here is also content of the lilo.conf:

 # /etc/lilo.conf - See: `lilo(8)' and `lilo.conf(5)',
 # ---   `install-mbr(8)', `/usr/share/doc/lilo/',
 #   and `/usr/share/doc/mbr/'.

 # +---+
 # |!! Reminder !! |
 # |   |
 # | Don't forget to run `lilo' after you make changes to this |
 # | conffile, `/boot/bootmess.txt' (if you have created it), or   |
 # | install a new 

Re: Multiple SATA disks, two OSs and booting problem

2008-02-19 Thread Tero Mäntyvaara

Owen Townend wrote:



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Owen Townend wrote:


 On 2/20/08, *Tero Mäntyvaara* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Hi,

 I have got motherboard that has support for four (4) SATA
devices. I
 have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has
been build
 on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device
md0 with
 two SAMSUNG SP1614C (SATA) disks. Everything works well.

 But if I connect two other disks (SATA2), there is volume
group (named
 VG1) on those disks and KnoppMyth OS installed on one
partition of the
 other disk, booting into Debian fails.

 Further investigated: If I connect either of the two
KnoppMyth VG1
 disks
 Debian boots well.

 And while all disks connected booting into KnoppMyth goes well.

 Here is the output:
 kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap) = dm-8(253,8)
 kinit: trying to resume from /dev/mapper/VG0-LV--swap
 Attempting manual resume
 kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...
 resume: libgcrypt version 1.2.3
 resume: Could not read the image
 Done.
 kjournald starting. Commit internal 5 seconds
 EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
 Begin: Running /scripts/local-bottom ...
 Done.
 Done.
 Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom ...
 mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: No
such file or
 directory
 Done.
 mount: Mounting /sys on /root/sys failed: No such file or
directory
 mount: Mounting /proc on /root/proc failed: No such file or
directory
 Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init

 BusyBox v1.1.3 (Debian 1:1.1.3-4) Built-in shell (ash)
 Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

 /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned of
 (initramfs)


 Here is the illustration of the disks:
 Debian:
 --
 FS:
 /boot (LV-dir-boot)
 /usr (LV-dir-usr)
 /var (LV-dir-var)
 /home (LV-dir-home)
 /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
 / (LV-root)
 /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
 swap (LV-swap)
 -
 LVM:
 LVs:
 LV-dir-boot
 LV-dir-usr
 LV-dir-var
 LV-dir-home
 LV-dir-usr-local
 LV-root
 LV-dir-tmp
 LV-swap
 VG:
 VG0
 --
 RAID:
 md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
 --
 Partitions:
 hde
hde1 (Auto RAID)
 hdg
hdg1 (Auto RAID)
 --
 Disks:
 SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
 SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
 --

 KnoppMyth:
 --
 FS:
 / (sdb1)
 swap (sdb2)
 -
 LVM:
 LVs:
 myth
 VG:
 VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
 --
 Partitions:
 sda
 sda1 (linux swap)
 sda2 (linux LVM)
 sdb
 sdb1 (linux)
 sdb2 (linux swap)
 sdb3 (linux LVM)
 --
 Disks:
 SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
 SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
 --


 Tero Mäntyvaara



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 Hey,
   Looks like it can't find the right disks/partitions to boot from.
 The order may be being re-arranged when you attach them all at once.
   Could be an issue with identification, are you using device
paths or
 uuid's in grub?
   On the subject of grub, what's your boot setup? Where is the boot
 manager installed and what's in your menu.1st (or equiv non-grub) ?
   If in doubt post your /boot/grub/menu.1st

 Just a thought.
 cheers,
 Owen.
Hi,

LILO has installed in system by 

RocketRAID, SATA disks and booting problem

2008-02-17 Thread Tero Mäntyvaara

Hi,

I have installed Debian 4.0r2 AMD64 on filesystem witch has been build 
on top of LVM system. LVM is on top of software-raid1 device md0 with 
two SAMSUNG SP1614C disks. Disks are connected to RocketRAID 1640 
SATA-controller. Everything works well.


But if I connect two other disks to controller that is on the 
motherboard, there is LVM VG1 on these disks and KnoppMyth OS installed 
on one partition of the other disk, booting into Debian fails. I have 
choosen to boot from RocketRAID. If I swap the disks on RockerRAID to 
the motherboard controller and disks on motherboard conroller to the 
RocketRAID there is no difference.


Here is the illustration of the disks:
Debian:
--
FS:
   /boot (LV-dir-boot)
   /usr (LV-dir-usr)
   /var (LV-dir-var)
   /home (LV-dir-home)
   /usr/local (LV-dir-usr-local)
   / (LV-root)
   /tmp (LV-dir-tmp)
   swap (LV-swap)
-
LVM:
   LVs:
   LV-dir-boot
   LV-dir-usr
   LV-dir-var
   LV-dir-home
   LV-dir-usr-local
   LV-root
   LV-dir-tmp
   LV-swap
   VG:
   VG0
--
RAID:
   md0 (RAID1): hde1, hdg1
--
Partitions:
   hde
  hde1
   hdg
  hdg1
--
Disks:
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hde)
   SAMSUNG SP1614C (hdg)
--

KnoppMyth:
--
FS:
   / (sdb1)
   swap (sdb2)
-
LVM:
   LVs:
   myth
   VG:
   VG1 (sda2, sdb3)
--
Partitions:
   sda
   sda1 (linux swap)
   sda2 (linux LVM)
   sdb
   sdb1 (linux)
   sdb2 (linux swap)
   sdb3 (linux LVM)
--
Disks:
   SAMSUNG HD300LJ (sda)
   SAMSUNG HD321KJ (sdb)
--


Tero Mäntyvaara


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Dual Core Booting Problem -And S...S...st...stutt...stuttering Operation

2007-12-10 Thread I.E.Broadbent
Hi folks...

The saga with the speed and booting issues with this new 64bit-AMD-dual-
core continues (for those who recall the earlier posts with a
similar/same subject line).

I eventually swapped out the 4x1gig memory modules for Kingston Units
and it is at least now booting with all 4 slots occupied but I'm
still not happy with the speed of the machine, or with it's constant
hanging/freezing whenever I am typing. (E.g. in the time it took me to
type this above the input and screen updating froze three times each
time for about 6 seconds .. (it's just done it again).

I have upgraded the BIOS to version '6f' from the gigabyte site but was
then getting the 8254 Bug -no timer connected to IO-APIC at POST.
This has been cleared by specifying NOAPIC at boot... but I am still
suffering from this 'freezing/stuttering' when typing and the whole
machine just seems sluggish.

For info:   Its a gigabyte motherboard M61p-S3
AMD Dual Core 64 bit 4600+ (running at a BIOS reported 2400mhz and a
200mhz clock)
with 4 x1gig 660mhz Kingston Modules.
It's a 550watt PSU, and a 7200rpm 360gig drive

Anyone else come across this stuttering and a 'just too slow'
operation.

