Re: Can you install programs without apt packages?
Colin: "There's a guide to "Using APT Offline" in /usr/share/doc/apt (once you've installed) which may be of help. Abstract This document describes how to use APT in a non-networked environment, specifically a 'sneaker-net' approach for performing upgrades. You can certainly compile things yourself if you like, but that's likely to involve shipping more data around in the long run; there are usually build-dependencies to consider." Thanks Colin, That is exactly the kind of documentation I need to dig up then. I am glad to see that I am not the only one in this scenario! Scott Greg Madden writes: "You can get all the Debian packages on 7 cd's or 1 DVD. APT works with these, (apt-cdrom add). There may be some new gotta have app that isn't available from Debian, but Debin woody is 7 cd's of packages, or a 4.5g DVD." Thanks Greg, I am fortunate enough to have all 7 discs, so maybe this will be good enough for me alone. I only have a 4 GB HD, so I could fill it up fairly quick with all of those apps! I would want to update to the most current versions of GNOME, WINE, etc, so I may have enought to play around with and learn on to keep me satisfied for a while. If only I can get ahold of a big, fat HD and a cable modem... :) Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can you install programs without apt packages?
On Tuesday 31 December 2002 10:09 am, Scott wrote: > Hi, > > I am fairly new to the Linux world and am going through all of the > documentation and installation info for Debian 3.0. > > I will have a system that is going to be offline and probably never > connected to the internet. Am I going to be able to choose source files > and tarballs, etc. to compile on this system offline, or am I going to be > screwed on updating since I will not have an internet connection on it for > a while? > > Just curious, as I don't see this in the docs or forums. I see everyone > loving apt-get and Gentoo's portage, but that is not going to work on my > current setup. In the future, yes, but I don't know how long it will be. > > Scott You can get all the Debian packages on 7 cd's or 1 DVD. APT works with these, (apt-cdrom add). There may be some new gotta have app that isn't available from Debian, but Debin woody is 7 cd's of packages, or a 4.5g DVD. I believe that some of the cd vendors who offer Debian also do testing & unstable versions. -- Greg Madden -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can you install programs without apt packages?
On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 07:09:47PM +, Scott wrote: > I am fairly new to the Linux world and am going through all of the > documentation and installation info for Debian 3.0. > > I will have a system that is going to be offline and probably never > connected to the internet. Am I going to be able to choose source files > and tarballs, etc. to compile on this system offline, or am I going to be > screwed on updating since I will not have an internet connection on it for > a while? There's a guide to "Using APT Offline" in /usr/share/doc/apt (once you've installed) which may be of help. Abstract This document describes how to use APT in a non-networked environment, specifically a 'sneaker-net' approach for performing upgrades. You can certainly compile things yourself if you like, but that's likely to involve shipping more data around in the long run; there are usually build-dependencies to consider. -- Colin Watson [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Can you install programs without apt packages?
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 19:09, Scott wrote: > Hi, > > I am fairly new to the Linux world and am going through all of the > documentation and installation info for Debian 3.0. > > I will have a system that is going to be offline and probably never > connected to the internet. Am I going to be able to choose source files and > tarballs, etc. to compile on this system offline, or am I going to be > screwed on updating since I will not have an internet connection on it for a > while? You can compile anything you like, though without a net connection you will obviously be limited to things you can get from other sources. For Debian packages, you can use apt with a local repository or a set of CDs. > Just curious, as I don't see this in the docs or forums. I see everyone > loving apt-get and Gentoo's portage, but that is not going to work on my > current setup. In the future, yes, but I don't know how long it will be. If you have a bare package file (foo*.deb) you can install it directly with dpkg, though you may have to spend time tracking down dependencies and acquiring the relevant packages. You can use alien to convert a tarball or rpm into a Debian pacakge (results NOT guaranteed!), or you can compile from source and install in /usr/local (to avoid conflicts with packages). -- Oliver Elphick[EMAIL PROTECTED] Isle of Wight, UK http://www.lfix.co.uk/oliver GPG: 1024D/3E1D0C1C: CA12 09E0 E8D5 8870 5839 932A 614D 4C34 3E1D 0C1C "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy. But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;" Matthew 5:43,44 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you install programs without apt packages?
Hi, I am fairly new to the Linux world and am going through all of the documentation and installation info for Debian 3.0. I will have a system that is going to be offline and probably never connected to the internet. Am I going to be able to choose source files and tarballs, etc. to compile on this system offline, or am I going to be screwed on updating since I will not have an internet connection on it for a while? Just curious, as I don't see this in the docs or forums. I see everyone loving apt-get and Gentoo's portage, but that is not going to work on my current setup. In the future, yes, but I don't know how long it will be. Scott -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]