Re: Browsing offline filesystems
2009/2/10 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. Would, cp -Rs do the job? It would be nice if rsync had an option of transferring as symlinks then you could use --delete to remove links you have removed in the source file system. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? erno hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
Would, cp -Rs do the job? It would be nice if rsync had an option of transferring as symlinks then you could use --delete to remove links you have removed in the source file system. Thank you, Adrian. This is exactly the conclusion that I had come to later in the thread. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Browsing offline filesystems
Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Browsing offline filesystems
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. Er... you can use wget and create a local cache of said directory... HTH Nuno Magalhães -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
Er... you can use wget and create a local cache of said directory... Thank you, Nuno. However, the other filesystems have tens of gigabytes that I do not want to copy. I only want to know which files are there, not to have the actual files themselves. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
Thank you, Nuno. However, the other filesystems have tens of gigabytes that I do not want to copy. I only want to know which files are there, not to have the actual files themselves. If you want just the names, not the content... then it would probably be a very weird combination of ls, grep and cut, unless there's some proggie that'll do that for you (in perl maybe?). Plus mkdir to preserve the hierarchy, unless absolute paths suffice. Nuno Magalhães -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
Nuno Magalhães wrote: Thank you, Nuno. However, the other filesystems have tens of gigabytes that I do not want to copy. I only want to know which files are there, not to have the actual files themselves. If you want just the names, not the content... then it would probably be a very weird combination of ls, grep and cut, unless there's some proggie that'll do that for you (in perl maybe?). Plus mkdir to preserve the hierarchy, unless absolute paths suffice. Nuno Magalhães $ find specific directoryfilelist.txt like $ find ~/hugeDirectory/filelist.txt generates you a textfile with a list of all files, directories (and special files). Should be enough. To search, use less or grep. vi could block your system for some minutes. I am not aware of some caching filesystem, which only caches the directory structure, without the files content. Best regards, Benjamin Schmidt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
$ find specific directoryfilelist.txt like $ find ~/hugeDirectory/filelist.txt generates you a textfile with a list of all files, directories (and special files). Should be enough. To search, use less or grep. vi could block your system for some minutes. I am not aware of some caching filesystem, which only caches the directory structure, without the files content. Thanks, Benjamin. This got me going on a shell script that uses find, mkdir, and touch to recreate the file system. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. One thing you could do is to copy the mlocate.db from your laptop to the other system and do 'locate -d laptop.db foo.txt' -- 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Techno. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:11:27PM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: $ find specific directoryfilelist.txt like $ find ~/hugeDirectory/filelist.txt generates you a textfile with a list of all files, directories (and special files). Should be enough. To search, use less or grep. vi could block your system for some minutes. I am not aware of some caching filesystem, which only caches the directory structure, without the files content. Thanks, Benjamin. This got me going on a shell script that uses find, mkdir, and touch to recreate the file system. You may want to use: $ ls -laR $ tree -a -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
You may want to use: $ ls -laR $ tree -a Thanks, I did not know about tree. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On 2009-02-10_12:56:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. -- Dotan Cohen The -s option in cp makes it create soft links rather than a actual copy of leaf files. You can use this to create a pure softlink copy of whatever structure you are interested in, and then copy this to the other computer. You will get on the other computer, the whole structure with each actual file represented by a broken softlink. This is like what you might get with tree, but the visual and keystoke interaction will be entirely the same as if you were searching on the computer where the data really is. Except that ... you find a broken link rather than the data. But now you know its there, and what you need to do to get it. I haven't done it, but I think it will work. Try it and let me know. I'm interested in finding out. ;-) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
2009/2/10 Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net: On 2009-02-10_12:56:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. -- Dotan Cohen The -s option in cp makes it create soft links rather than a actual copy of leaf files. You can use this to create a pure softlink copy of whatever structure you are interested in, and then copy this to the other computer. You will get on the other computer, the whole structure with each actual file represented by a broken softlink. This is like what you might get with tree, but the visual and keystoke interaction will be entirely the same as if you were searching on the computer where the data really is. Except that ... you find a broken link rather than the data. But now you know its there, and what you need to do to get it. I haven't done it, but I think it will work. Try it and let me know. I'm interested in finding out. ;-) Amazing , Paul. This is the command that I used: $ cp -sR /path/to/remote/system . And now I have the whole remote filesystem tree mirrored here. Better yet, when the system is mounted then the links work! Thanks! -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:47:12AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-10_12:56:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. The -s option in cp makes it create soft links rather than a actual copy of leaf files. You can use this to create a pure softlink copy of whatever structure you are interested in, and then copy this to the other computer. You will get on the other computer, the whole structure with each actual file represented by a broken softlink. But the permissions would be not useful, with all bits set, e.g., lrwxrwxrwx 1 ken ken 27 2009-02-10 10:04 Quote.pdf - ../Quote.pdf Seems like this might need another step to represent the permissions properly. Ken This is like what you might get with tree, but the visual and keystoke interaction will be entirely the same as if you were searching on the computer where the data really is. Except that ... you find a broken link rather than the data. But now you know its there, and what you need to do to get it. I haven't done it, but I think it will work. Try it and let me know. I'm interested in finding out. ;-) -- Ken Irving -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On 2009-02-10_10:12:03, Ken Irving wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:47:12AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-10_12:56:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. The -s option in cp makes it create soft links rather than a actual copy of leaf files. You can use this to create a pure softlink copy of whatever structure you are interested in, and then copy this to the other computer. You will get on the other computer, the whole structure with each actual file represented by a broken softlink. But the permissions would be not useful, with all bits set, e.g., lrwxrwxrwx 1 ken ken 27 2009-02-10 10:04 Quote.pdf - ../Quote.pdf Seems like this might need another step to represent the permissions properly. Ken It works fine if you are the same user number on the two machines. On all my machines, I am user 1000, for example. If I were to install a different distribution that starts user numbering at 500, things would be a mess, unless someone on the list knows a trick... -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On 02/10/2009 02:55 PM, Paul E Condon wrote: [snip] It works fine if you are the same user number on the two machines. On all my machines, I am user 1000, for example. If I were to install a different distribution that starts user numbering at 500, things would be a mess, unless someone on the list knows a trick... I *think*, though, that 1000 as a base for meatbag accounts is standard in all distros, and has been for quite a while. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Supporting World Peace Through Nuclear Pacification -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Browsing offline filesystems
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:55:13PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-10_10:12:03, Ken Irving wrote: On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 11:47:12AM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: On 2009-02-10_12:56:53, Dotan Cohen wrote: Is there a tool that I can use to browse an offline file system, ie, to cache it's directory structure and have it browsable? I have a small home network with a laptop, and often I need to know what's on any particular machine that is not present at the moment. The -s option in cp makes it create soft links rather than a actual copy of leaf files. You can use this to create a pure softlink copy of whatever structure you are interested in, and then copy this to the other computer. You will get on the other computer, the whole structure with each actual file represented by a broken softlink. But the permissions would be not useful, with all bits set, e.g., lrwxrwxrwx 1 ken ken 27 2009-02-10 10:04 Quote.pdf - ../Quote.pdf Seems like this might need another step to represent the permissions properly. It works fine if you are the same user number on the two machines. On all my machines, I am user 1000, for example. If I were to install a different distribution that starts user numbering at 500, things would be a mess, unless someone on the list knows a trick... I was thinking more of the permission bits than the user group, since the permissions of the symlinks don't reflect those of the target files. Maybe that's not an issue, though (the OP seemed to be happy w/ your solution). -- Ken Irving -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
