Re: Wiki Debian "Release page" should have template (Was Re: Buster no release file)

[Robbi Nespu]

On 7/20/21 11:34 PM, Robbi Nespu wrote:

I send out this email first. So I can have a link to attach on my report 
bug later. Will replying this thread later with report bugs number, I 
hope this will be useful to prevent issue like this.


Thanks to Greg and Paul for great contribution on Debian Wiki.

p/s: Wiki Debian "Release page" == 
https://wiki.debian.org/Debian




Here the bug report https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=991322

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Wiki Debian "Release page" should have template (Was Re: Buster no release file)

[Robbi Nespu]

On 7/11/21 6:44 AM, Greg Wooledge wrote:

I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
want you to have that information.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22

You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.

I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.



I don't agree calling someone asshole but I  agree with Greg in-term of 
sometimes someone make Debian Wiki less informative and less useful.


This is great example, this is what I see what happening on the time line..

Timeline 1: Greg put useful information 
https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=21=22


Timeline 2: PaulWise revert the changes as he comment is as unnecessary 
changes https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=21=23


On timeline 1 and 2, The class issue are Greg added useful information 
and PaulWise remove it / revert it  (to me it likely want to tidy up and 
make it uniform like others "Debian Release" pages)


Both have own perspective and good attention.

Wiki are great in term of collective information but quite really-ugly 
on deciding which "information" should be put here and which should 
not.. worst, there is no template to follow as far I check. Plus, I 
can't found how to create template on Debian Wiki.


So.. Greg and Paul have clash on something important here. (Too be 
honest, I wish Debian move to Wiki with pull-request approval type 
rather just who-ever have Wiki approved account can do change)


The best solution and improvement are to send report to bug list as 
wishlist's to have a standard template for this "Debian Release" pages 
and this template should have standard sources.list or a link to 
https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList (this wiki page also need 
improvement, IMHO)


I send out this email first. So I can have a link to attach on my report 
bug later. Will replying this thread later with report bugs number, I 
hope this will be useful to prevent issue like this.


Thanks to Greg and Paul for great contribution on Debian Wiki.

p/s: Wiki Debian "Release page" == 
https://wiki.debian.org/Debian


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Re: Buster no release file

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Jul 2021 at 21:03:27 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 02:57:24PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > > Revert the change or communicate with the edior. Maybe he has a
> > > persuasive argument?

I wrote the previous two sentences. What is gained by not crediting,
acknowledging or referencing a user's post? I wish it wasn't harder
for people to know who is involved in a thread and what they wrote.
 
> > In my experience, "communicate with the editor" is the second step, the
> > first step being "try to figure out how to communicate with the editor".
> 
> I think this was settled: he's a well-known Debian maintainer, after all.

True in this case but, unfortunately, quite a number of editors don't
register a contact point.

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Re: Buster no release file

[Brian]

On Mon 12 Jul 2021 at 09:46:37 -, Curt wrote:

> On 2021-07-12, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> >
> > Is such duplication really helpful?
> 
> The answer is manifestly yes, unless you're unable to conceive of
> someone coming across the information in the wiki rather than in the
> voluminous release notes. 
> 
> > If the Release Notes are unsuitable for whatever purpose, what can be
> > done to make them better?
> 
> This is a complete straw man. If you want people to be aware of some
> essential bit of information, a redundancy of sources is beneficial.
> That's why information campaigns *disseminate* information in a number
> of media, and in a number of ways. There is no rationality behind
> imposing a mutual exclusivity in this case; to the contrary, experience
> would argue against it.

I think this is a very reasonable point of view. A prominent link to
the Release Notes is necessary on the wiki page but, as a service to
users, pointing out what may be considered of interest (with linis)
is not likely to be harmful. Repetition can serve a useful purpose,
especially if it is accompanied by some explanatory text.

-- 
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Re: Buster no release file

[Curt]

On 2021-07-12, Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
>
> Is such duplication really helpful?

