CVS & Co
Hi! I want to use CVS for systemadministration. I have never used one so far, so my knowledge is very poor about that topic. Actually our programmers and another administrator is using eclipse. Unfortunately i don't know which package i have to install for using cvs with eclipse. Can i use other cvs software to use a repository created and further used with eclipse. Or do i run into problems doing that? I have found subversion and gti so far, but i don't know which is the right one. What would you use in my situation? I prefer a console based application. Thx Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: CVS & Co
On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:09:22AM +0200, Alex Huth wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use CVS for systemadministration. You need to provide CVS services (a CVS server) or you actually want to use CVS? If the latter: any reason you don't use Subversion (svn, package: subversion) or some distributed version control system (git, hg, bzr)? > I have never used one so far, so > my knowledge is very poor about that topic. > > Actually our programmers and another administrator is using eclipse. > Unfortunately i don't know which package i have to install for using cvs with > eclipse. > > Can i use other cvs software to use a repository created and further used with > eclipse. Or do i run into problems doing that? I have found subversion and gti > so far, but i don't know which is the right one. What do you need it for? > > What would you use in my situation? I prefer a console based application. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: CVS & Co
In <20090819090922.gc7...@borusse.tmr.net>, Alex Huth wrote: >I want to use CVS for systemadministration. I have never used one so far, > so my knowledge is very poor about that topic. Unless you have existing CVS clients, you should use a different VCS. Even if you have existing CVS clients, some VCS can pretend to be CVS and they may be preferable if you can migrate your data easily. I'm not such what you mean "for systemadministration". I've heard of keeping /etc or other configurations in a VCS but not done so myself. I believe there are "higher-level" tools to accomplish this, especially since most VCSes intentionally don't store the full permission bits of files and that can be critical for secure system administration. >What would you use in my situation? I prefer a console based application. I've used CVS and Subversion with good success, but I am convinced that a DVCS is a better model. As far as DVCS, I am most familiar with git; it seems to perform quite well (unless you are storing rather large files) and has a relatively low barrier-to-entry as far as infrastructure or library dependencies. It does expose some details of the DVCS internals that can confuse new users; Bazaar and Mercurial may be easier to learn. Darcs and Monotone are interesting, but I can't recommend them for most users/projects. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. b...@iguanasuicide.net ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.net/\_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: CVS & Co
Alex Huth wrote: > I want to use CVS for systemadministration. I have never used one so > far, so my knowledge is very poor about that topic. I use CVS for system administration by maintaining a sparse directory tree of the system files I change and checking that tree into CVS: http://www.nongnu.org/cvs/ I use 'diff -r' to compare the live file system against the CVS working tree and 'cp', 'mv', 'vim', etc., to enter/ revert/ merge changes. On Debian, you can install CVS with: # apt-get install cvs The canonical CVS documentation is the Cederqvist manual, which can be viewed with 'info': # info cvs I learned CVS from the first edition of "Open Source Development with CVS": http://cvsbook.red-bean.com/ There are a plethora of version control systems now available, "free" and otherwise. Which is "best" is a matter of requirements, consensus, and/or personal preference. CVS is still in common use and has met all of my version control needs for 8+ years (system administration and otherwise). Native CVS client binaries are available on many platforms, including those that I use. The command line interface is simple and readily scripted. The CVS repository file structure is straight-forward and the file format is simple, so it is easy to hack, backup, archive, restore, script, etc. (tread carefully!). There are many add-on tools which integrate with CVS: # apt-cache search cvs | egrep '^cvs' I assume that there are wrapper scripts which allow one to check-in all or part of the root file system to CVS, but I haven't sought them out. HTH, David p.s. CVS is based upon RCS and uses RCS-format repository files; it helps to understand the basics of RCS when you approach CVS: http://www.gnu.org/software/rcs/ apt-get install rcs p.p.s. RCS can also be used for system administration. Please note that, by default, the repository files are stored on the same file system as the working files. (CVS deployments typically have a server with clients connecting over SSH.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: CVS & Co
On Wed,19.Aug.09, 11:09:22, Alex Huth wrote: > Hi! > > I want to use CVS for systemadministration. I have never used one so far, so > my knowledge is very poor about that topic. > > Actually our programmers and another administrator is using eclipse. > Unfortunately i don't know which package i have to install for using cvs with > eclipse. > > Can i use other cvs software to use a repository created and further used with > eclipse. Or do i run into problems doing that? I have found subversion and gti > so far, but i don't know which is the right one. > > What would you use in my situation? I prefer a console based application. etckeeper is an application designed to keep your entire /etc under version control. By default it uses git, but can use others. It hooks into apt (and dpkg?) to trap all changes to /etc and also deals with file permissions (very important for things like the passwd file). It is a very good tool for what you seem to be asking. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
cvs problems using cvs co -r woody boot-floppies
Keep getting the exact error (when running cvs co -r woody boot-floppies) ... cvs server: Updating boot-floppies/special cvs server: Updating boot-floppies/special/tecra cvs server: Updating boot-floppies/special/v30 cvs server: Updating boot-floppies/utilities U boot-floppies/utilities/.cvsignore U boot-floppies/utilities/Makefile U boot-floppies/utilities/floppy_split.c U boot-floppies/utilities/floppy_split.h cvs server: Updating boot-floppies/utilities/bf-utf cvs [server aborted]: out of memory; can not allocate 26 bytes cvs [server aborted]: out of memory; can not allocate 79 bytes Who do I report this to. Is it my fault? (I am running the testing distribution) NOTE I keep getting the exact same error message and it always stops at the bf-utf line. No matter how often I run this ... -walter
