Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2008-06-17 Thread John Talbut

CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND is now CONFIG_HIBERNATION

See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=470861


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-04-01 Thread Nick Lidakis

Wayne Topa wrote:


Last try

1.  cd /usr/src/linux
less .config

Post the section starting with
#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#

  


#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
# CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_SBS is not set

#
# APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support
#
# CONFIG_APM is not set



2.  Tell us what kernel source you are using. 
ie dpkg -l linux-kernel |grep ^i


  

That command returns:
phobos:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18# dpkg -l linux-kernel |grep ^i

No packages found matching linux-kernel.

I am using the Debian kernel source 2.6.18. Got that from:  apt-get 
install linux-source-2.6.18.



3. aptitude install linux-kernel-{whatever version you want} from
{whichever dist you are using}

  


Huh? Please elaborate. Did you mean kernel-image-{whatever-version-I-want}?


Please reconfigure your Icedove mail headers.  You don't need to send
two copies of your mail to the list.  The Cc: is not necessaty.

Wayne

  

Sorry about that. Done.

I really appreciate your help with this.


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-04-01 Thread Wayne Topa
Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 
 Last try
 
 1.  cd /usr/src/linux
 less .config
 
 Post the section starting with
 #
 # Power management options (ACPI, APM)
 #
 
   
 
 #
 # Power management options (ACPI, APM)
 #
 CONFIG_PM=y
 CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
 # CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
 
 #
 # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
 #
 CONFIG_ACPI=y
 # CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
 # CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
 CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
 # CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is not set
 # CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set
 CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
 # CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK is not set
 CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
 CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
 # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
 # CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
 # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
 CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
 # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
 CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
 CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
 CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
 CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
 # CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set
 # CONFIG_ACPI_SBS is not set
 

Ahh.  This is a self compiled kernel.  Debian Kernel has mostly
everything set as modules.  I have 5 different 2.6.28 debian lernels
here and just checked all of them. in the ACPI section there are only
2 items that are 'not set'.
# CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set

I would suggest you try a kernel-image kernel-image-2.6-(386/686/k7)
depending on your processor.


 #
 # APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support
 #
 # CONFIG_APM is not set
 
 
 
 2.  Tell us what kernel source you are using. 
 ie dpkg -l linux-kernel |grep ^i
 
   
 That command returns:
 phobos:/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18# dpkg -l linux-kernel |grep ^i
 
 No packages found matching linux-kernel.


Yes, because I didn't proof read my message..  :-(

I meant to say  - dpkg -l linux-source* |grep ^i

here is what I show on my desktop

VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# dpkg -l linux-source* |grep ^i
ii  linux-source-2.6.18 2.6.18.dfsg.1-11 Linux kernel source for
version 2.6.18

and

VT1 root-3-TESTING:~# dpkg -l linux-headers* |grep ^i
ii  linux-headers-2.6.18-4 2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Common
header files for Linux 2.6.18
ii  linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7  2.6.18.dfsg.1-12 Header
files for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD K7

Notice I have two (2) kernel header files.  the K7 headers are used
because I have an athlon processor on my desktop.  My laptop needs
linux-headers-2.6.18-4-686 file instead of the -K7 headers.

 I am using the Debian kernel source 2.6.18. Got that from:  apt-get 
 install linux-source-2.6.18.

And you installed which linux-header file(s) before you tried to
configure that kernel?  If your answer is none, that probably is what
caused your original problem.

 
 Huh? Please elaborate. Did you mean kernel-image-{whatever-version-I-want}?

If you are compiling your own kernel, which it seems you are (or were)
you will be working with a linux-source-2.6.18 package.  If you are a
newbie, I would suggest you get your feet wet first and install an
image file instad of the source.  They are built to run on a 386 and
up, do not require you to configure/compile them, and will just work.
All but some (required to boot) options are compiled as modules.

Hope the abobe is clear and free of typo's.  Its late but I think I
caught them all.

Wayne

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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-30 Thread Wayne Topa
Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Stefan Monnier wrote:
 No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 from
 kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:
 
 
snip
 I considered high memory having an effect on this issue; I did have it 
 enabled since my machine has 2 gigs of ram. Disabling the 4 gig option 
 has no effect.
 
 Anybody else have any other suggestions?
 

Last try

1.  cd /usr/src/linux
less .config

Post the section starting with
#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#

2.  Tell us what kernel source you are using. 
ie dpkg -l linux-kernel |grep ^i

3. aptitude install linux-kernel-{whatever version you want} from
{whichever dist you are using}

Please reconfigure your Icedove mail headers.  You don't need to send
two copies of your mail to the list.  The Cc: is not necessaty.