It takes 6 seconds to fire up Evolution and a whopping 32 seconds to
bring up Open Office.


Ian


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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-03 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:34:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
 
 However, don't all those modules in the initrd end up staying in the
 kernel anyway, or do they get unloaded during boot?  If they stay, and
 'most' modules get added, how is that different than having a huge
 monolithic kernel?  It may not matter on a box with huge memory, but I
 have mostly small-memory boxes.

I may be wrong, but I think that only the needed modules are actually 
loaded.

 As for xorg-video-foo, that's why I don't install the xorg metapackage.
 I choose from its dependencies what I need.  

Same here

 /rant
 
 There's a growing kitchen-sink approach in Debian (perhaps all of Linux,
 I don't know).  There's the kernel/initrd size, there's the variable
 device name problems, to name two.  It suggests to me that there's a
 missing piece of infrastructure.  Perhaps the installer system should
 create a hardware inventory file that initrdtools (or whatever the
 nom de jure) can access to generate a tailord initrd, that apt can
 consult for what drivers to download, etc.  The installer rescue mode
 could offer a tool to regenerate the inventory file for times when one
 changes hardware.
 
 /end rant

True, but you have to consider the competition. If you plug a new device 
into a Windows machine the driver gets installed automatically or you 
get prompted for the drivers if Windows doesn't have them. You have to 
admit that this is pretty convenient functionality which has been there 
at least since Windows 2000 (how this is cluttering the registry and the 
fact that it isn't always working is a totally different topic).

The big advantage on linux (and especially Debian) is that power users 
still have the possibility to customize the setup (like using a 
different mkinitrd, different options, purge unneeded packages, ...) 
that a Windows user doesn't have. 

Regards,
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2007-08-03 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:54:57PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:34:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
  
  However, don't all those modules in the initrd end up staying in the
  kernel anyway, or do they get unloaded during boot?  If they stay, and
  'most' modules get added, how is that different than having a huge
  monolithic kernel?  It may not matter on a box with huge memory, but I
  have mostly small-memory boxes.
 
 I may be wrong, but I think that only the needed modules are actually 
 loaded.
 
  As for xorg-video-foo, that's why I don't install the xorg metapackage.
  I choose from its dependencies what I need.  
 
 Same here

All these extra packages together take a lot of disk space, a lot of
download bandwidth to install and maintain.

 
  /rant
  
  There's a growing kitchen-sink approach in Debian (perhaps all of Linux,
  I don't know).  There's the kernel/initrd size, there's the variable
  device name problems, to name two.  It suggests to me that there's a
  missing piece of infrastructure.  Perhaps the installer system should
  create a hardware inventory file that initrdtools (or whatever the
  nom de jure) can access to generate a tailord initrd, that apt can
  consult for what drivers to download, etc.  The installer rescue mode
  could offer a tool to regenerate the inventory file for times when one
  changes hardware.
  
  /end rant
 
 True, but you have to consider the competition. 

I guess the problem is related to this notion of trying to compete with
MS.  If people 'buy' brand A because they like features x,y, and z, and
brand B has the goal of gaining market share, it will tend to morph into
a clone (feature-wise) of brand A.  However, it will tend to take on
some of the compromises of brand B that go with features x, y, and z.  

I stick with debian on my big box because of inertia, the debian policy,
the debian security support for all packages in debian/main, and the
absolute ease of applying bug fixes with aptitude.  Debian also supports
my trackball mouse's scroll wheel (IMPS/2) whereas OpenBSD does not.
However, my older computers are transitioning away from Debian to BSD
because of the newer debian (perhaps all linuxes) being so much slower
on them than either older debians or new BSDs.



 If you plug a new device 
 into a Windows machine the driver gets installed automatically or you 
 get prompted for the drivers if Windows doesn't have them. You have to 
 admit that this is pretty convenient functionality which has been there 
 at least since Windows 2000 (how this is cluttering the registry and the 
 fact that it isn't always working is a totally different topic).

That convenience comes at a huge price in terms of system resource
utilization on boxes with few resources.  Compare it to OpenBSD, for
example, where there is no such thing as eth0, but network interfaces
based on driver name (eg. ne) and configuration; my 486 has one NIC as
ne1.  Its not convenient to have to look up in a file for the supported
configurations of different hardware to ensure that your NIC is set up
to match one of them then configure networking based on ne1.  However,
its only done once.

 
 The big advantage on linux (and especially Debian) is that power users 
 still have the possibility to customize the setup (like using a 
 different mkinitrd, different options, purge unneeded packages, ...) 
 that a Windows user doesn't have. 
 

True, but rather than hotplugging, I would prefer a program that can be
run as needed each time a new piece of hardware is attached for the
first time, which would create the device node and load the appropriate
module and parameters.  Once done, it would get out of the way.  On
subsequent attachment of a device, everything would be pre-existing.

It all comes down to the notion of competition and market share.  If
Debian is going to focus on market share and competing with MS it will
have to target MS's target market.  Since I'm not in that market, Debian
will be shifting its focus on the market I'm in.  It won't be that I'm
drifting away from Debian but that Debian is drifting away from me.

Doug.


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Re: design focus [was Large initrd, was booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-03 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 3, 2007, at 9:25 AM, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:

I guess the problem is related to this notion of trying to compete  
with
MS.  If people 'buy' brand A because they like features x,y, and z,  
and
brand B has the goal of gaining market share, it will tend to morph  
into

a clone (feature-wise) of brand A.  However, it will tend to take on
some of the compromises of brand B that go with features x, y, and z.

I stick with debian on my big box because of inertia, the debian  
policy,

the debian security support for all packages in debian/main, and the
absolute ease of applying bug fixes with aptitude.  Debian also  
supports

my trackball mouse's scroll wheel (IMPS/2) whereas OpenBSD does not.
However, my older computers are transitioning away from Debian to BSD
because of the newer debian (perhaps all linuxes) being so much slower
on them than either older debians or new BSDs.


I don't think it's so much Microsoft's influence as it is a  
difference in philosophy.  Linux distributions put a lot of effort  
into being convenient desktop OSs.  BSD tends to be aimed more at  
servers, where things like hotplugging aren't as important.  If you  
have to check dmesg for the right device node and then run 'mount' to  
access a USB flash drive on a server, it doesn't matter much because  
you aren't going to be doing that often.  If you have to do that on  
your desktop machine every time you plug in your digital camera, it  
gets old in a hurry.  For that matter, ten years ago Linux  
distributions were already doing fully automated installers while  
NetBSD and OpenBSD still required you to get out a calculator to  
figure out the cylinder boundaries for the slices on your hard disk.   
The two OSs just occupy different points on the easy of use vs.  
compactness scale.


