Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread M. Lewis


I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning 
process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I 
verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like 
to check the burned CD against that md5sum.


Thanks,
Mike
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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread M. Lewis


thveillon.debian wrote:

M. Lewis a écrit :

I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
to check the burned CD against that md5sum.

Thanks,
Mike

Hi,

md5sum /dev/cdrom or md5sum /dev/scd0 works here (Squeeze and
Lenny), whatever applies to your system.
If you have I/O error check that it's not mounted, and not accessed by
some other process (like kio* in KDE).

Tom


Great. Thanks Tom. I was totally unaware it could be done as simply as that.

Mike

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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread thveillon.debian
M. Lewis a écrit :
 
 I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
 process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
 verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
 to check the burned CD against that md5sum.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
Hi,

md5sum /dev/cdrom or md5sum /dev/scd0 works here (Squeeze and
Lenny), whatever applies to your system.
If you have I/O error check that it's not mounted, and not accessed by
some other process (like kio* in KDE).

Tom


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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-19_05:29:17, M. Lewis wrote:

 thveillon.debian wrote:
 M. Lewis a ??crit :
 I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
 process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
 verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
 to check the burned CD against that md5sum.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 Hi,

 md5sum /dev/cdrom or md5sum /dev/scd0 works here (Squeeze and
 Lenny), whatever applies to your system.
 If you have I/O error check that it's not mounted, and not accessed by
 some other process (like kio* in KDE).

 Tom

 Great. Thanks Tom. I was totally unaware it could be done as simply as that.


Several months ago, when Lenny was still 'testing', I had difficulty
with this: On my hardware, the read from /dev/cdrom had extra bytes at
the end and was a longer byte stream than the .iso image from which
the CD was burned. So, of course, compare of md5 sums between CD and
.iso failed. There is a work-around in that one can use dd to copy
from /dev/cdrom just enough blocks to match the length of the .iso
file, and then compute the md5sum of that (truncated) length matching
file. OTOH the problem may not have been hardware, and it may have
been fixed. So if at first you get results that indicate that you have
a badly burned CD, it may be the test that is bad, not the burn.

I have not verified this situation recently, so this is just a warning.
I think there are many people like me who know about this old problem,
so it would be nice for you to report back to the list as to whether or
not it is still there.

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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:33:09 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:

 I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
 process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
 verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
 to check the burned CD against that md5sum.

The best approach for checking burned CDs, which is what Red Hat used, is 
implanting a MD5 checksum to it by implantisomd5, and verify later with 
checkisomd5. 

So the CD itself and checkisomd is all you need to verify it, even after 
several years, and you've forgot where you put its original md5sum. The 
implantisomd5 and checkisomd5 are available in Debian (later) as the 
isomd5sum package.

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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-19_15:39:56, T o n g wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 04:33:09 -0500, M. Lewis wrote:
 
  I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
  process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
  verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
  to check the burned CD against that md5sum.
 
 The best approach for checking burned CDs, which is what Red Hat used, is 
 implanting a MD5 checksum to it by implantisomd5, and verify later with 
 checkisomd5. 
 
 So the CD itself and checkisomd is all you need to verify it, even after 
 several years, and you've forgot where you put its original md5sum. The 
 implantisomd5 and checkisomd5 are available in Debian (later) as the 
 isomd5sum package.

I think you are misunderstanding the situation, or perhaps, I
misunderstand what you intend to say. Computing a checksum, does not,
by itself, verify the correctness of the CD. You must have knowledge
of what the md5sum of the original .iso was, and you must get that
same md5sum value from running the program 'md5sum' on the CD. Of
course, if you can't even read the CD into the md5sum program, then it
is surely a bad CD. Can you mount the CD, and examine its contents?
If you cannot, then producing an md5sum for it is pointless. If you
can mount it, there may be, somewhere on it, a record of what its
md5sum should be. But an md5sum of a CD, alone, is useless.

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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread thveillon.debian
Paul E Condon wrote :
 On 2009-03-19_05:29:17, M. Lewis wrote:
 thveillon.debian wrote:
 M. Lewis a ??crit :
 I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the burning
 process worked correctly (there were no errors reported). Note, I
 verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them. So now I'd like
 to check the burned CD against that md5sum.

 Thanks,
 Mike
 Hi,

 md5sum /dev/cdrom or md5sum /dev/scd0 works here (Squeeze and
 Lenny), whatever applies to your system.
 If you have I/O error check that it's not mounted, and not accessed by
 some other process (like kio* in KDE).

 Tom
 Great. Thanks Tom. I was totally unaware it could be done as simply as that.

 
 Several months ago, when Lenny was still 'testing', I had difficulty
 with this: On my hardware, the read from /dev/cdrom had extra bytes at
 the end and was a longer byte stream than the .iso image from which
 the CD was burned. So, of course, compare of md5 sums between CD and
 .iso failed. There is a work-around in that one can use dd to copy
 from /dev/cdrom just enough blocks to match the length of the .iso
 file, and then compute the md5sum of that (truncated) length matching
 file. OTOH the problem may not have been hardware, and it may have
 been fixed. So if at first you get results that indicate that you have
 a badly burned CD, it may be the test that is bad, not the burn.
 
 I have not verified this situation recently, so this is just a warning.
 I think there are many people like me who know about this old problem,
 so it would be nice for you to report back to the list as to whether or
 not it is still there.
 

Following a similar thread on the French list where this problem was
also related, I did some testing with dvd's and cd's, GNU-Linux distros
and movies burnt with K3B, on Lenny almost stable and lately on
Squeeze. I didn't come across any issue, so at least here it works fine.

Tom


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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread T o n g
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:06:55 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:

 So the CD itself and checkisomd is all you need to verify it, even
 after several years, and you've forgot where you put its original
 md5sum. . .
 
 I think you are misunderstanding the situation, or perhaps, I
 misunderstand what you intend to say. Computing a checksum, does not, by
 itself, verify the correctness of the CD. . . But an
 md5sum of a CD, alone, is useless.

Maybe some more readings, if you care, can help change your thinking. 

- Do you know that on RedHat's cd boot menu, there is an entry to verify 
the integrity of CD?
- Do you know how they did it?

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Re: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-19_16:33:50, T o n g wrote:
 On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 10:06:55 -0600, Paul E Condon wrote:
 
  So the CD itself and checkisomd is all you need to verify it, even
  after several years, and you've forgot where you put its original
  md5sum. . .
  
  I think you are misunderstanding the situation, or perhaps, I
  misunderstand what you intend to say. Computing a checksum, does not, by
  itself, verify the correctness of the CD. . . But an
  md5sum of a CD, alone, is useless.
 
 Maybe some more readings, if you care, can help change your thinking. 
 
 - Do you know that on RedHat's cd boot menu, there is an entry to verify 
 the integrity of CD?
 - Do you know how they did it?

I think I will choose to believe that I misunderstood what you said.

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RE: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

2009-03-19 Thread jc
 
-Original Message-
From: M. Lewis [mailto:ca...@cajuninc.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:33 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Checking the md5sum of a burned CD

 
 I've burned a CD from a .iso image. Now I want to verify the
 burning process worked correctly (there were no errors reported).
 Note, I verified the md5sums of the .iso's before I burned them.
 So now I'd like to check the burned CD against that md5sum.
 
 Thanks,
 Mike
 -- 
 

Yo cannot use the same md5sum, because that md5sum is generated from the
.iso file and you did not burn your CD as data CD contaning an .iso file.
If so, your CD would not be bootable. But if you burned your CD as
bootable CD there is no longer an .iso file and you will have to use
md5sum.txt of your CD and check /every/ file inside your CD.



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