Wayne

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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-29 Thread Nick Lidakis

Nick Lidakis wrote:

Stefan Monnier wrote:
No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 
2.6.20 from

kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:



The stock 2.6.18-4-686 kernel has it enabled, but the 
2.6.18-4-686-bigmem

doesn't have it at all (not even disabled).
Maybe that can help you,


Stefan who switched to the non-bigmem version, preferring 
s2disk

even at the cost of dropping from 4GB down to 3GB


  
I considered high memory having an effect on this issue; I did have it 
enabled since my machine has 2 gigs of ram. Disabling the 4 gig option 
has no effect.


Anybody else have any other suggestions?




No one?

Would someone be able post or email a .config (2.16.17 or greater) that 
has software suspend option enabled?


Thanks


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 20:46:23 -0400
Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nick Lidakis wrote:
  Stefan Monnier wrote:
  No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 
  2.6.20 from
  kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:
  
 
  The stock 2.6.18-4-686 kernel has it enabled, but the 
  2.6.18-4-686-bigmem
  doesn't have it at all (not even disabled).
  Maybe that can help you,
 
 
  Stefan who switched to the non-bigmem version, preferring 
  s2disk
  even at the cost of dropping from 4GB down to 3GB
 
 

  I considered high memory having an effect on this issue; I did have it 
  enabled since my machine has 2 gigs of ram. Disabling the 4 gig option 
  has no effect.
 
  Anybody else have any other suggestions?
 
 
 
 No one?
 
 Would someone be able post or email a .config (2.16.17 or greater) that 
 has software suspend option enabled?

Why don't you just see the .config from a stock Debian kernel?

Celejar


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote:

  I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine.
After
  reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages
  (http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am
stuck on
  one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel
option
  anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the
  debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org http://kernel.org 2.6.20
source; can't be found.
  Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options.
 
  Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:
 
  Your kernel doesn't support userspace software
  suspend
 
 
  Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please
  reconfigure your kernel to include
  CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
 
 
 
  Can someone point me in the right direction?

In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
Suspend'. 



I'm sorry for being slightly offtopic, but how can I know if my PC 
supports suspend-to-disk?
I frequently have several programs open and I sometimes keep the PC on 
overnight in order to have the same open programs in the morning. It 
would be better on the environment if I always powered down the computer.




The only way to find out is to try it.
The Debian stock kernel has suspend turned on.
The documentation text file I attached.

There is an improved version that needs a patch to the kernel:
http://www.suspend2.net/
has a well attended to mailing list. Active support.

I found that suspend from X did not work for me, at least it would not 
resume right.


After diddling with it for a couple of months, I gave up.

Hugo


















Some warnings, first.

 * BIG FAT WARNING *
 *
 * If you touch anything on disk between suspend and resume...
 *  ...kiss your data goodbye.
 *
 * If you do resume from initrd after your filesystems are mounted...
 *  ...bye bye root partition.
 *  [this is actually same case as above]
 *
 * If you have unsupported (*) devices using DMA, you may have some
 * problems. If your disk driver does not support suspend... (IDE does),
 * it may cause some problems, too. If you change kernel command line
 * between suspend and resume, it may do something wrong. If you change
 * your hardware while system is suspended... well, it was not good idea;
 * but it will probably only crash.
 *
 * (*) suspend/resume support is needed to make it safe.
 *
 * If you have any filesystems on USB devices mounted before software suspend,
 * they won't be accessible after resume and you may lose data, as though
 * you have unplugged the USB devices with mounted filesystems on them;
 * see the FAQ below for details.  (This is not true for more traditional
 * power states like standby, which normally don't turn USB off.)

You need to append resume=/dev/your_swap_partition to kernel command
line. Then you suspend by

echo shutdown  /sys/power/disk; echo disk  /sys/power/state

. If you feel ACPI works pretty well on your system, you might try

echo platform  /sys/power/disk; echo disk  /sys/power/state

. If you have SATA disks, you'll need recent kernels with SATA suspend
support. For suspend and resume to work, make sure your disk drivers
are built into kernel -- not modules. [There's way to make
suspend/resume with modular disk drivers, see FAQ, but you probably
should not do that.]

If you want to limit the suspend image size to N bytes, do

echo N  /sys/power/image_size

before suspend (it is limited to 500 MB by default).