You see this in hardware support, too.  Linux tries to support the  
newest stuff, because that's what's in desktop machines (and  
sometimes suffers instability because of it), while BSD tends to take  
a more conservative approach.  Hardware that's seen in desktops but  
rarely in servers often isn't supported or maintained well in BSD,  
because it's just not a priority.  (The 3c509 ethernet driver, for  
example, was buggy for *years* in FreeBSD.  It never really got  
fixed, the cards just became obsolete. ;)  Another example: The  
Marvell Yukon gigabit ethernet chipset, common in desktops but rare  
in servers, is much slower under FreeBSD than under Linux.)


It could be for your particular application, BSD is just the right  
tool for the job.



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Re: design focus [was Large initrd, was booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-03 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:25:15PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 05:54:57PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:34:00PM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote:
   
   However, don't all those modules in the initrd end up staying in the
   kernel anyway, or do they get unloaded during boot?  If they stay, and
   'most' modules get added, how is that different than having a huge
   monolithic kernel?  It may not matter on a box with huge memory, but I
   have mostly small-memory boxes.
  
  I may be wrong, but I think that only the needed modules are actually 
  loaded.

I think this is correct, only the needed modules are actually loaded
into the kernel. The initrd makes the *available* for loading. And
when / pivots, I think the initrd memory gets freed. So its really
only an issue during the initial bootstrap. A really large initrd on a
memory-bound machine could get in the way. A really large initrd on an
I/O bound machine can take a long time to load in. But, IMO, for
general purpose machines, its not a big deal.

  
   As for xorg-video-foo, that's why I don't install the xorg metapackage.
   I choose from its dependencies what I need.  
  
  Same here
 
 All these extra packages together take a lot of disk space, a lot of
 download bandwidth to install and maintain.

yeah, the extra packages definitely are an issue. I'm not so sure tht
the extra kernel modules are all that big a deal in the long run. but
that's just a gut feeling.

 
  
   /rant
   
   There's a growing kitchen-sink approach in Debian (perhaps all of Linux,
   I don't know).  There's the kernel/initrd size, there's the variable
   device name problems, to name two.  It suggests to me that there's a
   missing piece of infrastructure.  Perhaps the installer system should
   create a hardware inventory file that initrdtools (or whatever the
   nom de jure) can access to generate a tailord initrd, that apt can
   consult for what drivers to download, etc.  The installer rescue mode
   could offer a tool to regenerate the inventory file for times when one
   changes hardware.
   
   /end rant
  
  True, but you have to consider the competition. 
 
 I guess the problem is related to this notion of trying to compete with
 MS.  If people 'buy' brand A because they like features x,y, and z, and
 brand B has the goal of gaining market share, it will tend to morph into
 a clone (feature-wise) of brand A.  However, it will tend to take on
 some of the compromises of brand B that go with features x, y, and z.  
 

I think that on the whole, debian strikes a decent balance. You get
the kitchen sink, but have the option to switch over to a bare pipe
sticking out of the wall for no charge other than your own labor. :)

A


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2007-08-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:10:25PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Miles Bader wrote:
  Hmm, I didn't realize it analyzed the system when building the ramfs
  contents.  Maybe I could just reinstall the kernel while the new kernel
  is running (or is there an official hint mechanism I could use)?
 
 Yes.  Please try that.
 
  [I thought it just included _every_ possible module on the ramfs --
  judging from the enormous size of the installed kernel package, it seems
  like it!]
 
 :-)
 
Yes, I know what you mean. I was using yaird to make my initrd, but it 
gave some errors on the latest upgrade (and Steve Langasek, Debian 
kernel maintainer suggested it is no longer maintained). So now I'm 
exploring the initramfs-tools package. The first initrd was about *5 
(five)* times bigger! I changed the config for including modules from 
'most' to 'dep' and I got a much smaller (but still a bit bigger then 
yaird) initrd. Haven't tried to boot with it yet, though ;)

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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-02 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 18:23:04 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

[...]

 Yes, I know what you mean. I was using yaird to make my initrd, but it 
 gave some errors on the latest upgrade (and Steve Langasek, Debian 
 kernel maintainer suggested it is no longer maintained).

Do you mean this problem?

yaird error: unrecognised line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal)

That can be fixed relatively easily, see bug #431534, followup 1.
(/usr/lib/yaird/perl/InputTab.pm is patched to simply ignore these new
lines in /proc/bus/input/devices.)

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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:23:04PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 11:10:25PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
  Miles Bader wrote:
   Hmm, I didn't realize it analyzed the system when building the ramfs
   contents.  Maybe I could just reinstall the kernel while the new kernel
   is running (or is there an official hint mechanism I could use)?
  
  Yes.  Please try that.
  
   [I thought it just included _every_ possible module on the ramfs --
   judging from the enormous size of the installed kernel package, it seems
   like it!]
  
  :-)
  
 Yes, I know what you mean. I was using yaird to make my initrd, but it 
 gave some errors on the latest upgrade (and Steve Langasek, Debian 
 kernel maintainer suggested it is no longer maintained). So now I'm 
 exploring the initramfs-tools package. The first initrd was about *5 
 (five)* times bigger!

wow! I never noticed that. And in fact I probably wouldn't have as
 this system doesn't have any initrd's left from yaird. My server
 which was an etch/testing box for a while has a couple older initrd's
 that are 1.4 megs or so versus the newer ones at 5-6megs. yikes. 

 I changed the config for including modules from 
 'most' to 'dep' and I got a much smaller (but still a bit bigger then 
 yaird) initrd. Haven't tried to boot with it yet, though ;)

same here. interesting. I'll have to play with that. You could
probably tighten it up even more by using the 'list' option and
putting a minimum-necessary list in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. At
least that's how I read it. 

So what is the significance of initrd size? (other than the obvious
filling up /boot issue). Is it really a problem to have most modules
in there? I can think of some situations where it might be nice to
have most of them -- mobo fails catastrophically and you want to be
able to just boot, for example. 

Finally, I have on this (sid) system both initrd-tools and
initramfs-tools installed. The latter is brought in by the kernel
dependencies, and the former is manually installed. Who knows why or
when I did that, but is one preferred over the other? 


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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:35:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
 same here. interesting. I'll have to play with that. You could
 probably tighten it up even more by using the 'list' option and
 putting a minimum-necessary list in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules. At
 least that's how I read it. 

That's too much hacking for my taste.

 So what is the significance of initrd size? (other than the obvious
 filling up /boot issue). Is it really a problem to have most modules
 in there? I can think of some situations where it might be nice to
 have most of them -- mobo fails catastrophically and you want to be
 able to just boot, for example. 

This is about it. Debian wants to provide an initrd that works even ehn 
changing hardware. Same reason for installing all -xorg-video-foo 
packages.

 Finally, I have on this (sid) system both initrd-tools and
 initramfs-tools installed. The latter is brought in by the kernel
 dependencies, and the former is manually installed. Who knows why or
 when I did that, but is one preferred over the other? 

AFAIU initrd-tools are deprecated and should not be used:

http://wiki.debian.org/InitrdReplacementOptions

There is also a nice comparison of initramfs-tools vs. yaird, though I'm 
not sure how recent this is.

