Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 06:40:40PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 06:35:57PM +0200, Siard wrote:
> > Anubhav Yadav:
> > > Chris Bannister:
> > > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > > e.g.
> > > > Plug it in
> > > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > > then
> > > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > > (get some error msgs)
> > > 
> > > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb

This *seems* to fix it:
echo 2000 > /sys/module/block/parameters/events_dfl_poll_msecs

See:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/12/msg00407.html
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725978
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=713877

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Re: Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-06 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Have used airdroid before! I don't have a wifi connection always, and
airdroid 2 update messed the app for me! 

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Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-06 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 04:04:37PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> Tried gmtp, it wont seem to work. I think I need to do some tweaks on my
> mobile side, maybe need to root it and install some files. (saying this
> after reading some posts on the nexus threads on xda-developers) 

I've just had a play with AirDroid, and it works great! I highly
recommend it. 

AirDroid is available at the googleplay store.

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-05 Thread Siard
Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> Tried gmtp, it wont seem to work. I think I need to do some tweaks on
> my mobile side, maybe need to root it and install some files. (saying
> this after reading some posts on the nexus threads on xda-developers)

When I tried gmtp, it did work, but cd'ing into a directory took a long
time (some 30 to 60 seconds) and lots of error messages showed up in
the xterm where it was started from.
But the tweaks you mention are likely to improve this.

I then installed Software Data Cable in Android, so I could access the
device's files via ftp (I used gftp) without a USB cable but through
WiFi, and that worked very well and extremely fast, so I haven't looked
back at MTP.


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Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-05 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Tried gmtp, it wont seem to work. I think I need to do some tweaks on my
mobile side, maybe need to root it and install some files. (saying this
after reading some posts on the nexus threads on xda-developers) 


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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-05 Thread The_Ace
While not a direct answer to the question, you can easily move files
from/to android phone using FTP. FTP server can be on your pc or phone.
Works either way.



On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:40 PM, Anubhav Yadav  wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I am using an android phone running 4.0.4 ICS and when I connect my
> phone with USB( and select MTP as transfer protocol), it gets mounted on
> linux, but I am able to view very few folders. There are many folders in
> the phone.
>
> Well the phone does not has a memory card, it just has a 2 gb internal
> sd card.
>
> I am using debian wheezy 7.1, it has gvfs-backends installed to the
> newest version!
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Anubhav Yadav,
> Computer Engineering Final Year Student,
> Imperial College of Engineering and Research,
> Pune.
>
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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 06:35:57PM +0200, Siard wrote:
> Anubhav Yadav:
> > Chris Bannister:
> > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > e.g.
> > > Plug it in
> > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > then
> > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > (get some error msgs)
> > 
> > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> > 
> > > then
> > > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> > 
> > and this gives me special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
> 
> MTP was introduced in Android 3, for certain reasons.
> Android 2.x still works with normal USB.
> MTP was invented by Microsoft, so it only works directly in Windows.
> For both Linux and OSX, a program is needed to transfer files via MTP.
> For Debian there is gmtp, which is easiest. There's also mtp-tools,
> requiring more study.
> 
> But there are other ways to transfer files that may work better.
> You can install AirDroid in Android. It requires both PC and device to
> have a WiFi connection.
> Or you can use Software Data Cable in Android, that also works when
> the PC has a wired ethernet connection.

Thanks for this. That explains a few points of confusion (at least on my
part.)

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Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 08:38:18PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> >>As above or as before?
> 
> As before.
> 
> Yes I saw the thread!

In that case I'm stumped. Sorry I can't help you any further.

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-04 Thread Siard
Anubhav Yadav:
> Chris Bannister:
> > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > e.g.
> > Plug it in
> > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > then
> > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > (get some error msgs)
> 
> It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> 
> > then
> > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> 
> and this gives me special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist

MTP was introduced in Android 3, for certain reasons.
Android 2.x still works with normal USB.
MTP was invented by Microsoft, so it only works directly in Windows.
For both Linux and OSX, a program is needed to transfer files via MTP.
For Debian there is gmtp, which is easiest. There's also mtp-tools,
requiring more study.