Article about goals and implementation of Software Suspend for Linux

Author: G‚ábor Kuti
Last revised: 2003-10-20 by Pavel Machek

Idea and goals to achieve

Nowadays it is common in several laptops that they have a suspend button. It
saves the state of the machine to a filesystem or to a partition and switches
to standby mode. Later resuming the machine the saved state is loaded back to
ram and the machine can continue its work. It has two real benefits. First we
save ourselves the time machine goes down and later boots up, energy costs
are real high when running from batteries. The other gain is that we don't have 
to
interrupt our programs so processes that are calculating something for a long
time shouldn't need to be written interruptible.

swsusp saves the state of the machine into active swaps and then reboots or
powerdowns.  You must explicitly specify the swap partition to resume from with
``resume='' kernel option. If signature is found it loads and restores saved
state. If the option ``noresume'' is specified as a boot parameter, it skips
the resuming.

In the meantime while the system is suspended you should not add/remove any
of 

Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Lidakis

Celejar wrote:

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:29:40 -0400
Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine. After 
reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages 
(http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am stuck on 
one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel option 
anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the 
debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org 2.6.20 source; can't be found. 
Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options. 


Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:

Your kernel doesn't support userspace software 
suspend
   

Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
reconfigure your kernel to include

CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
 



Can someone point me in the right direction?



In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
Suspend'.

Celejar


  
No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 
from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:

[*] Power Management support
? ? [*] Legacy Power Management API (DEPRECATED)
? ? [ ] Power Management Debug Support
? ? [ ] Driver model /sys/devices/.../power/state files (DEPRECATED) (NEW)
? ? ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support ---
? ? APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support ---
? ? CPU Frequency scaling ---


And under ACPI:

[*] ACPI Support
? ?   AC Adapter
? ?   Battery
? ? * Button
? ?   Video
? ?   Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL)
? ? * Fan
? ?   Dock
? ? * Processor
? ? * Thermal Zone
? ?   ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras
? ?   IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras
? ?   Toshiba Laptop Extras
? ? (0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year
? ? [ ] Debug Statements
? ?   ACPI0004,PNP0A05 and PNP0A06 Container Driver (EXPERIMENTAL)
? ?   Smart Battery System (EXPERIMENTAL)
? ?


Now, the only thing I can think of is in regards to the error message I 
get whenever a new version of uwsusp get installed, which is:


Configuring uswsusp
?
? Your kernel doesn't support userspace software suspend
?
? Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
reconfigure your kernel to include

? CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
?
? Ok


So, how come software suspend is not listed under my kernel options??





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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 12:16:48 -0400
Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Celejar wrote:
  On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:29:40 -0400
  Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

  I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine. After 
  reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages 
  (http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am stuck on 
  one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel option 
  anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the 
  debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org 2.6.20 source; can't be found. 
  Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options. 
 
  Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:
 
  Your kernel doesn't support userspace software 
  suspend
 
  
 
  Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
  reconfigure your kernel to include
  CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
 

 
 
  Can someone point me in the right direction?
  
 
  In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
  Suspend'.
 
  Celejar
 
 

 No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 
 from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:
 [*] Power Management support
 ? ? [*] Legacy Power Management API (DEPRECATED)
 ? ? [ ] Power Management Debug Support
 ? ? [ ] Driver model /sys/devices/.../power/state files (DEPRECATED) (NEW)
 ? ? ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support ---
 ? ? APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support ---
 ? ? CPU Frequency scaling ---
 
 
 And under ACPI:
 
 [*] ACPI Support
 ? ?   AC Adapter
 ? ?   Battery
 ? ? * Button
 ? ?   Video
 ? ?   Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL)
 ? ? * Fan
 ? ?   Dock
 ? ? * Processor
 ? ? * Thermal Zone
 ? ?   ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras
 ? ?   IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras
 ? ?   Toshiba Laptop Extras
 ? ? (0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year
 ? ? [ ] Debug Statements
 ? ?   ACPI0004,PNP0A05 and PNP0A06 Container Driver (EXPERIMENTAL)
 ? ?   Smart Battery System (EXPERIMENTAL)
 ? ?
 
 
 Now, the only thing I can think of is in regards to the error message I 
 get whenever a new version of uwsusp get installed, which is:
 
 Configuring uswsusp
 ?
 ? Your kernel doesn't support userspace software suspend
 ?
 ? Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
 reconfigure your kernel to include
 ? CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
 ?
 ? Ok
 
 
 So, how come software suspend is not listed under my kernel options??