Regards,
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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 06:40:52PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 18:23:04 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 
 [...]
 
  Yes, I know what you mean. I was using yaird to make my initrd, but it 
  gave some errors on the latest upgrade (and Steve Langasek, Debian 
  kernel maintainer suggested it is no longer maintained).
 
 Do you mean this problem?
 
 yaird error: unrecognised line in /proc/bus/input/devices: U: Uniq= (fatal)
 
 That can be fixed relatively easily, see bug #431534, followup 1.
 (/usr/lib/yaird/perl/InputTab.pm is patched to simply ignore these new
 lines in /proc/bus/input/devices.)

Sure I could do this (actually I found another workaround, see #435560), 
but that's not the point. And I'm (by far) not knowledgeable enough to 
take over.

Regards,
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Re: Large initrd [Was: Re: booting problem (udev related?)]

2007-08-02 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 12:19:36AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 10:35:01AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
 
  So what is the significance of initrd size? (other than the obvious
  filling up /boot issue). Is it really a problem to have most modules
  in there? I can think of some situations where it might be nice to
  have most of them -- mobo fails catastrophically and you want to be
  able to just boot, for example. 
 
 This is about it. Debian wants to provide an initrd that works even ehn 
 changing hardware. Same reason for installing all -xorg-video-foo 
 packages.
 

However, don't all those modules in the initrd end up staying in the
kernel anyway, or do they get unloaded during boot?  If they stay, and
'most' modules get added, how is that different than having a huge
monolithic kernel?  It may not matter on a box with huge memory, but I
have mostly small-memory boxes.

As for xorg-video-foo, that's why I don't install the xorg metapackage.
I choose from its dependencies what I need.  

/rant

There's a growing kitchen-sink approach in Debian (perhaps all of Linux,
I don't know).  There's the kernel/initrd size, there's the variable
device name problems, to name two.  It suggests to me that there's a
missing piece of infrastructure.  Perhaps the installer system should
create a hardware inventory file that initrdtools (or whatever the
nom de jure) can access to generate a tailord initrd, that apt can
consult for what drivers to download, etc.  The installer rescue mode
could offer a tool to regenerate the inventory file for times when one
changes hardware.

/end rant

Doug.


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booting problem (udev related?)

2007-08-01 Thread Miles Bader
For a long time, I used self-compiled kernels, with no problems.

Recently I installed a debian kernel package, linux-image-2.6.22-1-686
(version 2.6.22-3).  [It was a tight fit -- my root partition only has
130MB on it, and the debian kernel package used up 60MB -- but it did fit
with about 4MB to spare!]

The problem is that with the new kernel, the system won't boot all the way.
It fails when it tries to mount the root partition, and dumps me into the
ramfs emergency shell.  The error message is something generic like File
not found (sorry for the vagueness, those boot messages don't get saved
anywhere and I didn't write them down).

I seems like it may be related to udev because if I look in /dev, the disk
device nodes which should be there _aren't there_, even though the disk
hardware is recognized fine by the kernel.

Indeed, I can fix things enough in the emergency shell to get the boot to
succeed; I just use the following commands:

   mknod /dev/sda1 b 8 1
   mount -text2 /dev/sda1 /root

Then I hit ^D to the shell prompt to exit the shell, and the boot continues
sucessfully (I'm typing in that running system now)!

So it appears that for some reason, udev didn't create the appropriate
/dev/sda1 node for the root to be mounted?!?  Oddly, once booting
continues, everything works fine, including mounting of my /usr partition
from /dev/sda3 (notice that I didn't create /dev/sda3 above, and it
certainly wasn't there initially).  [I know my raw /dev directory has an
entry for /dev/sda3 from before udev existed; does udev notice that and
somehow copy it?]

With my old self-compiled kernels, I have no problems, using exactly the
same system.  Those kernels though, have compiled-in drivers for all my
devices, and don't use initramfs (or initrd) at all, so perhaps it's a
module-loading issue?  The last self-compiled kernel I used was version
2.6.19.7 btw.

Does anybody have any idea what's going on, and how I might try to fix it?

BTW, my system uses a SCSI disk with an old Adaptec SCSI card, if that's
relevant... here's some related msgs from dmsg:

   SCSI subsystem initialized
   ...
   scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
   Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter
   aic7880: Ultra Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/253 SCBs
   ...
   scsi 0:0:5:0: Direct-Access SEAGATE  ST34555N 0930 PQ: 0 ANSI: 2
target0:0:5: Beginning Domain Validation
target0:0:5: FAST-10 SCSI 10.0 MB/s ST (100 ns, offset 15)
target0:0:5: Domain Validation skipping write tests
target0:0:5: Ending Domain Validation
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] 924 512-byte hardware sectors (4551 MB)
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 93 00 10 08
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO 
and FUA
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] 924 512-byte hardware sectors (4551 MB)
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 93 00 10 08
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Write cache: enabled, read cache: enabled, supports DPO 
and FUA
sda: sda1 sda2 sda3
   sd 0:0:5:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk


Thanks greatly,

-Miles

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Re: booting problem (udev related?)

2007-08-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Miles Bader wrote:
 The problem is that with the new kernel, the system won't boot all the way.
 It fails when it tries to mount the root partition, and dumps me into the
 ramfs emergency shell.  The error message is something generic like File
 not found (sorry for the vagueness, those boot messages don't get saved
 anywhere and I didn't write them down).

This sounds to me as if the initrd did not load the device drivers, as
you suggested later in your message.  Look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst
file and verify that the initrd is being loaded.

Check that you have current versions of 'module-init-tools' and
'initramfs-tools' packages.  The 'mkinitramfs' command is what builds
the initrd.img file.

I think the problem is your clue that previously you had compiled into
your kernel your required modules.  This may be making it difficult
for mkinitramfs to determine which modules are required.  If it fails
to detect this it would build an incorrect initrd.img and have similar
results to what you are reporting.  You may need to hint to it a
module to help bootstrap the system along.

 BTW, my system uses a SCSI disk with an old Adaptec SCSI card
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter

That was a great card.  I have one too but it is no longer in use.
I miss SCSI.

Bob


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Re: booting problem (udev related?)

2007-08-01 Thread Miles Bader
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Proulx) writes:
 I think the problem is your clue that previously you had compiled into
 your kernel your required modules.  This may be making it difficult
 for mkinitramfs to determine which modules are required.  If it fails
 to detect this it would build an incorrect initrd.img and have similar
 results to what you are reporting.  You may need to hint to it a
 module to help bootstrap the system along.

Hmm, I didn't realize it analyzed the system when building the ramfs
contents.  Maybe I could just reinstall the kernel while the new kernel
is running (or is there an official hint mechanism I could use)?

[I thought it just included _every_ possible module on the ramfs --
judging from the enormous size of the installed kernel package, it seems
like it!]

