Re: [OT] Just curious... Debian Logo?

2022-09-08 Thread Camaleón
El 2022-09-08 a las 13:57 -0400, Ali Moreno escribió:

> ¿No es esta una vulgar copia del logo de Debian?
> 
> WTF???
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/NutritionSchool/

Hombre... no sé, es un símbolo muy genérico:

https://www.google.com/search?q=swirl%20logo=isch=en=itp:clipart=X=0CAIQpwVqFwoTCLCZi4vthfoCFQAdABAC=1265=1011

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[OT] Just curious... Debian Logo?

2022-09-08 Thread Ali Moreno
¿No es esta una vulgar copia del logo de Debian?

WTF???

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Re: Debian logo Heineken spoof

2013-03-29 Thread Geert Stappers
Op 2013-03-29 om 17:10 schreef Wouter Verhelst:
 On 29-03-13 12:45, Geert Stappers wrote:
  Hoi,
  
  Op een FOSDEM een paar editie geleden zag ik een Debian T-shirt
  wat een Heineken spoof was. De drager vertelde dat het
  uit Brasilie\e kwam.
 
 Ik *denk* dat dat die van de Debian-UK crowd zijn. Ik weet niet of ze er
 nog hebben, maar je kan het ze altijd vragen...
 
 Steve McIntyre zou daar de details van moeten weten.
 

Steve zijn website, http://www.einval.com/~steve/DebianT/ heeft
wel de Grolsch, geen Heineken.


Met behulp van Google Brazil vond ik nog
 http://quasecult.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/wp_000207.jpg?w=600h=800

De Debian Heineken spoof heb ik nog niet gevonden.



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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-20 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2006-12-02 18:56:53, schrieb j Mak:
 Hi,
 
 I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background.
 Could anyone point me to a link where I can download one?

On the Debian Website you will find the Debian Swirl as XCF file
and if you open it in The Gimp you can switch off the Background.

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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:56:53 -0800 (PST)
j Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background.
 Could anyone point me to a link where I can download one?

Well, one could take one of the logos from www.debian.org/logos/ and use
Gimp to make the background transparent.

(Create new file with transparent background, copy the red curl into
here using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool, Image  Mode  Indexed
and save as .gif)

Here's a 1028x1270 logo with transparent background I made myself this
way, taking the 64k 'Gimp' file from www.debian.org/logos/ :
http://home.kpnplanet.nl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/debianlogo.gif

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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread j Mak

Thanks for the info.

Regards,
Jmak


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From: Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 7:24:03 AM
Subject: Re: Debian Logo

On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 18:56:53 -0800 (PST)
j Mak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background.
 Could anyone point me to a link where I can download one?

Well, one could take one of the logos from www.debian.org/logos/ and use
Gimp to make the background transparent.

(Create new file with transparent background, copy the red curl into
here using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool, Image  Mode  Indexed
and save as .gif)

Here's a 1028x1270 logo with transparent background I made myself this
way, taking the 64k 'Gimp' file from www.debian.org/logos/ :
http://home.kpnplanet.nl/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/debianlogo.gif

S.H.


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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread Nicolas Pillot

2006/12/3, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

(Create new file with transparent background, copy the red curl into
here using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool, Image  Mode  Indexed
and save as .gif)


You'd better to go into the Layer / Transparency menu and choose the
color to alpha option. It will usualy automatically make the transparency
look fine AND handle the blurry border selection smoothly (in my opinion).

And starting from the large gimp file source of course !


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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Sat, 2006-12-02 at 18:56 -0800, j Mak wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background. Could 
 anyone point me to a link where I can download one?

There are SVG versions of the logo available.
http://gnuart.onshore.com/debian_logos_svg.html

Possibly easier to deal with. You can import them into GIMP, or use a
vector editor such as Inkscape to edit them.

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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread Sjoerd Hiemstra
Today at 19:08 Nicolas Pillot wrote:
 2006/12/3, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  (Create new file with transparent background, copy the red curl into
  here using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool, Image  Mode 
  Indexed and save as .gif)
 
 You'd better to go into the Layer / Transparency menu and choose
 the color to alpha option. It will usualy automatically make the
 transparency look fine AND handle the blurry border selection
 smoothly (in my opinion).
 