Well, like many kernel options, it does depend on other things. For
example, if swap (General Setup / support for paging anonymous memory
(swap)) isn't enabled, you won't get an option for software suspend.
From 'kernel/power/Kconfig':

 config SOFTWARE_SUSPEND
 bool Software Suspend
 depends on PM  SWAP  ((X86  (!SMP || SUSPEND_SMP)  !X86_PAE) 
 ||
 ((FRV || PPC32)  !SMP))
 ---help---
   Enable the possibility of suspending the machine.
   It doesn't need ACPI or APM.
   You may suspend your machine by 'swsusp' or 'shutdown -z time'
   (patch for sysvinit needed).

Celejar


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Lidakis

Celejar wrote:


Well, like many kernel options, it does depend on other things. For
example, if swap (General Setup / support for paging anonymous memory
(swap)) isn't enabled, you won't get an option for software suspend.
From 'kernel/power/Kconfig':

  

config SOFTWARE_SUSPEND
bool Software Suspend
depends on PM  SWAP  ((X86  (!SMP || SUSPEND_SMP)  !X86_PAE) ||
((FRV || PPC32)  !SMP))
---help---
  Enable the possibility of suspending the machine.
  It doesn't need ACPI or APM.
  You may suspend your machine by 'swsusp' or 'shutdown -z time'
  (patch for sysvinit needed).



Celejar

  
That option is enabled. Any other suggestions? Where did you find the 
aforementioned documentation?


Nick




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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 14:12:25 -0400
Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Celejar wrote:
 
  Well, like many kernel options, it does depend on other things. For
  example, if swap (General Setup / support for paging anonymous memory
  (swap)) isn't enabled, you won't get an option for software suspend.
  From 'kernel/power/Kconfig':
 

  config SOFTWARE_SUSPEND
  bool Software Suspend
  depends on PM  SWAP  ((X86  (!SMP || SUSPEND_SMP)  
  !X86_PAE) ||
  ((FRV || PPC32)  !SMP))
  ---help---
Enable the possibility of suspending the machine.
It doesn't need ACPI or APM.
You may suspend your machine by 'swsusp' or 'shutdown -z time'
(patch for sysvinit needed).
  
 
  Celejar
 

 That option is enabled. Any other suggestions? Where did you find the 
 aforementioned documentation?

In /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.18/kernel/power/Kconfig (on my system).
Check everything in the 'depends' line.

Celejar


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Celejar wrote:
 
 In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
 Suspend'.
 
 Celejar
 
 
   
 No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 
 from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:

Yes it is if your using a Debian kernel

uname -a
Linux buddy 2.6.18 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 20:09:49 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

less /boot/config-2.6.18
snip 
#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
# CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION=
CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP=y

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m
CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m
CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m
CONFIG_ACPI_SBS=m
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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Lidakis

Wayne Topa wrote:

Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
  

Celejar wrote:


In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
Suspend'.

Celejar


 
  
No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 
from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:



Yes it is if your using a Debian kernel

uname -a
Linux buddy 2.6.18 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 20:09:49 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux

less /boot/config-2.6.18
snip 
#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
# CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y
CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION=
CONFIG_SUSPEND_SMP=y

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_FS=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_SLEEP_PROC_SLEEP is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_AC=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=m
CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=m
CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY=m
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m
CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK=m
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=m
CONFIG_ACPI_HOTPLUG_CPU=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=m
CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS=m
CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=m
CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA=m
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER=m
CONFIG_ACPI_SBS=m
snip




  
I posted clearly that those options were not available and even copied 
over the menuconfig screen in my previous post. So, you telling me that 
the options are there helps me little. What I am asking (and, yes, I did 
try Google) is: I'm I misconfiguring the kernel config in such a way 
that those options don't show up?


Here:

#
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
#
CONFIG_PM=y
CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y
# CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set

#
# ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support
#
CONFIG_ACPI=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_AC is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_DOCK is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y
CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_IBM is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0
# CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set
CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y
CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y
CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y
CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER=y
# CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set
# CONFIG_ACPI_SBS is not set



See? No options for software suspend.


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Wayne Topa
Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
 Wayne Topa wrote:
 Nick Lidakis([EMAIL PROTECTED]) is reported to have said:
   
 Celejar wrote:
 
 In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
 Suspend'.
 
 Celejar
 
 
  
   
 No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 
 from kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:
 
 Yes it is if your using a Debian kernel
 
 uname -a
 Linux buddy 2.6.18 #1 SMP Sat Feb 10 20:09:49 EST 2007 i686 GNU/Linux
 
snip 

 I posted clearly that those options were not available and even copied 
 over the menuconfig screen in my previous post. So, you telling me that 
 the options are there helps me little. What I am asking (and, yes, I did 
 try Google) is: I'm I misconfiguring the kernel config in such a way 
 that those options don't show up?
 