 BTW, my system uses a SCSI disk with an old Adaptec SCSI card
scsi0 : Adaptec AIC7XXX EISA/VLB/PCI SCSI HBA DRIVER, Rev 7.0
Adaptec 2940 Ultra SCSI adapter

 That was a great card.  I have one too but it is no longer in use.
 I miss SCSI.

Yeah this system gives me the warm fuzzies, despite the very small disk
size; I guess next system will be SATA though, it's just too hard to
justify anything else... :-/

Thanks,

-Miles

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Re: booting problem (udev related?)

2007-08-01 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:50:08AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
 
 I seems like it may be related to udev because if I look in /dev, the disk
 device nodes which should be there _aren't there_, even though the disk
 hardware is recognized fine by the kernel.
 

Udev isn't running yet.  The boot devices/modules are loaded in the
initramfs.  I've never compiled a kernel so I haven't had to fitz with
initramfs.

Doug.


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Re: booting problem (udev related?)

2007-08-01 Thread Bob Proulx
Miles Bader wrote:
 Hmm, I didn't realize it analyzed the system when building the ramfs
 contents.  Maybe I could just reinstall the kernel while the new kernel
 is running (or is there an official hint mechanism I could use)?

Yes.  Please try that.

 [I thought it just included _every_ possible module on the ramfs --
 judging from the enormous size of the installed kernel package, it seems
 like it!]

:-)

 Yeah this system gives me the warm fuzzies, despite the very small disk
 size; I guess next system will be SATA though, it's just too hard to
 justify anything else... :-/

Yep.  I have given into the dark side too.  They have cookies.

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Re: Loadlin Booting Problem

2005-08-11 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Paul,

On Thu, Aug 11, 2005 at 04:05:22AM -0700, Paul Kranz wrote:
 I would like help getting Loadlin to work with Linux
 3.0 r6 which is using kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 and Windows
 98.  Loadlin boots the vanilla version of the kernel
 2.2.20 as expected, however it seems to have a problem
 uncompressing kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4 and displays the
 following messages at bootup.

 unocmpressing linux .
 invalid compression format (err=2)
  --- system haulted

 The 2.4.18-bf2.4 kernel boots fine from the boot
 floppy.  I'm using the Loadlin instructions in Chris
 Fischer's Loadlin + Win 95/98/ME mini-HOWTO.

The debian-boot mailing list is a list for discussing the development of the
Debian installer.  The list you want for this sort of question is
debian-user.

FWIW, it might be advisable to grab a copy of Debian 3.1 instead, as 3.0r6
is no longer the current stable release.

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Booting Problem SATA large disk

2004-06-09 Thread Sebastian Canagaratna

Hi:

 I am running unstable Debian with Linux 2.6.6. kernel.
 My computer is a Gateway computer with a large (160GB) disk with
 SATA controller. I have Windows XP on hda1, and linux on hda2, with
 partitions hda3,5,6 etc for home, usr, var, etc.

 I had problems installing Linux on the hard drive because of the SATA
 drive. Knoppix seemed to boot up, and with the help of that I managed
 to install 2.6.0-test9 kernel. The Hard drive seemed to be changed to
 sdb, with Linux on the sdb2 partition. The 750 MB Iomega zip was
 recognized as sda. The dvd rom was recognized as sr0. I changed the
 /etc/fstab to these values and managed to make a bootdisk with
 syslinux; I do not remember precisely what I did, but I presume I used
 Knoppid. It boots up only when I do not give any parameters at the boot
 prompt. If I attempt to give root=/dev/sdb2, it goes into kernel panic. This is able 
to boot up, but I am unable to dual-boot from
 Windows: it just hangs.

 I recently thought I would install the 2.6.6. kernel.  They recommend
 that the cd use hte ide-cd rather than the scsi and I built the kernel
 accordingly.  I used syslinux to make a boot disk, but this goes into
 kernel panic, wanting a valid root=  paramter. No parameter seems to
 work. I have tried, lilo and grub and all of them do the same thing. I
 presume this has something to do with the fact that to the bios the
 disk is hda, and when the scsi SATA is used in 2.6.6 this is changed.

 Any suggestions as to how to proceed will be appreciated.

 Thanks.


 Sebastian Canagaratna

 Department of Chemistry 
 Ohio Northern University
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Re: booting problem with tpconfig after removing it

2004-01-26 Thread Jan Minar
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 07:03:05PM +0100, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
 I encountered a strange problem today. Suddenly my notebook stops
 booting after starting klogd.
 
 I am running 2.6.1 and unstable. 
 
 After booting into single user mode I tried to manually start
 everything in rc2.d via /etc/init.d xyz start and discovered that
 /etc/init.d/tpconfig hangs. In the shell I could kill it with Ctrl-C,
 but during boot up there was no chance to kill it.

Hi, Jan (heh! :-)

You haven't file a bugreport, have you?  Please do ``reportbug
tpconfig''.

Jan.

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booting problem with tpconfig after removing it

2004-01-24 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Hi,

I encountered a strange problem today. Suddenly my notebook stops
booting after starting klogd.

I am running 2.6.1 and unstable. 

After booting into single user mode I tried to manually start
everything in rc2.d via /etc/init.d xyz start and discovered that
/etc/init.d/tpconfig hangs. In the shell I could kill it with Ctrl-C,
but during boot up there was no chance to kill it.

Maybe it is because the tpconfig package was removed. I don't know.

So if anybody encountered the same problem. Just remove the links from
/etc or purge the package.

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-19 Thread Antony Gelberg
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:57:34AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 14:58, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:48:17AM -0500, Parfait BINI wrote:
   Good morning Sir,
   My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer.
 [snip]
   Parfait BINI
   
  Remove all that Windoze stuff and install Debian.
  
  [Or what sort of answer did you expect from this list?]
 
 Could all these guys asking Windows questions really be trolls,
 seeing how we react?

I think they are for _sure_.  And people insist on feeding them.  You
can tell when a Windows user has a serious question because it won't be
_that_ moronic.  The really moronic ones are trolls and should be
ignored, no matter how tempting.

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-11 Thread Joachim Fahnenmueller
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:48:17AM -0500, Parfait BINI wrote:
 Good morning Sir,
 My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer. I had a new RAM for 
 playing Playstation games,when I start by Win98 iI don't have no problem but when I 
 start by WindowsXP it shows me an error of imcompatibility. I've remove this RAM and 
 since this day ,I no more use my slot extension and I can start my computer with my 
 Sound card and network card. Please give INformation to resolve that. Hoping to hear 
 from you soon.Thanks.
 Parfait BINI
 
Remove all that Windoze stuff and install Debian.

[Or what sort of answer did you expect from this list?]

HTH [?]
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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-11 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 14:58, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
 On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:48:17AM -0500, Parfait BINI wrote:
  Good morning Sir,
  My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer.
[snip]
  Parfait BINI
  
 Remove all that Windoze stuff and install Debian.
 
 [Or what sort of answer did you expect from this list?]

Could all these guys asking Windows questions really be trolls,
seeing how we react?