 And starting from the large gimp file source of course !

Learnt something new. Thanks.
And yes, the border selection appears to be anti-aliased, which is not
the case when using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool.

Sjoerd


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Re: Debian Logo

2006-12-03 Thread j Mak




- Original Message 
From: Nicolas Pillot [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Sent: Sunday, December 3, 2006 1:08:16 PM
Subject: Re: Debian Logo

2006/12/3, Sjoerd Hiemstra [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 (Create new file with transparent background, copy the red curl into
 here using the 'Select contiguous regions' tool, Image  Mode  Indexed
 and save as .gif)

You'd better to go into the Layer / Transparency menu and choose the
color to alpha option. It will usualy automatically make the transparency
look fine AND handle the blurry border selection smoothly (in my opinion).

And starting from the large gimp file source of course !

Thanks for the info. I was not aware of this option.
it works great.


Jmak
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Debian Logo

2006-12-02 Thread j Mak
Hi,

I am not able to find a debian logo with a transparent background. Could anyone 
point me to a link where I can download one?

Thanks a lot,
Jmak
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Use of Debian Logo

2006-08-20 Thread Cary Pembleton
Nice Jacob,
But I still like my creation better. :o) 


Cary Pembleton

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To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Cc: Pranesh Medilall
Subject: Re: Use of Debian Logo

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 My name is Pranesh Medilall currently study towards a Bachelors degree 
 in Netcentric Computing at Monash University,Melbourne Victoria. I 
 have been assigned a websystems assignment where I have to develop a 
 webpage. Being a fanatical linux guy I here by ask for permission to 
 use the Debian Linux logo on my page for my assignment.

I think you will find all of your questions are answered at the following
url.

http://www.debian.org/logos/

HTH  HAND,
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Re: Use of Debian Logo

2006-08-19 Thread Pranesh Medilall
To Whom it may concernMy name is Pranesh Medilall
currently study towards a Bachelors degree in Netcentric Computing at
Monash University,Melbourne Victoria. I have been assigned a websystems
assignment where I have to develop a webpage. Being a fanatical linux
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Re: Use of Debian Logo

2006-08-19 Thread Jacob S
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On Sun, 20 Aug 2006 01:07:02 +1000
Pranesh Medilall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 To Whom it may concern
 
 My name is Pranesh Medilall currently study towards a Bachelors
 degree in Netcentric Computing at Monash University,Melbourne
 Victoria. I have been assigned a websystems assignment where I have
 to develop a webpage. Being a fanatical linux guy I here by ask for
 permission to use the Debian Linux logo on my page for my assignment.

I think you will find all of your questions are answered at the
following url.

http://www.debian.org/logos/

HTH  HAND,
Jacob
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Re: Debian Logo

2005-10-16 Thread Eduardo Bellido Bellido
El sáb, 15-10-2005 a las 21:42 -0300, Raúl Fuenzalida escribió:
 Sabe alguien dónde puedo encontrar el logotipo de Debian en formato 
 vector? quiero decir, por ejemplo, en formato Adobe Illustrator(*.ai), o 
 PDF, etc.

Aquí lo tienes, pero no recuerdo de donde lo saqué...


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Debian Logo

2005-10-15 Thread Raúl Fuenzalida
Sabe alguien dónde puedo encontrar el logotipo de Debian en formato 
vector? quiero decir, por ejemplo, en formato Adobe Illustrator(*.ai), o 
PDF, etc.