 Here:
snip old info

You posted the 'menuconfig screen' I posted the config file.  Did you
compare your config file with what I posted?

1.  The kernel config file in /boot/config-{version} shows all of the
  config options that are available.  Those you configured and those
  that you didn't.

2.  If you had the same kernel and headers that I have, both of our
  config files would have the same number of entries weither we
  configurd them the same or not.  The only differences would be
  =y, =m, or is not set, after the options.

The config I posted was from 

linux-source-2.6.18 2.6.18.dfsg.1-11
Linux kernel source for version 2.6.18 with Debian patche

linux-headers-2.6.18-4-k7   2.6.18.dfsg.1-11 Header files
for Linux 2.6.18 on AMD K7

If we are both using the _same_ kernel source and headers then I sure
don't what is wrong. 

Wayne

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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Lidakis

Nick Lidakis wrote:
  I posted clearly that those options were not available and even 
copied over the menuconfig screen in my previous post. So, you telling 
me that the options are there helps me little. What I am asking (and, 
yes, I did try Google) is: I'm I misconfiguring the kernel config in 
such a way that those options don't show up?


Yikes! My apologies Wayne. After rereading my post, it really sounds 
like a smart ass reply. I really did mean it in a most factual way; 
stating that I did try to find a solution, on my own, before posting to 
the list.


Sincerely,

Nick


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Stefan Monnier
 No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 from
 kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:

The stock 2.6.18-4-686 kernel has it enabled, but the 2.6.18-4-686-bigmem
doesn't have it at all (not even disabled).
Maybe that can help you,


Stefan who switched to the non-bigmem version, preferring s2disk
even at the cost of dropping from 4GB down to 3GB


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-27 Thread Nick Lidakis

Stefan Monnier wrote:

No. It is not. That's why I went to the trouble of downloading 2.6.20 from
kernel.org. These are my options in either kernel:



The stock 2.6.18-4-686 kernel has it enabled, but the 2.6.18-4-686-bigmem
doesn't have it at all (not even disabled).
Maybe that can help you,


Stefan who switched to the non-bigmem version, preferring s2disk
even at the cost of dropping from 4GB down to 3GB


  
I considered high memory having an effect on this issue; I did have it 
enabled since my machine has 2 gigs of ram. Disabling the 4 gig option 
has no effect.


Anybody else have any other suggestions?



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CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-26 Thread Nick Lidakis
I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine. After 
reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages 
(http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am stuck on 
one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel option 
anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the 
debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org 2.6.20 source; can't be found. 
Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options. 


Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:

Your kernel doesn't support userspace software 
suspend
  

   Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
reconfigure your kernel to include

   CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.




Can someone point me in the right direction?

By the way, the hardware is an Asus A8N-SLI desktop motherboard.

Thanks.


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-26 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 01:29:40 -0400
Nick Lidakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine. After 
 reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages 
 (http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am stuck on 
 one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel option 
 anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the 
 debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org 2.6.20 source; can't be found. 
 Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options. 
 
 Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:
 
 Your kernel doesn't support userspace software 
 suspend
   
  
 
 Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please 
 reconfigure your kernel to include
 CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.
   

 
 
 Can someone point me in the right direction?

In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
Suspend'.

Celejar


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Re: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y, ACPI, and uswsusp

2007-03-26 Thread Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto


 I am attempting to get uswsusp working on my Debian Sid machine. After
 reading the docs, a couple of SuSe web pages
 (http://en.opensuse.org/S2disk) regarding s2ram and s2disk I am stuck on
 one detail: CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y. I can not find this kernel option
 anywhere when attempting to configure the kernel. Whether it's the
 debian 2.6.18 source or the kernel.org 2.6.20 source; can't be found.
 Not under the ACPI options, nor the CPU frequency scaling options.

 Attempting to dpkg-reconfigure uswsusp results in:

 Your kernel doesn't support userspace software
 suspend


 Your kernel doesn't support userspace sofware suspend. Please
 reconfigure your kernel to include
 CONFIG_SOFTWARE_SUSPEND=y and recompile.



 Can someone point me in the right direction?

In 2.6.18, it's under 'Power Management Options'. Check 'Software
Suspend'.



I'm sorry for being slightly offtopic, but how can I know if my PC supports
suspend-to-disk?
I frequently have several programs open and I sometimes keep the PC on
overnight in order to have the same open programs in the morning. It would
be better on the environment if I always powered down the computer.


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