Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
(putting reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 01:53:38PM -0700, rose perry wrote: It was an app running that made it slwo. I got 1,25 gigs of ram and a 2 gig cpu. that for the link. From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net; debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? (putting this back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:46:18PM -0700, rose perry wrote: OkI used the ubuntu windows installer and rebooted to ubuntu, But it's painfully slow. But they got wireless working. No need for firmware. The slowness could be due to low memory, which you mentioned in an earlier message. How much memory do you have? If you're using Gnome with little memory (say, 256MB) you'll be better off using a lighter desktop. (Like lxde.) Now how do I get debian on here? I haven't tried installing Debian from an existing GNU/Linux installation but there are instructions at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd Don't know where you should put the firmware files but somebody else might. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2005161312.ga5...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
(putting reply back on the list) On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:45:18AM -0700, rose perry wrote: Is there a way to install from a xp partition with out haveing to use a cd? - Original Message - From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net; debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 1:49 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? (putting this back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:46:18PM -0700, rose perry wrote: OkI used the ubuntu windows installer and rebooted to ubuntu, But it's painfully slow. But they got wireless working. No need for firmware. The slowness could be due to low memory, which you mentioned in an earlier message. How much memory do you have? If you're using Gnome with little memory (say, 256MB) you'll be better off using a lighter desktop. (Like lxde.) Now how do I get debian on here? I haven't tried installing Debian from an existing GNU/Linux installation but there are instructions at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd Don't know where you should put the firmware files but somebody else might. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2005161353.gb5...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
Selim T. Erdogan, 5.11.2011: (putting reply back on the list) On Sat, Nov 05, 2011 at 08:45:18AM -0700, rose perry wrote: Is there a way to install from a xp partition with out haveing to use a cd? http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/msg00133.html had a link to instructions for installing from xp. I don't know any other way. (Those instructions talk about an iso file that you download onto your xp partition, but you don't have to make a cd.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2005162254.gd5...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
(putting your reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:42:47AM -0700, rose perry wrote: oh vmware used to load the os. - Original Message - From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? rose perry, 2.11.2011: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I installed straight from MS Windows for somebody once. It involved downloading some files to the hard drive (in MS Windows), putting them in a certain place, and then running an exe file. Can't remember the exact details since it's been quite a while but AFAICR I just followed instructions in the Debian installation manual. Looking around, I see that http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-win32 has instructions. It sounds like you need to download an installation image (iso file), which will contain the necessary files (setup.exe and others). I'm not sure how straightforward it is to get those files from the iso without writing it to a cd or usb stick, but somebody else might have suggestions on that. About the firmware, if you can obtain the necessary files, maybe you can try copying it to the same place on the the hard drive that you copy the Debian installation stuff to. I'm not sure what you mean by doing this with/without vmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2004142231.ga26...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
(putting your reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 07:00:48AM -0700, rose perry wrote: I cant run the install.bat from xp. It dispalys not enough memory. And its ment fpr 95 and other systems before xp. :( - Original Message - From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? rose perry, 2.11.2011: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I installed straight from MS Windows for somebody once. It involved downloading some files to the hard drive (in MS Windows), putting them in a certain place, and then running an exe file. Can't remember the exact details since it's been quite a while but AFAICR I just followed instructions in the Debian installation manual. Looking around, I see that http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-win32 has instructions. It sounds like you need to download an installation image (iso file), which will contain the necessary files (setup.exe and others). I'm not sure how straightforward it is to get those files from the iso without writing it to a cd or usb stick, but somebody else might have suggestions on that. About the firmware, if you can obtain the necessary files, maybe you can try copying it to the same place on the the hard drive that you copy the Debian installation stuff to. I'm not sure what you mean by doing this with/without vmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2004142340.gb26...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
Selim T. Erdogan, 4.11.2011: (putting your reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 03:42:47AM -0700, rose perry wrote: oh vmware used to load the os. If you mean using vmware somehow to load debian directly onto the hw, that I don't know about. If you mean installing a virtual machine like vmware onto windows xp, and then installing debian within this vm, that's possible. A couple of months ago I installed VirtualBox (virtualbox.org) on Windows and installed Debian squeeze into it. (This was MS Windows 7, I think, but it shouldn't be a problem with XP.) - Original Message - From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? rose perry, 2.11.2011: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I installed straight from MS Windows for somebody once. It involved downloading some files to the hard drive (in MS Windows), putting them in a certain place, and then running an exe file. Can't remember the exact details since it's been quite a while but AFAICR I just followed instructions in the Debian installation manual. Looking around, I see that http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-win32 has instructions. It sounds like you need to download an installation image (iso file), which will contain the necessary files (setup.exe and others). I'm not sure how straightforward it is to get those files from the iso without writing it to a cd or usb stick, but somebody else might have suggestions on that. About the firmware, if you can obtain the necessary files, maybe you can try copying it to the same place on the the hard drive that you copy the Debian installation stuff to. I'm not sure what you mean by doing this with/without vmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2004143651.gc26...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