The answer is manifestly yes, unless you're unable to conceive of
someone coming across the information in the wiki rather than in the
voluminous release notes. 

> If the Release Notes are unsuitable for whatever purpose, what can be
> done to make them better?

This is a complete straw man. If you want people to be aware of some
essential bit of information, a redundancy of sources is beneficial.
That's why information campaigns *disseminate* information in a number
of media, and in a number of ways. There is no rationality behind
imposing a mutual exclusivity in this case; to the contrary, experience
would argue against it.

Re: Buster no release file

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Sb, 10 iul 21, 18:44:47, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> want you to have that information.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22

According to the diff the information was replaced with a pointer to the 
release information for buster on the website.

Seems to me like an attempt to avoid duplication (which can easily 
result in information get out of sync)[1].

My (probably biased) view is that also the NewIn pages are 
duplicating a lot of information that either belongs in the Release 
Notes (please file bugs against the package 'release-notes') or is 
already included there.

Is such duplication really helpful?

If the Release Notes are unsuitable for whatever purpose, what can be 
done to make them better?


Kind regards,
Andrei
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Re: Buster no release file

[Stefan Monnier]

> Revert the change or communicate with the edior. Maybe he has a
> persuasive argument?

In my experience, "communicate with the editor" is the second step, the
first step being "try to figure out how to communicate with the editor".


Stefan

Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 07:44:07PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> On Sun 11 Jul 2021 at 20:27:23 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:32:35PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > > > Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.
> > > 
> > > Already happening, sorry to say.
> > 
> > Why sorry? [...]

> I'm lost. Variable change? A link from either of you, please.

The "master" and "slave" terms come to mind, see [1] for an example.
My take? I think it's irrelevant, but feel free to open a new thread
if you're (still) curious. But I don't think my take is that interesting,
anyway :)

> > Electrical code changes, too [...]

> Talk about a change of subject!

πάντα ρέι [1] ;-)

Cheers
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panta_rhei_(Heraclitus)
 - tomás


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Re: Buster no release file

[tomas]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 02:57:24PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > Revert the change or communicate with the edior. Maybe he has a
> > persuasive argument?
> 
> In my experience, "communicate with the editor" is the second step, the
> first step being "try to figure out how to communicate with the editor".

I think this was settled: he's a well-known Debian maintainer, after all.

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Jul 2021 at 20:27:23 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:32:35PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > > > Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.
> > 
> > Already happening, sorry to say.
> 
> Why sorry? That was the point of my "missive". There are much worse
> things around us happening right now. Perhaps there /is/ a reason for
> that variable change, after all. Argue with the folks proposing the
> change (but be open and prepared to be convinced... otherwise you have
> no right to expect convincing others ;-D

I'm lost. Variable change? A link from either of you, please.
> 
> [...]
> 
> > Most of the above is mans own inhumanity to man [...]
> 
> > but being forced to work is not necessarily abuse [...]
> 
> I meant abuse *and* child labour; views on the latter change, as
> everything else.

OK.

> Electrical code changes, too -- you can't wire
> a house nowadays as if it were 1923. You might get in hot water
> for that ;-)

Talk about a change of subject!

-- 
Brian.

Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 12:32:35PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:

[...]

> > > Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.
> 
> Already happening, sorry to say.

Why sorry? That was the point of my "missive". There are much worse
things around us happening right now. Perhaps there /is/ a reason for
that variable change, after all. Argue with the folks proposing the
change (but be open and prepared to be convinced... otherwise you have
no right to expect convincing others ;-D

[...]

> Most of the above is mans own inhumanity to man [...]

> but being forced to work is not necessarily abuse [...]