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-11 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:57:34 -0600, 
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 14:58, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:48:17AM -0500, Parfait BINI wrote:
   Good morning Sir,
   My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer.
 [snip]
   Parfait BINI
   
  Remove all that Windoze stuff and install Debian.
  
  [Or what sort of answer did you expect from this list?]
 
 Could all these guys asking Windows questions really be trolls,
 seeing how we react?

..benefit of doubt can't hurt for the first timers.  ;-)

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 07:01:32PM +, Jess Anderson wrote:
 But isn't this group moderated

No, it's not.

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-11 Thread Pigeon
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 10:57:34AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-11-10 at 14:58, Joachim Fahnenmueller wrote:
  On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 09:48:17AM -0500, Parfait BINI wrote:
   Good morning Sir,
   My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer.
 [snip]
   Parfait BINI
   
  Remove all that Windoze stuff and install Debian.
  
  [Or what sort of answer did you expect from this list?]
 
 Could all these guys asking Windows questions really be trolls,
 seeing how we react?

Hmm... they never ever respond, either on list or off... I CCed one of
them once, asking quite politely what they thought debian-user was and
why they thought we should know if AOL had their credit card details.
Didn't get a response!

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Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-10 Thread Parfait BINI


Good morning Sir,
My name's Parfait BINI, I got a boot problem with my computer. I had a new RAM for playing Playstation games,when I start by Win98 iI don't have no problem but when I start by WindowsXP it shows me an error of imcompatibility. I've remove this RAM and since this day ,I no more use my slot extension and I can start my computer with my Sound card and network card. Please give INformation to resolve that. Hoping to hear from you soon.Thanks.
Parfait BINILèche-vitrine ou lèche-écran ? Yahoo! Magasinage.

Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-10 Thread David Palmer.
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 09:48:17 -0500 (EST)
Parfait BINI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Good morning Sir,
 My name's Parfait BINI, I got  a boot problem with my computer. I had
 a new RAM for playing Playstation games,when I start by Win98 iI don't
 have no problem but when I start by WindowsXP it shows me an error of
 imcompatibility. I've remove this RAM and since this day ,I no more
 use my slot extension and I can start my computer with my Sound card
 and network card. Please give INformation to resolve that. Hoping to
 hear from you soon.Thanks. Parfait BINI
 
Hello Parfait,

It has been a long time since I did anything with a Microsoft
distribution, but I believe from memory that XP takes a reading of your
system at registration time, and then refuses any further additions to
that system, yes, even unto a RAM upgrade. I believe that they
implemented this so that it would make it difficult to put XP onto more
than one system. There was a big stink about the level of arrogance
involved in dictating how people were permitted to employ their own
property from memory, and I think if you ring the operator on the number
provided on your install CD that they are able to make some
configuration change which will permit you to use new hardware upgrades
that you have purchased for use on your own machine in conjunction with
the operating system that you have also purchased. But other than that,
I don't have any advice to offer.

Perhaps you might like to try Debian?
Debian isn't arrogant at all.
To start off with Debian I personally would advise using Knoppix or
Libranet.
If you search for either of those two terms with Google you will achieve
the kind of result that left windose behind for me some time ago. I will
never go back.
Regards,

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Re: Need to resolve booting problem

2003-11-10 Thread Kent West
David Palmer. wrote:
Perhaps you might like to try Debian?
Debian isn't arrogant at all.


ROTFL!!!

(Okay, out of context, but still, that was funny!)

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Re: Kernel-image-2.4.1-di booting problem....

2001-03-12 Thread Joey Hess
Gong Yi LIAO wrote:
 I had apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.1-di several hour ago,

Why did you do that? 

Package: kernel-image-2.4.1-di
Description: Linux kernel binary image for the Debian installer
 This package contains the Linux kernel image version 2.4.1-di,
 for the experimental Debian installer project. This kernel is very
 modular, and will only work on Debian systems that boot into an
 initrd.
 
Note that debian does not yet use an initrd, so this is rather unlikely
to work on your system yet.

 How should I do for booting the kernel image 2.4.1-di correctly ?

I hope you have lilo configured to let you boot your old kernel, or have
a rescue CD or floppy.

Herbert, I see you're beginning to work on some initrd stuff. Is there a
package I can make kernel-image-di depend on that sets up an inird?

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Kernel-image-2.4.1-di booting problem....

2001-03-09 Thread Gong Yi LIAO

Hi ,gurus
I had apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.1-di several hour ago,
and I tried to boot the kernel from hda on my machine(x86)
,but I got trouble while the kernel mount root file system ,
the error:
VFS:error ,can not find root file system ,or:
I can not get root I want to scream
How should I do for booting the kernel image 2.4.1-di correctly ?
Thanx!!! 



Re: Booting problem

2001-01-15 Thread kmself
on Fri, Jan 12, 2001 at 07:37:29PM +0100, Bolem?nyi Attila ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
 HI!
 
 I have an Abit BE6-II motherboard with HPT370UDMA/ATA 100 raid
 cintroller.
 When I try to install the Potato, I have a message, so I have not a hard
 disk.
 How can I install the Potato to my computer? I just found a HPT366
 floppy images.

Please post the exact error message(s) and where in the boot process
they occur.

You may wish to find a support list in a familiar language -- your
English is not very clear.

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Booting problem

2001-01-12 Thread Bolemányi Attila
HI!

I have an Abit BE6-II motherboard with HPT370UDMA/ATA 100 raid
cintroller.
When I try to install the Potato, I have a message, so I have not a hard
disk.
How can I install the Potato to my computer? I just found a HPT366
floppy images.

Attila




Re: Booting problem with AMD Athlon

2000-01-24 Thread Adam Di Carlo
Alain Birtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I recently bought Debian 2.1 and I tried to install it on my brand new
 PC.
 However I was not capable to make it to the installer.
 
 When I start from the CD-ROM, I see the boot: prompt, I hit return and
 then it starts loading stuff, like a normal boot does.  However, when
 it arrives at the line
 NCR53c406a: no available ports found
 it hangs there.
 The cursors waits at the beginning of the next line.

Generally, it is the *next* message (the one that doesn't appear)
which is the trouble-maker.

 Some people told me that, because of my Athlon processor, I should try
 boot floppies with potato.

True.

 I made the floppies and was able to boot from the rescue floppy.  It
 asked me for the root disk and I put it in.
 
 It loads the the ramdisk, free some memory, then freezes.
 
 here is the log:
 VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press
 ENTER
 RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
 Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
 _ hangs here

Very strange!

 Here is the list of my hardware:
 AMD Athlon 550 Mgz
 1 IDE hard-disk: 13 gig
 128 meg of RAM
 Nothing SCSI
 FUJITSU motherboard (AMI BIOS )
 Sceptre Monitor 17 inch (VGA comptible)
 S3 Trio3D/2X cheap graphic card
 Ethernet card: StarTech
 
 Do you have any idea of what could be wrong?