But there are other ways to transfer files that may work better.
You can install AirDroid in Android. It requires both PC and device to
have a WiFi connection.
Or you can use Software Data Cable in Android, that also works when
the PC has a wired ethernet connection.


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Re: Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-04 Thread Anubhav Yadav
In that case I'm stumped. Sorry I can't help you any further.

I think, as someone mentioned above, that MTP is only used to transfer
files that contain media. So maybe thats the reason that its not
mounting. Tomorrow I will try to connect my phone to another distro and
will report if all files are visible there or not. 

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-03 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:16:18AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 10:07 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 04:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > > > e.g.
> > > > > Plug it in
> > > > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > > > then
> > > > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > > > (get some error msgs)
> > > > 
> > > > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> > > 
> > > Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> > > (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> > > You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> > > under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> > > storage to PC" will be allowed.
> > > 
> > > THEN
> > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > 
> > > You should see something similar to:
> > > [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > > [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > > [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > > [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > > [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> > > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> > 
> > Erm... What's the point of mounting the whole disk when you seem to
> > already know that it's going to fail? If you just need to get the kernel
> > to read the partition table, then try "hdparm -z /dev/sdb"
> > 
> > Teaching people to do something that you expect to result in an error
> > seems a bad idea to me.
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > then
> > > > > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> > > > 
> 
> Well, 
> The point is when I select MTP on my android phone when I connect it to
> laptop, and debian mounts android. But all folders that are there in my
> phone are not seen in the explorer. 
> 
> Whereas if I connect the android phone to windows it shows all my
> files. 
> 
> Only 10 folders are seen on debian, whereas there are many others!

This is probably intentional. MTP (Media Transfer Protocol) is designed
for transferring digital media between systems. Looking at the wikipedia
page, it seems perfectly reasonable that the android device is only
showing you paths where it believes it has media files (as indexed by
the "Media Storage" service, probably).

As to why windows sees it differently to linux, I'm not sure.


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Re: Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-03 Thread Anubhav Yadav
>>As above or as before?

As before.

Yes I saw the thread!


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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 03, 2013 at 09:34:50AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 04:23 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > > e.g.
> > > > Plug it in
> > > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > > then
> > > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > > (get some error msgs)
> > > 
> > > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> > 
> > Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> > (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> > You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> > under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> > storage to PC" will be allowed.
> > 
> > THEN
> > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > 
> > You should see something similar to:
> > [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> 
> It fails with the same error! Connected my phone in usb debugging mode. 

As above or as before?

Did you read:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00578.html

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 10:07 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 04:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > > e.g.
> > > > Plug it in
> > > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > > then
> > > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > > (get some error msgs)
> > > 
> > > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> > 
> > Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> > (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> > You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> > under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> > storage to PC" will be allowed.
> > 
> > THEN
> > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > 
> > You should see something similar to:
> > [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> 
> Erm... What's the point of mounting the whole disk when you seem to
> already know that it's going to fail? If you just need to get the kernel
> to read the partition table, then try "hdparm -z /dev/sdb"
> 
> Teaching people to do something that you expect to result in an error
> seems a bad idea to me.
> 
> > 
> > > > then
> > > > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> > > 

Well, 
The point is when I select MTP on my android phone when I connect it to
laptop, and debian mounts android. But all folders that are there in my
phone are not seen in the explorer. 

Whereas if I connect the android phone to windows it shows all my
files. 

Only 10 folders are seen on debian, whereas there are many others!
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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-02 Thread Anubhav Yadav
On Mon, 2013-09-02 at 04:23 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > 
> > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > e.g.
> > > Plug it in
> > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > then
> > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > (get some error msgs)
> > 
> > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> 
> Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> storage to PC" will be allowed.
> 
> THEN
> # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> 
> You should see something similar to:
> [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> mount: you must specify the filesystem type

It fails with the same error! Connected my phone in usb debugging mode. 
> 

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 10:07:58AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 04:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> > (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> > You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> > under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> > storage to PC" will be allowed.
> > 
> > THEN
> > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > 
> > You should see something similar to:
> > [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> > [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> > [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> > mount: you must specify the filesystem type
> 
> Erm... What's the point of mounting the whole disk when you seem to
> already know that it's going to fail? If you just need to get the kernel
> to read the partition table, then try "hdparm -z /dev/sdb"
> 
> Teaching people to do something that you expect to result in an error
> seems a bad idea to me.