Selim T. Erdogan, 4.11.2011: (putting your reply back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 07:00:48AM -0700, rose perry wrote: I cant run the install.bat from xp. It dispalys not enough memory. And its ment fpr 95 and other systems before xp. :( As I said, I don't remember the details because it was long ago, but I'm pretty sure I did it from XP. Where did you get the install.bat file from? I thought there was supposed to be a setup.exe file... (On the web I see reports of people doing it on XP.) - Original Message - From: Selim T. Erdogan se...@alumni.cs.utexas.edu To: rose perry v0r...@att.net Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Can I insall from xp partition? rose perry, 2.11.2011: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I installed straight from MS Windows for somebody once. It involved downloading some files to the hard drive (in MS Windows), putting them in a certain place, and then running an exe file. Can't remember the exact details since it's been quite a while but AFAICR I just followed instructions in the Debian installation manual. Looking around, I see that http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-win32 has instructions. It sounds like you need to download an installation image (iso file), which will contain the necessary files (setup.exe and others). I'm not sure how straightforward it is to get those files from the iso without writing it to a cd or usb stick, but somebody else might have suggestions on that. About the firmware, if you can obtain the necessary files, maybe you can try copying it to the same place on the the hard drive that you copy the Debian installation stuff to. I'm not sure what you mean by doing this with/without vmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2004144001.gd26...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
Brian wrote: On Thu 03 Nov 2011 at 17:29:57 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Well, I popped downstairs and asked my local computer consultant whether he could sell me a USB stick. He had a small one (yes, he said it was small) with only 4GB (which to me is vast) for only £15. I bought it, inserted it into my desktop which had 15 GBP!!! You were done. But it's worth the price for getting Debian installed. I must admit that the fact that I was done does rankle somewhat. It simply means that I shall never buy anything from him again. However, I now Debian wheezy working on my laptop. No more Ubuntu. Give me a Debian system any time. -- Sian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j9167g$80e$1...@speranza.aioe.org
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
(putting this back on the list) On Fri, Nov 04, 2011 at 12:46:18PM -0700, rose perry wrote: OkI used the ubuntu windows installer and rebooted to ubuntu, But it's painfully slow. But they got wireless working. No need for firmware. The slowness could be due to low memory, which you mentioned in an earlier message. How much memory do you have? If you're using Gnome with little memory (say, 256MB) you'll be better off using a lighter desktop. (Like lxde.) Now how do I get debian on here? I haven't tried installing Debian from an existing GNU/Linux installation but there are instructions at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-initrd Don't know where you should put the firmware files but somebody else might. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2004204904.ga22...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
On Wed, 02 Nov 2011 18:59:01 -0700, rose perry wrote: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. The installer allows you to put the firmware file into a floppy disk or USB flash drive and get it from there. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. I would go for the usual way to install any linux distribution which is downloading the ISO image (the first CD or DVD), then burn that file into an optical media (as a Boot image, nots as usual data) and then boot the computer from there. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. (...) Wow... could be possible that someone in the know can perform the installation for you? I say this because I'm afraid you are in a delicated situation/scneario for performing an OS install :-? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.11.03.17.02...@gmail.com
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
rose perry wrote: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I need an OS that challenges me. I'm bored, Extremely bored and sick of xp or wintendo! hehe desperately yours Tommy. I tried to load wheezy on my laptop, but the Debian installer asked for firmware from removable devices and gave floppies or a USB stick as alternatives. Well, I popped downstairs and asked my local computer consultant whether he could sell me a USB stick. He had a small one (yes, he said it was small) with only 4GB (which to me is vast) for only £15. I bought it, inserted it into my desktop which had Ubuntu on a second disk drive, mounted the drive, went to /lib/firmware and copied the firmware I wanted to the USB stick. I then removed the stick and stuck it into one of the USB slots on my laptop. Installed the wheezy DVD-R into the portable USB DVD-ROM drive, rebooted from the DVD-ROM drive and the Debian installer installed wheezy onto my laptop with no problems. It did not even ask for the required firmware---it must have detected it on the USB stick! Try wheezy and maybe your problem will disappear. Regards -- Sian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8uj2j$bid$1...@dont-email.me
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
On Thu 03 Nov 2011 at 17:29:57 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: Well, I popped downstairs and asked my local computer consultant whether he could sell me a USB stick. He had a small one (yes, he said it was small) with only 4GB (which to me is vast) for only £15. I bought it, inserted it into my desktop which had 15 GBP!!! You were done. But it's worth the price for getting Debian installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2003180825.GN21970@desktop
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 17:29:57 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: USB stick. He had a small one (yes, he said it was small) with only 4GB (which to me is vast) for only £15 LOL. A fiver at most. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8umra$fu6$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Can I insall from xp partition?
rose perry, 2.11.2011: Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I installed straight from MS Windows for somebody once. It involved downloading some files to the hard drive (in MS Windows), putting them in a certain place, and then running an exe file. Can't remember the exact details since it's been quite a while but AFAICR I just followed instructions in the Debian installation manual. Looking around, I see that http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s01.html.en#boot-win32 has instructions. It sounds like you need to download an installation image (iso file), which will contain the necessary files (setup.exe and others). I'm not sure how straightforward it is to get those files from the iso without writing it to a cd or usb stick, but somebody else might have suggestions on that. About the firmware, if you can obtain the necessary files, maybe you can try copying it to the same place on the the hard drive that you copy the Debian installation stuff to. I'm not sure what you mean by doing this with/without vmware. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2003210229.ga11...@cs.utexas.edu
Can I insall from xp partition?
Hello I'm trying to install debian but the debian installer from goodbye microsoft does not work, Because my network card requires Firmware. Nothing seems to work for me. So Im going to try and dl a cd or 2 to get it working, And install from XP if this is possible please let me know. Maybe freeware version of VMware? But I think I remember this was possible without vmware? As long as you had the data on xp. I have no cd's or dvd's or usb keys. Im in the hospital with a broken leg and got another month or 2 here. I got other complications too. So Im looking for a way to install debian the old fashion way. But I can't remember how. Any Advice or any thing would be greatly appreciated. I need an OS that challenges me. I'm bored, Extremely bored and sick of xp or wintendo! hehe desperately yours Tommy.