Not offhand.  We will be uploading a new potato boot-floppies (2.2.5)
soon, which is 2.2.14 based.  Maybe that will fare better.  If not,
we'll file a bug against the kernel, that is, file a bug against
kernel-image-2.2.14.

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Booting problem with AMD Athlon

2000-01-21 Thread Alain Birtz
Hi, 

I recently bought Debian 2.1 and I tried to install it on my brand new PC.
However I was not capable to make it to the installer.

When I start from the CD-ROM, I see the boot: prompt, I hit return and then it starts loading stuff, like a normal boot does.  However, when it arrives at the line 
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
it hangs there.
The cursors waits at the beginning of the next line.

Here is my transcription of the log:
...
VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
hda: JUBITSU MPE3136AT, ATA DISK drive
hdc: ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVER 40X MAXIMUM, ATAPI CDROM drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
hda: FUJITSU MPE3136AT, 13031MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1661/255/63
hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128 kB Cache
Uniform CDROM  driver Revision: 2.55
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
NCR53c406a: no available ports found
_ (hangs here)


I looked in the Learning Debian book for boot arguments, and I found NCR53c406a corresponded to NCR 53c406a-based SCSI host adapters:

I have NO SCSI device on my computer, I only have an IDE HD. Therefore I find rather normal that it cannot find 'ports' for it since there are none.

I tried using max-scsi-luns=0 (and =1) arguments to prevent it to scan for SCSI device...it still hangs at the same point.

I tried using ncr53c406a=0 to disable interrupts and it didn't work too

I also tried disabling several BIOS options that could have lead to trouble...no luck.

But, when I gave boot arg pci=off, I got 2 extra lines before hangs: 

NCR53c406a: no available ports found
eata_dma: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver release still depends on it.
o Skipping can for PCI HBAs.
hangs>

Some people told me that, because of my Athlon processor, I should try boot floppies with potato. 

I made the floppies and was able to boot from the rescue floppy.  It asked me for the root disk and I put it in.

It loads the the ramdisk, free some memory, then freezes.

here is the log:
VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press ENTER
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
_ hangs here>

Here is the list of my hardware:
AMD Athlon 550 Mgz
1 IDE hard-disk: 13 gig
128 meg of RAM
Nothing SCSI
FUJITSU motherboard (AMI BIOS )
Sceptre Monitor 17 inch (VGA comptible)
S3 Trio3D/2X cheap graphic card
Ethernet card: StarTech

Do you have any idea of what could be wrong? 

Thanks,
-Laurent Birtz

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Re: Booting problem with AMD Athlon

2000-01-21 Thread aphro
99% chance i the kernel on the Cd is not compadible with athlon, you need
to make your own boot disk, or, if possible it would be easier to install
on a non athlon, upgrade the kernel then move the HD back to the athlon.

you need linux 2.2.13 to boot on athlon.(or newer)

nate

On Fri, 21 Jan 2000, Alain Birtz wrote:

abz Hi, 
abz 
abz 
abz I recently bought Debian 2.1 and I tried to install it on my brand new
abz PC.
abz 
abz However I was not capable to make it to the installer.
abz 
abz 
abz When I start from the CD-ROM, I see the boot: prompt, I hit return and
abz then it starts loading stuff, like a normal boot does.  However, when
abz it arrives at the line 
abz 
abz NCR53c406a: no available ports found
abz 
abz it hangs there.
abz 
abz The cursors waits at the beginning of the next line.
abz 
abz 
abz Here is my transcription of the log:
abz 
abz ...
abz 
abz VP_IDE: IDE controller on PCI bus 00 dev 39
abz 
abz VP_IDE: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
abz 
abzide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
abz 
abzide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:pio
abz 
abz hda: JUBITSU MPE3136AT, ATA DISK drive
abz 
abz hdc: ATAPI CD-ROM DRIVER 40X MAXIMUM, ATAPI CDROM drive
abz 
abz ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7, 0x3f6 on irq 14
abz 
abz ide1 at 0x170-0x177, 0x376 on irq 15
abz 
abz hda: FUJITSU MPE3136AT, 13031MB w/512kB Cache, CHS=1661/255/63
abz 
abz hdc: ATAPI 40X CD-ROM drive, 128 kB Cache
abz 
abz Uniform CDROM  driver Revision: 2.55
abz 
abz Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
abz 
abz FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
abz 
abz md driver 0.36.6 MAX_MD_DEV=4, MAX_REAL=8
abz 
abz NCR53c406a: no available ports found
abz 
abz _ (hangs here)
abz 
abz 
abz 
abz I looked in the Learning Debian book for boot arguments, and I found
abz NCR53c406a corresponded to NCR 53c406a-based SCSI host adapters:
abz 
abz 
abz I have NO SCSI device on my computer, I only have an IDE HD. Therefore
abz I find rather normal that it cannot find 'ports' for it since there are
abz none.
abz 
abz 
abz I tried using max-scsi-luns=0 (and =1) arguments to prevent it to scan
abz for SCSI device...it still hangs at the same point.
abz 
abz 
abz I tried using ncr53c406a=0 to disable interrupts and it didn't work
abz too
abz 
abz 
abz I also tried disabling several BIOS options that could have lead to
abz trouble...no luck.
abz 
abz 
abz But, when I gave boot arg pci=off, I got 2 extra lines before hangs: 
abz 
abz 
abz NCR53c406a: no available ports found
abz 
abz eata_dma: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver release still
abz depends on it.
abz 
abz o Skipping can for PCI HBAs.
abz 
abz hangs
abz 
abz 
abz Some people told me that, because of my Athlon processor, I should try
abz boot floppies with potato. 
abz 
abz 
abz I made the floppies and was able to boot from the rescue floppy.  It
abz asked me for the root disk and I put it in.
abz 
abz 
abz It loads the the ramdisk, free some memory, then freezes.
abz 
abz 
abz here is the log:
abz 
abz VFS: Insert root floppy disk to be loaded into RAM disk and press
abz ENTER
abz 
abz RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
abz 
abz VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
abz 
abz Freeing unused kernel memory: 140k freed
abz 
abz _ hangs here
abz 
abz 
abz Here is the list of my hardware:
abz 
abz AMD Athlon 550 Mgz
abz 
abz 1 IDE hard-disk: 13 gig
abz 
abz 128 meg of RAM
abz 
abz Nothing SCSI
abz 
abz FUJITSU motherboard (AMI BIOS )
abz 
abz Sceptre Monitor 17 inch (VGA comptible)
abz 
abz S3 Trio3D/2X cheap graphic card
abz 
abz Ethernet card: StarTech
abz 
abz 
abz Do you have any idea of what could be wrong? 
abz 
abz 
abz Thanks,
abz 
abz -Laurent Birtz
abz 
abz 
abz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
abz 
abz Alain Birtz
abz 
abz Qc, Canada 
abz 
abz Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
abz 
abz 
abz 
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Re: Booting problem with AMD Athlon

2000-01-21 Thread Dave Blears
On Fri, Jan 21, 2000 at 03:51:35PM -0500, Alain Birtz wrote:
 Hi,  
 
 I recently bought Debian 2.1 and I tried to install it on my brand new 
 PC. 
 However I was not capable to make it to the installer. 
 