I meant abuse *and* child labour; views on the latter change, as
everything else. Electrical code changes, too -- you can't wire
a house nowadays as if it were 1923. You might get in hot water
for that ;-)

P.S: You have over two decades on me, BTW :)

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Buster no release file

[Brian]

On Sun 11 Jul 2021 at 14:08:24 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 07:01:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
> >  * I do not understand what the issue is.
> 
> The issue is that there is a self-appointed "wiki-owners' association"
> that will undo any efforts one may make to try to improve the wiki.
> Certain pages are "sacred" and must be kept in a specific form, because
> that's the status quo, and the status quo is more important than
> usefulness.
> 
> It's never worth getting into an edit war against these cabals, because
> you (the outsider) will always lose.  The status quo will prevail.  All
> hail the status quo.

There isn't any cabal; just interested, concerned and active users
of the wiki.

Revert the change or communicate with the edior. Maybe he has a
persuasive argument?

-- 
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Re: Buster no release file

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 07:01:39PM +0100, Brian wrote:
>  * I do not understand what the issue is.

The issue is that there is a self-appointed "wiki-owners' association"
that will undo any efforts one may make to try to improve the wiki.
Certain pages are "sacred" and must be kept in a specific form, because
that's the status quo, and the status quo is more important than
usefulness.

It's never worth getting into an edit war against these cabals, because
you (the outsider) will always lose.  The status quo will prevail.  All
hail the status quo.

Re: Buster no release file

[Brian]

On Sat 10 Jul 2021 at 18:44:47 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:

[...]

> I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> want you to have that information.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22
> 
> You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
> Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.
> 
> I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.

I considered re-editing the wiki to meet your concerns but

 * I could end up being put in the same category as another editor.
 * The edit was made almost two years ago and was unnoticed.
 * I do not understand what the issue is.
 * It's a wiki. Sympathisers with your cause may have their own plans.
 * I have trouble with posts containing threatening language.
 * Ruffled feathers can be preened.
 * Why me?

-- 
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Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[Gene Heskett]

On Sunday 11 July 2021 08:29:52 to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 01:05:44PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> > On 2021-07-11 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > >So please, pretty please: calm down :)
> >
> > You are correct, I have no idea of the individuals.
>
> Thanks :)
>
> > Guess I am overwhelmed by the turn society has taken.
>
> Who is not. Life's always beeen outrageous (I'm an old guy, believe me
> :)
>
> I think the art is to use that ourtrage to try to change things,
> instead of slinging it at one's co-humans (who might themselves be
> outraged, but from a different POV and thusly for different reasons).
> Not that *I* manage as I wish I did...

Me too Tomas, and I think I have at least a decade on you, if I don't get 
shot for refusing the shot, I'll be 87 in early October. I found a daily 
St. Johns Wort in my pilltainer helps to tame the raging bull in me. But 
not enough to make me take back what I didn't sell. :)

> > Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.

Already happening, sorry to say.

> I'm sure that happens somewhere, some time. OTOH, worse things happen,
> too. Someone is being murdered right now. Kids are starving, deprived
> of schooling, being abused of or forced to work. Lotsa things to do!

Most of the above is mans own inhumanity to man, but being forced to work 
is not necessarily abuse, it was the rule in the house I grew up in with 
a stepfather, who was first an honest man and taught me by example in 
that dept, so one of the rules was I went to school or I got a job. I 
helped him build a house on a cut off corner of a field my grandfather 
gave us in the aftermath of WW_II in 1946, and at 12 years old, I wired 
that house for electricity.  And when I turned 21 and could, I thought 
enough of the man who raised me to change my name to match his. That is 
respect. And it didn't cost an arm and leg for the adoption papers which 
in Iowa, are a legal racket for the lawyers.

> Cheers

Back at-cha Tomas.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 01:05:44PM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-07-11 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

[...]

> >So please, pretty please: calm down :)
> 
> You are correct, I have no idea of the individuals.

Thanks :)

> Guess I am overwhelmed by the turn society has taken.

Who is not. Life's always beeen outrageous (I'm an old guy, believe me :)

I think the art is to use that ourtrage to try to change things, instead
of slinging it at one's co-humans (who might themselves be outraged, but
from a different POV and thusly for different reasons). Not that *I*
manage as I wish I did...

> Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.