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Re: Debian Logo

2005-10-15 Thread Rober Morales



Raúl Fuenzalida escribió:

Sabe alguien dónde puedo encontrar el logotipo de Debian en formato 
vector? quiero decir, por ejemplo, en formato Adobe Illustrator(*.ai), 
o PDF, etc.



en www.debian.org se puede encontrar en xcf, creo

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Re: Debian Logo

2005-10-15 Thread Levi Sandoval
On 10/15/05, Raúl Fuenzalida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sabe alguien dónde puedo encontrar el logotipo de Debian en formato
 vector? quiero decir, por ejemplo, en formato Adobe Illustrator(*.ai), o
 PDF, etc.

pues aqui http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/ hay covers para los
CD's... esto no creo que te interese... pero hay un SVG que puedes
editar en Inkscape y un XCF que puedes editar en GIMP aaah y un
PostScript... espero te sirva

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Re: Debian Logo

2005-10-15 Thread Levi Sandoval
On 10/15/05, Levi Sandoval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 pues aqui http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/ hay covers para los
 CD's... esto no creo que te interese... pero hay un SVG que puedes
 editar en Inkscape y un XCF que puedes editar en GIMP aaah y un
 PostScript... espero te sirva

se me olvidaba, tambien en este link http://www.debian.org/logos/


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Re: Debian Logo / Wallpaper auf Installationsmedium

2005-08-22 Thread Klaus Staerk

Hallo Frank,

On Friday 19 August 2005 15:17, Frank Dietrich wrote:
 Klaus Staerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  auf dem Installationsmedium (DVD) gibt es beim ersten Prompt zur
  Auswahl der Installationsparameter ein Debien Logo, das wir folgt
  aussieht:

[...]
 Das Logo liegt im Verzeichnis /isolinux/splash.rle. Es liegt aber in
 einem speziellen Format vor und muß vorher noch umgewandelt werden.
[...]


Vielen Dank fuer die ausfuehrliche Beschreibung - genau das habe ich 
gesucht :-)

Schoenen Gruss,

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Re: Debian Logo / Wallpaper auf Installationsmedium

2005-08-20 Thread Frank Dietrich
Hallo Michelle,

Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Das Logo liegt im Verzeichnis /isolinux/splash.rle. Es liegt aber
  in
 
 Bist Du sicher ?
 Bei mir war das bei lilo, bzw., lilo-doc dabei als BMP.
 
 Nennen sich denian.bmp, sarge.bmp und sid.bmp.

Ja. Ich bin mir sicher. ;-)
Der OP wollte das Bild vom Installer. Und das ist nicht in einem der
lilo Pakete. Es sei denn auf den einzelnen Installer-CDs wurden
unterschiedliche Bilder verwendet. Was ich aber eher nicht vermuten
würde.

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Debian Logo / Wallpaper auf Installationsmedium

2005-08-19 Thread Klaus Staerk

Hallo Debian-Freunde,

auf dem Installationsmedium (DVD) gibt es beim ersten Prompt zur Auswahl der 
Installationsparameter ein Debien Logo, das wir folgt aussieht:

schwarzer Hintergrund, grosser roter Debian-Swirl

Ich wuerde dieses Logo gerne als Hintergrund fuer KDM einsetzen, finde die 
dazugehoerige Grafikdatei (PNG, JPG, ...) leider nicht auf dem 
Installationsmedium.

Kann hier jemand weiterhelfen?

Besten Dank und schoenen Gruss,

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Re: Debian Logo / Wallpaper auf Installationsmedium

2005-08-19 Thread Frank Dietrich
Hallo Klaus,

Klaus Staerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 auf dem Installationsmedium (DVD) gibt es beim ersten Prompt zur
 Auswahl der Installationsparameter ein Debien Logo, das wir folgt
 aussieht:
 
 schwarzer Hintergrund, grosser roter Debian-Swirl
 
 Ich wuerde dieses Logo gerne als Hintergrund fuer KDM einsetzen,
 finde die dazugehoerige Grafikdatei (PNG, JPG, ...) leider nicht
 auf dem Installationsmedium.