 When I start from the CD-ROM, I see the boot: prompt, I hit return and 
 then it starts loading stuff, like a normal boot does.  However, when 
 it arrives at the line  
 NCR53c406a: no available ports found 
 it hangs there. 
 The cursors waits at the beginning of the next line. 

1) on an msi mainboard i found the fllowing worked well

i found that by turning off UDMA and forcing the hard drives to mode 0
during the install it made it thru and i was able to download a 2.2.14
kernel and compile it. i then turned all the ide stuff back to normal and it
went thru fine.

2) on an asus mother

i couldnt find any way to get thru it without the md driver freezing.
i placed the hard drive on another motherboard, did the install, put the
2.2.14 kernel on the mother, and away it went.

hope it helps

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Debian 2.0 booting problem

1999-11-17 Thread Suresh Kumar.R
Hi,

I installed debian 2.0 on pc there is the strange problem:

Sometimes it boots up well. I have installed only the base system and
netwoking code (NIS and Automount)

Sometimes the boot process hangs with the following error message:

qlogicisp: PCI bios not present

eata_dma : No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it

0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs

eata_pio: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it
   
0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs

When the machine boots up properly, the above stage does not occur. I dont
doubt the cdrom as I used the same to install debian on another machine.
This is my second debian install and I have no idea what to do.

Any comments are welcome

Suresh

Suresh Kumar.R
Lecturer
Dept of Electronics  Communication
College of Engineering
Trivandrum - 695 016
INDIA

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Re: Debian 2.0 booting problem

1999-11-17 Thread Jean-Yves BARBIER
On Wed, Nov 17, 1999 at 05:25:02PM +, Suresh Kumar.R wrote:

 Sometimes it boots up well. I have installed only the base system and
 netwoking code (NIS and Automount)
 
 Sometimes the boot process hangs with the following error message:
 
 qlogicisp: PCI bios not present
 
 eata_dma : No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it
 
   0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs
 
 eata_pio: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it

 0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs
 
 When the machine boots up properly, the above stage does not occur. I dont

I might ask for a stupidity, but how old is the battery of the cmos clock/ram ?

JY 
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Re: Debian 2.0 booting problem

1999-11-17 Thread Nick Wesselman
I have been having the same problem... the system often hangs right before
this process (not showing it), often so long that i get impatient and just
power my system down and boot back up, it seems to only hang momentarily
every other time i boot... I don't have any PCI slots (it's an old 486 DX2),
so I suspect that is why... any way to disable all these PCI checks?

and, as to JY's reply to Suresh's original post re: battery, I suspect the
battery for this system is pretty old. I got it second hand, but considering
that it's a 486, i'd have to assume.

Thanks for help,

Nick

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From: Suresh Kumar.R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 11:25 AM
Subject: Debian 2.0 booting problem


 Hi,

 I installed debian 2.0 on pc there is the strange problem:

 Sometimes it boots up well. I have installed only the base system and
 netwoking code (NIS and Automount)

 Sometimes the boot process hangs with the following error message:

 qlogicisp: PCI bios not present

 eata_dma : No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it

 0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs

 eata_pio: No BIOS32 extensions present. This driver still depends on it

 0 Skipping scan for PCI HBAs

 When the machine boots up properly, the above stage does not occur. I dont
 doubt the cdrom as I used the same to install debian on another machine.
 This is my second debian install and I have no idea what to do.

 Any comments are welcome

 Suresh
 
 Suresh Kumar.R
 Lecturer
 Dept of Electronics  Communication
 College of Engineering
 Trivandrum - 695 016
 INDIA

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Booting problem

1999-10-03 Thread Antonio Rodriguez
I recently installed Debian from an official set, slowly the things get
better. The last changes that I managed to do ( a whole adventure for a
windows newcomer!) left me with even a connection to the internet
through wvdial. My main problem is that I have very little memory (about
1.3 gig). Any way, after this last change, when I tried to boot again, I
got a cycle of Lilo . and back to the reboot, never ending. So I put
the floppy created during first installation, trying to fix the matter.
But I don't think it is fixed. Now, I wanted to remove a bunch of things
trying to clean a little and leave room for a more bare installation,
but it does not remove much. Tells me that dpkg is not good. How do I
re-install it?
Even better, I would do a re-installation from scratch, getting a bare
little one with may be some TeX, math utilities, gcc++, and web
connection. But I have no idea how to do it. Please help, give detailed
indications if possible, I am just now getting used to the UNIX
environment, now learning to use emacs, but not sure yet.
Thanks,
Antonio.


lilo Booting problem..

1999-06-07 Thread Gareth
G'day all,
I have a machine running redhat that I am about to upgrade rebuild as a
debian system. 
I have been having a problem booting and was wondering if I could
find a solution to implement when I change to debian.

There are only  SCSI disks 
/dev/sda2 900833  735118   119175 86%   /
/dev/sdc18595876 5910768  2239306 73%   /home/u3
/dev/sda1 100118   1459480354 15%   /var/spool
/dev/sdb1 598634  364658   203053 64%   /home/www
I am currently booting from the floppy as when it tries to boot from one
of the HD's it locks up at LILO

I see LI on the screen and it freezes (which as I understand it means that
it failed to load the secondary boot record)

Now the other weird thing is in an attempt to diagnose this problem I used
fdisk and lilo to change all the partions to be non bootable and not
have a LILO boot record but it still does the same thing even though there
are no bootable partions and no partions with a LILO signature
 
Then I made /dev/sda2 bootable again and still the same error!!

I know the 9Gig disk might cause trouble but its not booting from it so it
should be ok (is this correct?).

Does anyone have any ideas on how to get it booting from a HD???

Thanks in advance for any help.


---Gareth


Booting Problem with Linux 2.0 from CHIP

1999-03-28 Thread H.Peters
We are trying to install Debian Linux 2.0 which we got from CHIP.
After running through the installation and when the system should boot for
the first time the following message occurs:
Loading linux.
Uncompressing Linux...
Out of memory
...System halted
(Our System has 48MB of memory)
What might be the reason?

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Booting problem after install (Same as Tommas)

1998-05-26 Thread a a
I 've installed debian on a p 166 with windows 95 on
i split my HDD to make room for debian and i install lilo as it said in 
the installation menu.when i boot from my hdd win95 strart as 
default,when i press Tab to select i get 1FA: an the system waits.if i 
press down arrow or Tab again it displays 2FA: and then win95 boot
my config of Hdd is :hda1 used by win95 :hda2 extented partition
:hda3 primary partition for debian(flagged non bootable) :hda5 logical 
partition inside hda2
PS the floppy boot works fine

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