I'm sure that happens somewhere, some time. OTOH, worse things happen,
too. Someone is being murdered right now. Kids are starving, deprived
of schooling, being abused of or forced to work. Lotsa things to do!

Cheers
 - t


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Re: Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[mick crane]

On 2021-07-11 12:01, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:18:37AM +0100, mick crane wrote:

On 2021-07-10 23:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:

>I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
control freaks are the biggest problem facing society today.


Now calling someone "asshole" in public is rather extreme; I can fully
understand Greg's anger, but still.

Mass-jumping on someone without having even tried to contact him 
(perhaps
it was a stupid misunderstanding, a brain fart, a fat finger or 
something

my fantasy fails to come up with right now)... well, I hope that's not
the style around here. Perhaps Twwatty or Fakebook (or whatsitiscalled)
provide that kind of thrill.

So please, pretty please: calm down :)


You are correct, I have no idea of the individuals.
Guess I am overwhelmed by the turn society has taken.
Next we will be banning variable names for being inappropriate.
mick
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Re: Buster no release file

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:18:37AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-07-10 23:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> > I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
> control freaks are the biggest problem facing society today.
> mick
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> 

Folks,

Rather than call people assholes and control freaks: please look at the local
context. Bullseye - Debian 11 - is potentially to be released in three weeks.

There's an amount of wiki gardening going on to tidy up, get translations
sorted, update pages.  When Bullseye comes along, Buster drops to oldstable 
and another year or so of support, Stretch drops to oldoldstable and support 
by the LTS team and so it goes. The wiki is always in flux, some of it out 
of date, much of it needing revision: if you wanted, you could get an account 
yourselves. 

Elsewhere in the Debin wiki - under SourcesList - which is a logical place,
maybe, https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList i a complete sources list for 
buster which also explains clearly how to add contrib and non-free if you
need them. I'm guessing that will be replaced in due course for one for
Bullseye. NOTE WELL: There is a change in format for the security sources
in Bullseye which is well covered in the draft release notes and elsewhere.

Respect goes all around - easily upwards to some people who have been around 
longer/may know more/ are helpful/give good advice, are friendly, downwards 
to people who may know less than you/whom you can help and sideways to your 
peers. At any given time, each of you occupies one or more of those positions 
for the others around you on this list and inside/outside Debian.

Try to be maybe a bit more thoughtful as to the effect such posts have?

All the very best, as ever,

Andy Cater

Cool down... [was: Buster no release file]

[tomas]

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 10:18:37AM +0100, mick crane wrote:
> On 2021-07-10 23:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> 
> >I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
> control freaks are the biggest problem facing society today.

Now calling someone "asshole" in public is rather extreme; I can fully
understand Greg's anger, but still.

Mass-jumping on someone without having even tried to contact him (perhaps
it was a stupid misunderstanding, a brain fart, a fat finger or something
my fantasy fails to come up with right now)... well, I hope that's not
the style around here. Perhaps Twwatty or Fakebook (or whatsitiscalled)
provide that kind of thrill.

So please, pretty please: calm down :)

Cheers
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Re: Buster no release file

[mick crane]

On 2021-07-10 23:44, Greg Wooledge wrote:


I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.

control freaks are the biggest problem facing society today.
mick
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Re: Buster no release file

[Tixy]

On Sat, 2021-07-10 at 21:40 -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 09:25:51PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Saturday, July 10, 2021 06:44:47 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > > I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> > > the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> > > want you to have that information.
> > > 
> > > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22
> > > 
> > > You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
> > > Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.
> > > 
> > > I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
> > 
> > +1
> > 
> > Do you know him or have had any contact with him (other than by virtue of 
> > the 
> > change he made to the wiki)?
> 
> No, I've never heard of him before.

I've seen his name on various Debian lists and official contexts. If
you follow the link on the wiki diff [1] you'll see he's a Debian
project member and part of the wiki admin team.

[1] https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

If you look at the wiki page for GregWooledge there is no contact info
only a link to a page that starts with American political messages.

