Re: DVD: can't burn dual layer or at 4x

2005-06-07 Thread Brian Pack
Can't find my original thread re: this problem, but this is close.

I was having all sorts of errors trying to burn 8x media @ 8x. The burn would 
be physically bad, with blank bands, scorches, etc. Below that, they were 
fine, and 16x media worked @ 16x. I thought I'd tried everything, different 
media, burners, boxes, even distros.

I noticed my BIOS would complain at boot that the IDE cable for the burner was 
only 40-wire. Since I had almost none of this trouble on the windows side 
(except 16x media @ 16x speed), I disregarded it.

But lo and behold, when I switched to an 80-wire cable, all the problems seem 
to have vanished. I'm 3 for 3 in error-free burns at intended speeds thus 
far.

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Re: DVD: can't burn dual layer or at 4x

2005-06-07 Thread Andrew Schulman

 Can't find my original thread re: this problem, but this is close.
 
 I was having all sorts of errors trying to burn 8x media @ 8x. The burn would 
 be physically bad, with blank bands, scorches, etc. Below that, they were 
 fine, and 16x media worked @ 16x. I thought I'd tried everything, different 
 media, burners, boxes, even distros.
 
 I noticed my BIOS would complain at boot that the IDE cable for the burner 
 was 
 only 40-wire. Since I had almost none of this trouble on the windows side 
 (except 16x media @ 16x speed), I disregarded it.
 
 But lo and behold, when I switched to an 80-wire cable, all the problems seem 
 to have vanished. I'm 3 for 3 in error-free burns at intended speeds thus 
 far.

OK, good.  IIRC the post you're replying to was mine, and later I
answered that I had solved the problem by upgrading to the latest
dvd+rw-tools and k3b.


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Re: DVD: can't burn dual layer or at 4x

2004-12-11 Thread Rogério Brito
On Dec 11 2004, Andrew Schulman wrote:
 $ cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/dvd -prcap

Please, bear in mind that I don't have a DVD burner.

Anyway, if I am not mistaken remembering what Jens Axboe said, you should
use dev=/dev/dvd instead of dev=ATAPI:/dev/dvd to access your drive.
This is the way that I've been using to burn CDs and is working fine with
my (very old) CD burner with my custom built kernel (2.6.10-rc3).


Hope this helps, Rogério.

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Re: DVD: can't burn dual layer or at 4x

2004-12-10 Thread Michael Loftis

--On Saturday, December 11, 2004 01:46 -0500 Andrew Schulman 
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...
(1) Is the burn speed restriction a limitation of the current ATA
implementation (libata?)?  Related to the no DMA warning?
Yes.  In PIO mode you'll be lucky to push more than 1800kbyte/sec, and your 
system response will suck.

(2) Are people getting better than 4x burn speeds?  With what burner?  I'd
love to hear from someone with an ND-3500AG.
Probably with ide-scsi, which is what everyone's been told to use for a 
long time now with cdrecord.

3 and 4 i have to leave to others.  dont' have a DVD burner in a linux box 
:)

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DVD: can't burn dual layer or at 4x

2004-12-10 Thread Andrew Schulman
I have an NEC ND-3500AG DVD burner.  The mfr specs say it can burn single
layer DVDs (-R, +R) at 16x, and dual layer DVDs at 4x.  But so far I can't
get any burn speed above 4x, and I can't burn dual layer at all.

I mainly use K3b for burning, but have fooled around a bit with cdrecord and
growisofs.  None of these have anything to say about DL DVDs, and growisofs
complains if I try to burn an 8 GB ISO.  It has an overburn option but
this doesn't seem well suited to dual layer. (Though I admit I haven't
tried, since dual layer media cost about $5-$7 each.)

As for the slow single layer burning speed, cdrecord provides some
information:

$ cdrecord dev=ATAPI:/dev/dvd -prcap
snip
Warning: Using ATA Packet interface.
Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained.
Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow.
Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
Device type: Removable CD-ROM
Version: 0
Response Format: 2
Capabilities   :
Vendor_info: '_NEC'
Identifikation : 'DVD_RW ND-3500AG'
Revision   : '2.16'
Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.

Drive capabilities, per MMC-3 page 2A:
snip
  Maximum read  speed:  8467 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Current read  speed:  5645 kB/s (CD  32x, DVD  4x)
  Maximum write speed:  8467 kB/s (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Current write speed:  1411 kB/s (CD   8x, DVD  1x)
  Rotational control selected: CLV/PCAV
  Buffer size in KB: 2048
  Copy management revision supported: 1
  Number of supported write speeds: 6
  Write speed # 0:  8467 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  48x, DVD  6x)
  Write speed # 1:  7056 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  40x, DVD  5x)
  Write speed # 2:  5645 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  32x, DVD  4x)
  Write speed # 3:  4234 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  24x, DVD  3x)
  Write speed # 4:  2822 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD  16x, DVD  2x)
  Write speed # 5:  1411 kB/s CLV/PCAV (CD   8x, DVD  1x)

So clearly cdrecord, at least, isn't seeing all of the capability that my
drive is supposed to have.  But even it thinks I can burn at 6x, while in
fact I never get more than 4x, even with 8x-capable media.

Questions:

(1) Is the burn speed restriction a limitation of the current ATA
implementation (libata?)?  Related to the no DMA warning?

(2) Are people getting better than 4x burn speeds?  With what burner?  I'd
love to hear from someone with an ND-3500AG.

(3) Has anyone out there successfully burned dual layer DVDs?  How?  With
what burner?

(4) How can I get more information about the medium that's loaded in my
drive?  E.g. max burn speed, whether it's dual layer.

BTW, I'm using all DVD+R; haven't tried -R yet.  Thanks in advance for any
light you can shed on this.

Andrew.



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