Das Logo liegt im Verzeichnis /isolinux/splash.rle. Es liegt aber in
einem speziellen Format vor und muß vorher noch umgewandelt werden.

  lss16toppm  splash.rel  splash.ppm

Ob KDM das direkt als PPM schon verarbeiten kann weiß ich nicht.
Jedenfalls lässt es sich von PPM zu einem unterstützten Format
weiterverarbeiten.
z.B. so:

  convert splash.ppm splash.png

lss16toppm - steckt im Packet syslinux
convert - steckt im Packet imagemagick

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Re: Debian Logo / Wallpaper auf Installationsmedium

2005-08-19 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2005-08-19 15:17:42, schrieb Frank Dietrich:
 Hallo Klaus,

 Das Logo liegt im Verzeichnis /isolinux/splash.rle. Es liegt aber in

Bist Du sicher ?
Bei mir war das bei lilo, bzw., lilo-doc dabei als BMP.

Nennen sich denian.bmp, sarge.bmp und sid.bmp.

 Frank

Greetings
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Re: debian logo

2004-12-24 Thread Michael
 On Thursday 23 December 2004 6:35 pm, Greg Madden wrote:
 On Thursday 23 December 2004 03:25 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
  In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
  underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus.
  With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
  our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
  pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
  saying 'I told you so'.

 Easy on the egg-nog :)

 Actually, Ron Johnson was quoting a Fox News broadcast from December 24,
 2999.  Walter Cronkite's reanimated head in a jar of soylent brine was
 sitting on a newsdesk speaking into what appeared to be a 1950's era
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 The newscast itself aired in Futurama episode 2ACV04, X-mas Story,
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Re: debian logo

2004-12-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 09:35 -0700, Michael wrote:
  On Thursday 23 December 2004 6:35 pm, Greg Madden wrote:
  On Thursday 23 December 2004 03:25 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
   In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
   underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus.
   With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
   our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
   pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
   saying 'I told you so'.
 
  Easy on the egg-nog :)
 
  Actually, Ron Johnson was quoting a Fox News broadcast from December 24,
  2999.  Walter Cronkite's reanimated head in a jar of soylent brine was
  sitting on a newsdesk speaking into what appeared to be a 1950's era
  microphone in front of him.
 
  The newscast itself aired in Futurama episode 2ACV04, X-mas Story,
  December 19, 1999.
[snip]
 
 Easy on the Television :)

Futurama is a truly great/funny show.

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 09:35 -0700, Michael wrote:
  On Thursday 23 December 2004 6:35 pm, Greg Madden wrote:
  On Thursday 23 December 2004 03:25 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
   In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
   underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus.
   With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
   our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
   pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
   saying 'I told you so'.
 
  Easy on the egg-nog :)
 
  Actually, Ron Johnson was quoting a Fox News broadcast from December 24,
  2999.  Walter Cronkite's reanimated head in a jar of soylent brine was
  sitting on a newsdesk speaking into what appeared to be a 1950's era
  microphone in front of him.
 
  The newscast itself aired in Futurama episode 2ACV04, X-mas Story,
  December 19, 1999.
[snip]
 Easy on the Television :)

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debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Olivier Régnier (yahoo)
Hello,
I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
for debian logo ?

Can you help me please ?
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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 22:54 +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
 for debian logo ?
 
 Can you help me please ?

We can't: it's proprietary...

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 22:54 +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
  Hello,
  
  I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
  for debian logo ?
  
  Can you help me please ?
 
 We can't: it's proprietary...

No it's not. You just don't know what it is. :P

Of course, if it were, wouldn't that make the logo itself non-free?



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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 17:38 -0500, Brian Pack wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 22:54 +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
   for debian logo ?
   
   Can you help me please ?
  
  We can't: it's proprietary...
 
 No it's not. You just don't know what it is. :P

Yes I do.  And I can pee farther than you can, too.

 Of course, if it were, wouldn't that make the logo itself non-free?

Yup.  I told them that using MS TT fonts was a bad idea, but they
wouldn't listen. :(

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread William Ballard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 05:38:36PM -0500, Brian Pack wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 22:54 +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
   Hello,
   
   I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
   for debian logo ?
   
   Can you help me please ?
  
  We can't: it's proprietary...
 
 No it's not. You just don't know what it is. :P
 
 Of course, if it were, wouldn't that make the logo itself non-free?

Who says it's even a font?  Maybe it's hand-drawn.