Normally, you'd be correct. In this case though it is a different story,
/dev/sdb1 doesn't appear UNTILL I go through this dance.

See: 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/10/msg00578.html

for why I suggest this.


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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-02 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Sep 02, 2013 at 04:23:08AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> > 
> > > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > > e.g.
> > > Plug it in
> > > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > > then
> > > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > > (get some error msgs)
> > 
> > It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb
> 
> Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
> (That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
> You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
> under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
> storage to PC" will be allowed.
> 
> THEN
> # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> 
> You should see something similar to:
> [4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> [4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
> [4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
> mount: you must specify the filesystem type

Erm... What's the point of mounting the whole disk when you seem to
already know that it's going to fail? If you just need to get the kernel
to read the partition table, then try "hdparm -z /dev/sdb"

Teaching people to do something that you expect to result in an error
seems a bad idea to me.

> 
> > > then
> > > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> > 


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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Aug 31, 2013 at 03:39:39PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> 
> > Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> > e.g.
> > Plug it in
> > select connect to PC on phone. 
> > then
> > # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> > (get some error msgs)
> 
> It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb

Did you select "connect storage to PC" on phone like I said?
(That has to be successful before trying anything else!)
You have to enable "USB debugging" on the phone, for Gingerbread it's
under settings ---> applications ---> Development before "connect
storage to PC" will be allowed.

THEN
# mount /dev/sdb /mnt

You should see something similar to:
[4247732.683920] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[4247732.690689] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[4247732.700447] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] No Caching mode page present
[4247732.703418] sd 100:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
[4247732.827436] FAT-fs (sdb): invalid media value (0x00)
mount: you must specify the filesystem type

> > then
> > # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt
> 
> and this gives me special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist

Right, of course. Because the above failed.

You can see with the tab key:
root@tal:~# mount /dev/sd
You should see sdb1 AFTER doing "mount /dev/sdb /mnt"

Then the contents will be available under /mnt

(I'm presuming you know the basics of moving files from the command
line.)

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-08-31 Thread Anubhav Yadav

> Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
> e.g.
> Plug it in
> select connect to PC on phone. 
> then
> # mount /dev/sdb /mnt
> (get some error msgs)

It gives me this no medium found on /dev/sdb

> then
> # mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

and this gives me special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist

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Re: Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-08-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 09:40:46PM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
> Hello list, 
> 
> I am using an android phone running 4.0.4 ICS and when I connect my
> phone with USB( and select MTP as transfer protocol), it gets mounted on
> linux, but I am able to view very few folders. There are many folders in
> the phone.
> 
> Well the phone does not has a memory card, it just has a 2 gb internal
> sd card.

Can't you just treat it as a normal USB stick?
e.g.
Plug it in
select connect to PC on phone. 
then
# mount /dev/sdb /mnt
(get some error msgs)
then
# mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt

I do it this way and I can transfer files back and forth just like on a
USB stick. Of course, make sure you use the correct device sdb, sdc or
...

If any folders start with a . (dot) then maybe nautilus treats them as
hidden?

BTW, I don't use a DE. So I can help with that side of it.

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Cannot view all my android folders in nautilus after mounting android as MTP

2013-08-30 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Hello list, 

I am using an android phone running 4.0.4 ICS and when I connect my
phone with USB( and select MTP as transfer protocol), it gets mounted on
linux, but I am able to view very few folders. There are many folders in
the phone.

Well the phone does not has a memory card, it just has a 2 gb internal
sd card.

I am using debian wheezy 7.1, it has gvfs-backends installed to the
newest version! 

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

Regards, 
Anubhav Yadav,
Computer Engineering Final Year Student,
Imperial College of Engineering and Research,
Pune.


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