Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:35:27PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:

 No - you're finding a Konqueror built for old versions of the libraries you 
 just upgraded.  Log out and back in and you should be OK.

Yeah, that was it.  (At least, restarting X fixed it.)

Thank you.

Now, why, when I completely remove Konqueror from /etc/mailcap (because I
don't want it to ever start automatically) do I find it nevertheless the
default program to open both PDF and HTML files a day later?  What process
is changing my defaults without permission?
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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Jon Dowland
(/me recognises a durhamite..)

On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:39:40AM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:
 On Friday 07 Jan 2005 03:21, Carl Fink wrote:

 In answer to your question about sound effects, you need to install kdebase 
 and start up kde to turn of the sound effects. 

konqueror Depends: on kcontrol which you can use to disable sound
effects without explicitly loading the desktop environment.

 PS, why are you using konqi if you don't like kde?

It's a pretty good web browser...

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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:39:40AM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:

 To explain, konqi doesn't support http, kde does. You need a package called 
 something like the kdebase-kio-plugins package to get http support. 

So why isn't it a dependency?

 Remember, konqi isn't a web browser. 

Yes it is.  What do you mean?

 PS, why are you using konqi if you don't like kde?

Because I do like Konqueror.  Why is that mysterious?
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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:39:19AM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:39:40AM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:
 
  To explain, konqi doesn't support http, kde does. You need a package called 
  something like the kdebase-kio-plugins package to get http support. 
 
 So why isn't it a dependency?

I'm certain it is. I have performed 'apt-get install konqueror' on a
bare system and had a fully functioning web browser afterwards, under
sarge and sid.

  Remember, konqi isn't a web browser. 
 
 Yes it is.  What do you mean?

I think he means, it isn't exclusively a web browser, or perhaps
primarily a web browser.


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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Brian Pack
On Thursday 06 January 2005 10:21 pm, Carl Fink wrote:
 On a newly-updated Sarge system I'm now finding a totally broken
 Konqueror.  Trying to load any web page gives me the frightening
 message:

  Protocol not supported

  http

 So, a web browser that doesn't support http?  Odd.

This happened to me the first time I tried to run Konqueror after upgrading to 
3.3. I was running fluxbox when I upgraded KDE, and nothing from KDE would 
run properly until I logged into KDE at least once.

Once was enough. I haven't had any problems with KDE apps running in fluxbox 
since.


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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Friday 07 Jan 2005 10:39, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 03:39:40AM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:
  To explain, konqi doesn't support http, kde does. You need a package
  called something like the kdebase-kio-plugins package to get http
  support.

 So why isn't it a dependency?

  Remember, konqi isn't a web browser.

 Yes it is.  What do you mean?

  PS, why are you using konqi if you don't like kde?

 Because I do like Konqueror.  Why is that mysterious?

Sorry, I wrote my reply when both tired and mildly pissed. I note now that 
1) kdebase-kio-plugins is a dependency of konqi, and 2) I missed the word 
just out of the sentence Remember, konqi isn't a web browser

does your problem still exist?

Pete

PS, The reason I was wondering why you were using konqi and not kde is that 
konqi drags in a lot of kde stuff, so using it as a stand alone browser 
uses a lot of memory. 


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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:51:56PM +, Peter Nuttall wrote:
 
 PS, The reason I was wondering why you were using konqi and not kde is that 
 konqi drags in a lot of kde stuff, so using it as a stand alone browser 
 uses a lot of memory. 

On my 450mhz, konqueror is the only fully-featured GUI browser that runs at
any kind of usable speed.


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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Thursday 06 January 2005 21:21, Carl Fink wrote:

 On a newly-updated Sarge system I'm now finding a totally broken
 Konqueror.

No - you're finding a Konqueror built for old versions of the libraries you 
just upgraded.  Log out and back in and you should be OK.
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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005 Jan 07 08:52 -0600]:
 
 On my 450mhz, konqueror is the only fully-featured GUI browser that runs at
 any kind of usable speed.

Wow!  I use both Firefox and Mozilla 1.8a5 (mozilla.org builds) on this
333 MHz PII laptop.  Granted, I have 192 MiB of RAM in it, but they ran
very well when it was at 128 MiB.  I am limited by a dial-up connection
so browser speed may not be as noticable, but even compared to my 1.33
GHz Athlon desktop this machine isn't really much slower rendering most
pages.  Browser startup and rendering extremely large pages takes a bit
longer as one would expect.  And, performance may be reduced a bit
further because of hotplug and other things not running on the desktop.

I remember loading a few large pages on Netscape 2.0 back on my old
386/40--now that was an event to pack a lunch for!  Heck, I ever run
Moz browsers on an old Thinkpad 760ED at times.  Now, that does seem a
bit pokey these days.

The only time I've run Konqi is when I've played with Knoppix on this
laptop.  I didn't notice enough speed improvement, if I noticed any at
all, to cause me to load up all the KDE libs...

YMMV,

- Nate 

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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:19:57AM +, Jon Dowland wrote:

 konqueror Depends: on kcontrol which you can use to disable sound
 effects without explicitly loading the desktop environment.

Really?  It opens with NO options listed in the left pane.
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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-07 Thread Carl Fink
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:35:27PM -0600, Kirk Strauser wrote:

 No - you're finding a Konqueror built for old versions of the libraries you 
 just upgraded.  Log out and back in and you should be OK.

By this you mean restart X, right?
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Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-06 Thread Carl Fink
On a newly-updated Sarge system I'm now finding a totally broken
Konqueror.  Trying to load any web page gives me the frightening
message:

Protocol not supported

http

So, a web browser that doesn't support http?  Odd.

BTW, the breaking-glass sound effect added to this makes it even more
irritating.  Do I have to load the rest of the very-annoying KDE to
find the stupid configuration option to turn off the sound FX?
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Re: Broken Konqueror?

2005-01-06 Thread Peter Nuttall
On Friday 07 Jan 2005 03:21, Carl Fink wrote:
 On a newly-updated Sarge system I'm now finding a totally broken
 Konqueror.  Trying to load any web page gives me the frightening
 message:

  Protocol not supported

  http

 So, a web browser that doesn't support http?  Odd.

 BTW, the breaking-glass sound effect added to this makes it even more
 irritating.  Do I have to load the rest of the very-annoying KDE to
 find the stupid configuration option to turn off the sound FX?

Ok.
To explain, konqi doesn't support http, kde does. You need a package called 
something like the kdebase-kio-plugins package to get http support. 
Remember, konqi isn't a web browser. 

In answer to your question about sound effects, you need to install kdebase 
and start up kde to turn of the sound effects. if the effort of doing this 
is too much for you, you could go though the KconfigXT code in konqi, work 
out which bit links up with the sound effects, then figure out what to put 
in ~/.kde . I think you are better off installing, fixing and then 
removing.

Pete

PS, why are you using konqi if you don't like kde?


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Broken Konqueror

2001-12-17 Thread Michael Montagne
After removing all Progeny references from sources.list and running
apt-get -f dist-upgrade numerous times, konqueror seems broken.  I can
browse my file system but not the web.

This is the error:
kio (Scheduler): ERROR: ERROR 3: couldn't create slave : Unable to
create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
kio (Scheduler):
kio (KRun): ERROR: 0x82186a0 ERROR 3 Could not start process
Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_http'.
kio (KRun):

What steps should I take to isolate and solve the problem?

Thanks.
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