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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:44 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 17:38 -0500, Brian Pack wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 16:20 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
   On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 22:54 +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
Hello,

I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
for debian logo ?

Can you help me please ?
   
   We can't: it's proprietary...
  
  No it's not. You just don't know what it is. :P
 
 Yes I do.  And I can pee farther than you can, too.

I'll go be quiet now... :)

  Of course, if it were, wouldn't that make the logo itself non-free?
 
 Yup.  I told them that using MS TT fonts was a bad idea, but they
 wouldn't listen. :(

Then it's not the font I thought it was, which predated MS by nearly 50
years.



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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Florian Ernst
Hello!

On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
 I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
 for debian logo ?
 
 Can you help me please ?

http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/logos/README?cvsroot=webwmlrev=HEAD

HTH,
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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 00:22 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
 Hello!
 
 On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
  I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
  for debian logo ?
  
  Can you help me please ?
 
 http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/logos/README?cvsroot=webwmlrev=HEAD

Well, I *thought* I was joking when I called the font proprietary!

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Brian Pack
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 17:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 00:22 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
  Hello!
  
  On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
   I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
   for debian logo ?
   
   Can you help me please ?
  
  http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/logos/README?cvsroot=webwmlrev=HEAD
 
 Well, I *thought* I was joking when I called the font proprietary!

I enjoyed it. :)

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and all that nice stuff.



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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Ron Johnson
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 18:45 -0500, Brian Pack wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 17:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
  On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 00:22 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
   Hello!
   
   On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Olivier Régnier (yahoo) wrote:
I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the font used 
for debian logo ?

Can you help me please ?
   
   http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/logos/README?cvsroot=webwmlrev=HEAD
  
  Well, I *thought* I was joking when I called the font proprietary!
 
 I enjoyed it. :)
 
 Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and all that nice stuff.

In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus. 
With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
saying 'I told you so'.

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread John Hasler
Brian Pack writes:
 Then it's not the font I thought it was, which predated MS by nearly 50
 years.

If you know of a free typeface that looks enough like the one in the logo,
why not use it?
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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 23 December 2004 4:13 pm, John Hasler wrote:
 Brian Pack writes:
  Then it's not the font I thought it was, which predated MS by nearly 
  50 years.
 
 If you know of a free typeface that looks enough like the one in the 
 logo, why not use it?

Better question:  If anyone knows of a free typeface that looks enough 
like the one in the logo, why isn't Debian using that font in the logo 
instead?

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Greg Madden
On Thursday 23 December 2004 03:25 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
 On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 18:45 -0500, Brian Pack wrote:
  On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 17:37 -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
   On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 00:22 +0100, Florian Ernst wrote:
Hello!
   
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 10:54:09PM +0100, Olivier Rgnier 
(yahoo) wrote:
 I'm trying to make a logo and i'm searching the name of the
 font used for debian logo ?

 Can you help me please ?
   
http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/english/logos/README?cvsroot=webw
   mlrev=HEAD
  
   Well, I *thought* I was joking when I called the font
   proprietary!
 
  I enjoyed it. :)
 
  Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and all that nice stuff.

 In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
 underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus.
 With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
 our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
 pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
 saying 'I told you so'.

Easy on the egg-nog :)

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:
 On Thursday 23 December 2004 4:13 pm, John Hasler wrote:
  Brian Pack writes:
   Then it's not the font I thought it was, which predated MS by nearly 
   50 years.
  
  If you know of a free typeface that looks enough like the one in the 
  logo, why not use it?
 
 Better question:  If anyone knows of a free typeface that looks enough 
 like the one in the logo, why isn't Debian using that font in the logo 
 instead?

Because the designer didn't.

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Paul Johnson
On Thursday 23 December 2004 6:35 pm, Greg Madden wrote:
 On Thursday 23 December 2004 03:25 pm, Ron Johnson wrote:
  In all the tinsel and terror of the holiday season, we too often
  underestimate that murderous brute better known as Santa Claus.
  With images of last year's gingerbread massacre freshly baked into
  our memories, I remind you to bolt your doors, say goodbye to your
  pets, and lock your children in the closet. This is Walter Cronkite
  saying 'I told you so'.
 
