Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
From fritz [EMAIL PROTECTED], on Fri, Nov 01, 2002 at 05:48:16AM +0100: using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, which works great, we have to use one business-application which is only available as Windows-programm. Trying wine and Cross-Over , both programms are unable to run our application, we are now testing Win4Lin 4.0. Unfortunately netraverse does not support Debian distributions. Therefor I am unable to install Win4Lin 4.0. -- FWIW - I've been running Win4Lin on Debian (Unstable) for close to a year with very few problems. I build my own kernels. It hasn't been a huge deal to apply the Win4Lin patches to my kernel. You typically have to wait 1-2 months before they release the patches for a new kernel version. Performance is good. Display is a little flickery. Almost all my applications work. The main downside is that you're running a Win9x version, which suck even without Win4Lin and Linux mixed in. VMWare allows you to run more solid Windows versions, at a huge performance or hardware upgrade cost. Netraverse's support has also been very good. I heartily recommend Win4Lin if you're willing to rough it with kernel building. Cheers, Steve \_O \_O \_O ~~~ Steve Cooper Redmond, WA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
My understanding was that "unsupported" distros could still use wn4lin but had to patch and compile the kernel themselves. Might be worth slipping a case of beer to someone in your local LUG if you're uncomfortable doing that. John At 05:48 AM 11/1/02 +0100, fritz wrote: Hello world, using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, which works great, we have to use one business-application which is only available as Windows-programm. Trying wine and Cross-Over , both programms are unable to run our application, we are now testing Win4Lin 4.0. Unfortunately "netraverse" does not support Debian distributions. Therefor I am unable to install Win4Lin 4.0. Can anyone help us. With best regards, Fritz Ilg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
fritz said: Hello world, using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, which works great, we have to use one business-application which is only available as Windows-programm. Trying wine and Cross-Over , both programms are unable to run our application, we are now testing Win4Lin 4.0. Unfortunately netraverse does not support Debian distributions. Therefor I am unable to install Win4Lin 4.0. you can try VMWare too. it works wonderfully under debian 2.1, 2.2 and 3.0. I don't think it is officially supported but I have never had a single issue with it. Vmware also gives many other nice benefits such as being able to undo the virtual machine, or rollback the virtual machine(sort of like snapshotting). and its the most stable app I've ever used.. i have never tried win4lin but have been using vmware since it first came out a bit over 2 years ago? maybe almost 3 now .. nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
On Thu, Oct 31, 2002 at 08:56:58PM -0800, nate wrote: fritz said: Hello world, using Debian GNU/Linux 3.0, which works great, we have to use one business-application which is only available as Windows-programm. Trying wine and Cross-Over , both programms are unable to run our application, we are now testing Win4Lin 4.0. Unfortunately netraverse does not support Debian distributions. Therefor I am unable to install Win4Lin 4.0. you can try VMWare too. it works wonderfully under debian 2.1, 2.2 and 3.0. I don't think it is officially supported but I have never had a single issue with it. Vmware also gives many other nice benefits such as being able to undo the virtual machine, or rollback the virtual machine(sort of like snapshotting). and its the most stable app I've ever used.. i have never tried win4lin but have been using vmware since it first came out a bit over 2 years ago? maybe almost 3 now .. I've used both. VMware ran pathetically slow on a K6-350 with 128 MB, while Win4Lin was at least as fast as running it natively. However, not all apps run with Win4Lin and I didn't find anything I couldn't use with VMware. I'm sure with a faster machine (and a lot of memory, which is dirt-cheap right now) VMware would be satisfactory. Netraverse doesn't officially support Debian, but has some unofficial .deb files on their web site (you need to register to access them). You will also need to patch the kernel source and recompile. Bob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
Bob Nielsen said: I've used both. VMware ran pathetically slow on a K6-350 with 128 MB, while Win4Lin was at least as fast as running it natively. However, not all apps run with Win4Lin and I didn't find anything I couldn't use with VMware. I'm sure with a faster machine (and a lot of memory, which is dirt-cheap right now) VMware would be satisfactory. Netraverse doesn't officially support Debian, but has some unofficial .deb files on their web site (you need to register to access them). You will also need to patch the kernel source and recompile. yeah, I don't reccomend VMWare for any serious use without 512MB of ram. And that is running with 1 virtual machine with 96MB of ram allocated to it. 2 virtual machines is possible but things slow down somewhat. 256MB of system ram is barely usable in my opinion with a virtual machine that has 96MB of ram allocated to it(for me anything under 96MB is unusable) it is quite entertaining to see 4 virtual machines running at the same time on my afterstep desktop though! 5 OSs on 1 cpu!(1gb ram) nate -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian GNU/LInux 3.0 - Win4Lin 4.0
nate wrote: Bob Nielsen said: I've used both. VMware ran pathetically slow on a K6-350 with 128 MB, while Win4Lin was at least as fast as running it natively. However, not all apps run with Win4Lin and I didn't find anything I couldn't use with VMware. I'm sure with a faster machine (and a lot of memory, which is dirt-cheap right now) VMware would be satisfactory. Netraverse doesn't officially support Debian, but has some unofficial .deb files on their web site (you need to register to access them). You will also need to patch the kernel source and recompile. yeah, I don't reccomend VMWare for any serious use without 512MB of ram. And that is running with 1 virtual machine with 96MB of ram allocated to it. 2 virtual machines is possible but things slow down somewhat. 256MB of system ram is barely usable in my opinion with a virtual machine that has 96MB of ram allocated to it(for me anything under 96MB is unusable) it is quite entertaining to see 4 virtual machines running at the same time on my afterstep desktop though! 5 OSs on 1 cpu!(1gb ram) nate We found that as well as RAM, a dual proc SMP box helped a great deal with VMWare. John P Foster Senior Research Scientist Golden Orb Technologies LTD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
