Re: Current Mirrors? Was deselect wont ftp

1998-07-03 Thread Ed Cogburn 
Young, Ed wrote:
 
 I'll be surfing the mirrors looking for one which has some recent dates on
 the files. Seems that the most current is June 27th or so. Can you recommend
 one?
 
 What do you mean Using dselect with the apt method on a mirror
 which supports http is quite
 fast.?
 
 I'm pretty confused about quit a bit of stuff. Was deselect upgraded in the
 autoup.sh session to now use apt? Or do I need to add it...??
 Still not sure what the apt method is. I've got alot of docs on this upgrade
 but still haven't figured that out. I see that it is the command line method
 of the new package manager, but I've got no real usage other than
 run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I believe I also have to install
 it first anyway, unless it was installed in the autoup.sh session.
 
 Guess I have the weekend to figure out some of this...
 
 Thanx again for the help.
 


Yeah its a little confusing.  apt will eventually replace dselect, but
right now it has no GUI or full-screen interface like dselect.  It does
have a command-line interface that implements the newer, better 'get'
routines.  Now there are 2 ways you can use apt.  When you install apt
(look in ftp.debian.org/debian/project/experimental for the latest apt
.deb package), apt not only installs itself as an executable (apt-get)
it also installs itself as a new access method for dselect.  When you
next run dselect, you'll see apt listed under the access methods, along
with 'cdrom', 'ftp', e.t.c.  To use this new method, you first must
setup /etc/apt/sources.list.  Here are some example entries:
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian frozen main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian slink main contrib non-free


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RE: Current Mirrors? Was deselect wont ftp

1998-07-02 Thread Young, Ed 


I'll be surfing the mirrors looking for one which has some recent dates on
the files. Seems that the most current is June 27th or so. Can you recommend
one? 

What do you mean Using dselect with the apt method on a mirror
which supports http is quite
fast.? 

I'm pretty confused about quit a bit of stuff. Was deselect upgraded in the
autoup.sh session to now use apt? Or do I need to add it...??
Still not sure what the apt method is. I've got alot of docs on this upgrade
but still haven't figured that out. I see that it is the command line method
of the new package manager, but I've got no real usage other than
run apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade. I believe I also have to install
it first anyway, unless it was installed in the autoup.sh session. 

Guess I have the weekend to figure out some of this...

Thanx again for the help. 

Ed

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Echostar Technology Corporation
Denver, Colorado
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 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Nielsen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, July 02, 1998 11:22 AM
 To:   Young, Ed
 Cc:   debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject:  Re: Deselect won't connect via ftp
 
 On Thu, 2 Jul 1998, Young, Ed wrote:
 
  
  I ran deselect to ftp.debian.org to do a dry run on the upgrade after
  running autoup.sh and could not get connected. I passed all the other
 info
  and after choosing directory /debian
  and 
  dists/frozen/main dists/frozen/non-free dists/frozen/contrib
  
  the deselect session kept telling me it couldn't connect but would I
 like to
  try to reconnect at once. I kept choosing yes but it would immediately
  return and ask me again. 
  
  I tried to ftp by hand to ftp.debian.org and had no problem at all. Of
  course, I can't upgrade this way. The user quota was low too. 
  
  It would seem that there is some problem with deselect or how it is
  configured on my system. 
  
  I've used deselect on another system to add packages via ftp and have
 had no
  problems. This problem system is based on the same version of debian
 1.3.1. 
  
  I can supply whatever info in necessary if someone has questions about
 the
  system. 
  
 
 ftp.debian.org has a 150 user limit and that is the message you get when
 it won't allow any additional connections.  You were probably lucky when
 you tried the manual ftp connection.  Since hamm went beta the load has
 been consistently high.
 
 I've had better luck with mirrors, although some of them tend to be a day
 or so behind at times.  
 
 Using dselect with the apt method on a mirror which supports http is quite
 fast.
 
 Bob
 
 
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