 Easy on the egg-nog :)

Actually, Ron Johnson was quoting a Fox News broadcast from December 24, 
2999.  Walter Cronkite's reanimated head in a jar of soylent brine was 
sitting on a newsdesk speaking into what appeared to be a 1950's era 
microphone in front of him.

The newscast itself aired in Futurama episode 2ACV04, X-mas Story, 
December 19, 1999.

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Re: debian logo

2004-12-23 Thread Nate Bargmann
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004 Dec 23 20:51 -0600]:
 On Thu, 23 Dec 2004, Paul Johnson wrote:

  Better question:  If anyone knows of a free typeface that looks enough 
  like the one in the logo, why isn't Debian using that font in the logo 
  instead?
 
 Because the designer didn't.

Uh oh.

Here we go!  :-)

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-24 Thread David Clymer
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 23:24, Rob Weir wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:00:06AM -0500, David Clymer said
  This indicates that my saying a work is licensed under the GPL, any user
  thereof must abide by the GPL when using the work in ways addressed by
  this license. One is explicitly denied permission to use the work in
  ways which violate this license. Permission to use the work in
  accordance with the license is implicit.
 
 NOOO.
 
 The GPL explicitly places NO restrictions on the use of software, only
 distribution.

Perhaps I was unclear, but I think you misconstrued my statement. One
must adhere to the GPL with respect to those actions (I said uses
which are addressed by the GPL (namely copying, modification,
distribution). Perhaps uses was not a good word choice. Restrictions
on running a GPLed program are explicitly absent from the license.

from the GPL:
-
Activities other than copying, distribution and modification are not
covered by this License; they are outside its scope. The act of running
the Program is not restricted, and the output from the Program is
covered only if its contents constitute a work based on the Program
(independent of having been made by running the Program). Whether that
is true depends on what the Program does.
-

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 22 February 2004 17:53, John Hasler wrote:
 Richard Lyons wrote:
  I would recommend against nitpicking with the   missing from the -- 
  above your sig.
  ...
  Ok, I withdraw that comment - they are apparently being stripped by the
  remailer at d-u.

 I see no evidence of that.
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Well, sorry, my mistake.  Turns out on closer inspection that Kmail is taking 
only the last occurrence of --  to define the footer, and the footer added 
by d-u includes one occurrence so Kmail ignores the first one. Additionally, 
Kmail is stripping the trailing space.  

So everybody else is innocent and I have egg on my face again.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread John Hasler
Tom Vier writes:
 i have never heard of actual sales being a requirement of trademark law.

The application form requests the date of first use in interstate commerce.

 that would be a startup's trademarks would be invalid until they made
 their first sale.

It's not difficult to arrange use in interstate commerce.  I've done it.

 it also would mean charities (mostly) could not have trademarks.

You're defining commerce too narrowly.
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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread David Clymer
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 01:30, Richard Hoskins wrote:
 David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  So, if software or a logo is taken and used without permission (only
  granted if the license is adhered to) it is effectivly stolen.
 
 What part of what license has been violated in this case?
 
 There are no provisos for asking permission or giving attribution in
 the GPL, for example.
 

from the GPL: 
--
0. This License applies to any program or other work which contains a
notice placed by the copyright holder saying it may be distributed under
the terms of this General Public License. The Program, below, refers
to any such program or work, and a work based on the Program means
either the Program or any derivative work under copyright law: that is
to say, a work containing the Program or a portion of it, either
verbatim or with modifications and/or translated into another language.
(Hereinafter, translation is included without limitation in the term
modification.) Each licensee is addressed as you.

...

5. You are not required to accept this License, since you have not
signed it. However, nothing else grants you permission to modify or
distribute the Program or its derivative works. These actions are
prohibited by law if you do not accept this License. Therefore, by
modifying or distributing the Program (or any work based on the
Program), you indicate your acceptance of this License to do so, and all
its terms and conditions for copying, distributing or modifying the
Program or works based on it.
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This indicates that my saying a work is licensed under the GPL, any user
thereof must abide by the GPL when using the work in ways addressed by
this license. One is explicitly denied permission to use the work in
ways which violate this license. Permission to use the work in
accordance with the license is implicit.

Copyright is roughly the right to make a copy. If you are given
permission to make a copy of a work by the copyright holder, you may do
so. Most works are distributed too widely to go around granting
permission to everyone who wants a copy, so licenses are written which
give one a way to permit people to copy and use a work without the
copyright holder having to grant permission directly.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread David P James
On February 22, 2004 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
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 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Patrik Lindahl wrote:
  I happened to notice that the logo of elektrostore.se is almost the
  same as the Debian logo... It looks like they have changed the
  color and rotated it slightly.
  The URL is: http://www.elektrostore.se/

 Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do
 you steal what is free?

 http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free


Except that doesn't apply since the logo is not software. As I pointed 
out earlier, the Debian logos are dealt with somewhat differently. The 
swirl can be used by anyone to refer to the Debian project but that 
would seem to exclude commercial use not related to Debian. The swirl 
above a magic lamp can only be used for Debian-endorsed uses.

http://www.debian.org/logos/

Furthermore, electrostore has even trademarked the swirl plus 
electrostore.se in their own logo. I suspect they didn't do this 
themselves but rather hired some graphics art team to come up with a 
logo and someone there lazily appropriated the Debian swirl, rotated it 
and recoloured it to the shade used by electrostore.se.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:08:49AM -0500, David P James wrote:
 On February 22, 2004 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
  Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do
  you steal what is free?
 
  http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free
 
 Except that doesn't apply since the logo is not software.

The theory that the DFSG doesn't cover non-software is hotly contested
on debian-legal, and the consensus is that the DFSG should actually
cover everything in Debian (we do ship the logo in some packages, e.g.
as a background image).

There's been discussion about making the licence of the Open Use Logo
more free, anyway, since it seems clear that it isn't at the moment. It
kind of sucks that we're doing something we wouldn't accept from
upstream developers, and making the mistake of using copyright law to
express something that should really be expressed in trademark law.

(not speaking for the Debian Project, etc., etc.)

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RE: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Tim Gunning

On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:08:49AM -0500, David P James wrote:
 On February 22, 2004 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
  Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do 
  you steal what is free?
 
  http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free
 
 Except that doesn't apply since the logo is not software.

do they know ?


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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 05:11:37PM -, Tim Gunning wrote:
 
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 11:08:49AM -0500, David P James wrote:
  On February 22, 2004 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
   Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do 
   you steal what is free?
  
   http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free
  
  Except that doesn't apply since the logo is not software.
 
 do they know ?

Yeah, if it's something that someone who's been using Debian for seven
years could have missed, what chance do they have?

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Richard Hoskins
David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Copyright is roughly the right to make a copy. If you are given
 permission to make a copy of a work by the copyright holder, you may
 do so. Most works are distributed too widely to go around granting
 permission to everyone who wants a copy, so licenses are written
 which give one a way to permit people to copy and use a work without
 the copyright holder having to grant permission directly.

Yes, I understand all that.  I want to understand how the store in
question is violating the GPL in this case.  (If in fact the logo is
under the GPL.)  They are not preventing redistribution, withholding
source, preventing modification, or placing any other additional
restrictions on distribution or use.  

 ps. Please reply to the list. I'm subscribed.

Sorry.  My bad.  It was a mistake, not my policy.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread M . Kirchhoff
Patrik Lindahl ramzeus at home.se writes:

 I hope this is the right forum for this...

Send a message to the debian-legal list.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread David Clymer
On Mon, 2004-02-23 at 13:37, Richard Hoskins wrote:
 David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Copyright is roughly the right to make a copy. If you are given
  permission to make a copy of a work by the copyright holder, you may
  do so. Most works are distributed too widely to go around granting
  permission to everyone who wants a copy, so licenses are written
  which give one a way to permit people to copy and use a work without
  the copyright holder having to grant permission directly.
 