Fortunately, my first impressions of this Greg person were from
postings to this list, so to me he's this Bash expert and generally
technically sound guy who's worth listening to.

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Re: Buster no release file

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 09:25:51PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Saturday, July 10, 2021 06:44:47 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> > I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> > the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> > want you to have that information.
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22
> > 
> > You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
> > Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.
> > 
> > I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
> 
> +1
> 
> Do you know him or have had any contact with him (other than by virtue of the 
> change he made to the wiki)?

No, I've never heard of him before.

> I mean, it seems like if there was a good reason to delete that information 
> (which I can't imagine), he should have given a better explanation of why he 
> was deleting it.

I've dealt with people like this in other communities.  Some people
seem to feel that a wiki has a fixed format, and that certain pages
should *only* contain certain pieces of information, in a certain format,
and that any deviation from this historical format must be stamped out.

I don't know where this mindset comes from, but I'd bet there are
multiple Debian wiki editors who hold it.  There's rarely just one.
There's typically a self-appointed cabal.

If you ever wonder why the Debian wiki will never match the Arch wiki in
terms of quality, people like this are a part of the reason.

Re: Buster no release file

[rhkramer]

On Saturday, July 10, 2021 06:44:47 PM Greg Wooledge wrote:
> I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> want you to have that information.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22
> 
> You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
> Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.
> 
> I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.

+1

Do you know him or have had any contact with him (other than by virtue of the 
change he made to the wiki)?

I mean, it seems like if there was a good reason to delete that information 
(which I can't imagine), he should have given a better explanation of why he 
was deleting it.

Aside: I meant to write to you some weeks ago to thank you for the information 
you maintain in your wiki.  Thank you!

Re: Buster no release file

[Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside]

Hi,

> I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
> the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
> want you to have that information.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22
> 
> You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
> Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.
> 
> I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.
> 

Those are the type of plague that give free software community a really
bad image. That kind of really stupid action of erasing others work only
because we are able to do so.

Wikipedia had the same problem and had to lock some pages.
That's a sad person to act this way.

At least we can still find what you wrote by looking thru revision but
we have to know there's something to look for.

-- 
Polyna-Maude R.-Summerside
-Be smart, Be wise, Support opensource development



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Re: Buster no release file

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, Jul 10, 2021 at 03:28:27PM -0700, kris wrote:
> Long version of error message in activities software.
> Unable to dowmload updates: Failed to update cache: E: the
> repository /cdrom://Debian GNU/ Linux 10.10.0-Buster_-Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 2021069-16:12 Buster Release does not have release file.  

Unless you have a specific reason to keep trying to pull packages
from your DVD, you should probably just remove those lines, and replace
them with regular Internet sources.

> I should note i have seperate swap var partitions.

Irrelevant.

> etc/apt/source.list.d is empty. I have attached sources.list
> 

> # 
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
> 20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
> 20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-2 
> 20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib

You've got an Internet source for the security updates, so if that's
going to work, you should be able to use an Internet source for the
regular packages as well.

Remove all of the cdrom: lines (unless, as I said, you *really* need
to use them for some reason, and have made arrangements for the DVD
to be mounted at need), and replace them with a standard buster source.

I was going to link you to the DebianBuster wiki page where I had put
the standard sources.list for buster, but it appears someone doesn't
want you to have that information.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianBuster?action=diff=23=22

You can thank the person who goes by the name PaulWise for making your
Debian wiki a less informative and less useful place.

I *REALLY* and truly hate assholes like that.

Buster no release file

[kris]

Long version of error message in activities software.
Unable to dowmload updates: Failed to update cache: E: the
repository /cdrom://Debian GNU/ Linux 10.10.0-Buster_-Official amd64 DVD
Binary-1 2021069-16:12 Buster Release does not have release file.  
I should note i have seperate swap var partitions.
etc/apt/source.list.d is empty. I have attached sources.list

# 

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 
20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.10.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-2 
20210619-16:12]/ buster contrib main

deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib

# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib
# deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib