Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 19 May 1999 10:18:27 -0600 (MDT), Bruce Sass wrote: >There is no real advantage to doing it manually, unless you count >gaining some understanding of how dpkg/dselect/apt go about their >business as advantageous. C'mon, this is Linux! Pure geek factor *is* an advantage! :) - -- Steve C. Lamb | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your ICQ: 5107343 | main connection to the switchboard of souls. - ---+- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPsdk version 1.0 (C) 1997 Pretty Good Privacy, Inc iQA/AwUBN0Lmunpf7K2LbpnFEQItOQCg3bfoeSlZ/in8WSrHJb6o8HV+C74AoPST QUmCxBv69ktm7ozmyW4kAd5e =rROs -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
One can always manually update the dpkg DB...
ya know, take a text editor to /var/lib/dpkg/{available,status} and make
the appropriate entries, then create a package.list in the info
sub-dir... In fact, if you `fill in all the blanks' it will be just like
you installed a .deb; if you leave some spots blank then dpkg will be
limited with what it can do (pretty tough for dpkg -S to work if the
.list file is empty, eh).
There is no real advantage to doing it manually, unless you count
gaining some understanding of how dpkg/dselect/apt go about their
business as advantageous.
- Bruce
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On Wed, 19 May 1999, Pollywog wrote:
>
> On 18-May-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> > I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE
> >> > installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get
> >> > "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can
> >> > I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit?
> >> >
> >> > - thanks, Bill
> >>
> >> I had this problem too and got around it by installing the qt debs AND the
> >> source as well.
> >>
> >> I don't know if that is a correct way to do things, but it worked for me.
> >
> > I just created a local package that provides (in the dpkg sense)
> > whatever packages I do not want to install from deb files, for
> > whatever reason.
>
> It is my belief that I am better off installing Qt and KDE from source,
> because some newer apps won't run from the deb installations. Still, if I try
> to install a deb package for Debian, the package usually complains that it
> does not find debian packages for KDE installed and it quits. I looked into
> the equivs package, but from what I read, it is not a good solution and can
> break a system.
>
> --
> Andrew
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Bruce
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
>> "P" == Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P> On 19-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote: >> >> If you don't --force anything and think about what you place into the >> metaheaders, it will be all right. >> P> Thanks. Since you are the package author, I feel relieved and will P> try the package, noting the conditions you mentioned. As long as you don't try something really stupid with the metaheaders, it is fine. Actually I will make some meta packages for gnome using equivs as the base. For your case. You should do a controlfile with Package: kde-local-deps Provides: kde-libs or whatever you have installed into /usr/local, and install the generated package. Ciao, martin
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
On 19-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote: > > If you don't --force anything and think about what you place into the > metaheaders, it will be all right. > Thanks. Since you are the package author, I feel relieved and will try the package, noting the conditions you mentioned. -- Andrew btw, sorry about my "misfire" reply earlier. Finger slippage caused it to go out before I answered.
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
On 19-May-99 Martin Bialasinski wrote: > >>> "P" == Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > P> I looked into the equivs package, but from what I read, it is not a > P> good solution and can break a system. > > Use the one in unstable as I said in another mail. The only "problem" > there could be is that you define Provides, dependancies or other meta > information, that replace one of the core elements if you force it. > > You could make a packages that Provides and Conflicts libc6 and (maybe > with a little --force) install it. With the next boot, you won't be > able to start because of missing libc6. > > If you don't --force anything and think about what you place into the > metaheaders, it will be all right. > > Ciao, > Martin - author and maintainer of the new equivs package > > > -- > Unsubscribe? mail -s unsubscribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] < > /dev/null >
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
>> "P" == Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: P> I looked into the equivs package, but from what I read, it is not a P> good solution and can break a system. Use the one in unstable as I said in another mail. The only "problem" there could be is that you define Provides, dependancies or other meta information, that replace one of the core elements if you force it. You could make a packages that Provides and Conflicts libc6 and (maybe with a little --force) install it. With the next boot, you won't be able to start because of missing libc6. If you don't --force anything and think about what you place into the metaheaders, it will be all right. Ciao, Martin - author and maintainer of the new equivs package
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
On Wed, 19 May 1999, Pollywog wrote: > It is my belief that I am better off installing Qt and KDE from source, > because some newer apps won't run from the deb installations. Still, if I try > to install a deb package for Debian, the package usually complains that it > does not find debian packages for KDE installed and it quits. I looked into > the equivs package, but from what I read, it is not a good solution and can > break a system. Exactly. I _tried_ installing the debs. But either KDE would not work at all or certain apps would not work. I could not find one that consistently worked. I gave up and used the source tarballs instead. - Bill
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
On 18-May-99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE >> > installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get >> > "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can >> > I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit? >> > >> > - thanks, Bill >> >> I had this problem too and got around it by installing the qt debs AND the >> source as well. >> >> I don't know if that is a correct way to do things, but it worked for me. > > I just created a local package that provides (in the dpkg sense) > whatever packages I do not want to install from deb files, for > whatever reason. It is my belief that I am better off installing Qt and KDE from source, because some newer apps won't run from the deb installations. Still, if I try to install a deb package for Debian, the package usually complains that it does not find debian packages for KDE installed and it quits. I looked into the equivs package, but from what I read, it is not a good solution and can break a system. -- Andrew
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
>> "MB" == Mitch Blevins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MB> In foo.debian-user, you wrote: >> How can I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file >> I can edit? MB> Look at the "equivs" package. But please take the version available in potato, as equivs has been completely rewritten. It will work on Debian slink. Ciao, Martin
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
Pollywog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE > > installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get > > "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can > > I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit? > > > > - thanks, Bill > > I had this problem too and got around it by installing the qt debs AND the > source as well. > > I don't know if that is a correct way to do things, but it worked for me. I just created a local package that provides (in the dpkg sense) whatever packages I do not want to install from deb files, for whatever reason. I created a directory tree and file: local/DEBIAN/control where control is: Package: local Version: 1.00 Architecture: all Essential: no Provides: tex, latex, texinfo, dvips, dvipsk, xdvi, metafont Maintainer: "Jeff Lessem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description: Provides for packages that I prefer to maintain myself This is just my example. You probably want to look through /var/lib/dpkg/available to see what packages qt Provides:. Then from ../local, run "dpkg-deb -b local" and local.deb will be created. Then use "dpkg -i local.deb" to install your packages. It contains no files, it simply tells dpkg that whatever packages are listed on Provides: are installed. -- Jeff Lessem.
RE: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
On 18-May-99 William R Pentney wrote: > > I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE > installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get > "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can > I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit? > > - thanks, Bill I had this problem too and got around it by installing the qt debs AND the source as well. I don't know if that is a correct way to do things, but it worked for me. -- Andrew
Re: Can one "fake" a Debian package?
In foo.debian-user, you wrote: > > I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE > installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get > "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can > I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit? Look at the "equivs" package. -Mitch
Can one "fake" a Debian package?
I have QT 1.42 installed from the source tarball. Unfortunately, my KDE installation was in the form of Debian packages, and now I get "kde-whatever depends on qt-142" errors from dselect and apt-get. How can I convince my system that QT is installed? Is there a file I can edit? - thanks, Bill