 Yes, I understand all that.  I want to understand how the store in
 question is violating the GPL in this case.  (If in fact the logo is
 under the GPL.)  They are not preventing redistribution, withholding
 source, preventing modification, or placing any other additional
 restrictions on distribution or use.  
 

I have no idea  :o)

The focus of my argument was slightly different from the original topic.
It was a response to how can something that is 'free' be stolen?,
rather than directly relating to whether the debian logo is being stolen
in this case.

  ps. Please reply to the list. I'm subscribed.
 
 Sorry.  My bad.  It was a mistake, not my policy.
 

I thought that was probably the case, but wanted to make sure; no
worries.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 01:37:03PM -0500, Richard Hoskins wrote:
 David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Copyright is roughly the right to make a copy. If you are given
  permission to make a copy of a work by the copyright holder, you may
  do so. Most works are distributed too widely to go around granting
  permission to everyone who wants a copy, so licenses are written
  which give one a way to permit people to copy and use a work without
  the copyright holder having to grant permission directly.
 
 Yes, I understand all that.  I want to understand how the store in
 question is violating the GPL in this case.  (If in fact the logo is
 under the GPL.)

The Debian Open Use Logo is not distributed under the GPL, so this is
moot. It is distributed under a different (non-DFSG-free, unfortunately)
licence, which they are not honouring.

  http://www.debian.org/logos/#open-use

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 07:12:09PM +, M. Kirchhoff wrote:
 Patrik Lindahl ramzeus at home.se writes:
  I hope this is the right forum for this...
 
 Send a message to the debian-legal list.

The issue with elektrostore.se is well-known in those circles, but it
has been an issue for a couple of years now. Even if we did get our act
together to sue, we'd probably have lost standing to do so by reason of
our delay.

Personally I think we should just stand by our principles and make the
logo more free. Of course, it would be good to use trademark law instead
of copyright law, but a court might rule that our trademark has been
diluted by now ... it's not clear, and IANAL.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-23 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 23, 2004 at 10:00:06AM -0500, David Clymer said
 This indicates that my saying a work is licensed under the GPL, any user
 thereof must abide by the GPL when using the work in ways addressed by
 this license. One is explicitly denied permission to use the work in
 ways which violate this license. Permission to use the work in
 accordance with the license is implicit.

NOOO.

The GPL explicitly places NO restrictions on the use of software, only
distribution.

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Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Patrik Lindahl
Hi,

I hope this is the right forum for this...

I happened to notice that the logo of elektrostore.se is almost the same
as the Debian logo... It looks like they have changed the color and 
rotated it slightly.
The URL is: http://www.elektrostore.se/

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread David P James
On February 22, 2004 09:51, Patrik Lindahl wrote:
 Hi,

 I hope this is the right forum for this...

 I happened to notice that the logo of elektrostore.se is almost the
 same as the Debian logo... It looks like they have changed the color
 and rotated it slightly.
 The URL is: http://www.elektrostore.se/


It is the same, right down to the three fragments of the swirl at its 
core.

http://www.debian.org/logos/

The Debian project would probably have grounds for copyright 
infringement since the logo is not being used to refer to the Debian 
project.

The site is awful in Konqueror as well - very clunky when scrolling. 
Haven't tried with a Gecko browser yet but it'll probably be worse 
still.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:27:56AM -0500, David P James wrote:

 The Debian project would probably have grounds for copyright 
 infringement since the logo is not being used to refer to the Debian 
 project.

Trademark. 

Sorry, I'm also nitpicking.com.
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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 22 February 2004 16:50, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:27:56AM -0500, David P James wrote:
  The Debian project would probably have grounds for copyright
  infringement since the logo is not being used to refer to the Debian
  project.

 Trademark.

 Sorry, I'm also nitpicking.com.
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1. 
I would recommend against nitpicking with the   missing from the --  above 
your sig.  It invites more of the same ;-)

2. 
Funny, this thread is a rerun of one about three or four months ago...

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Richard Lyons
On Sunday 22 February 2004 17:20, Richard Lyons wrote:
[...]

 1.
 I would recommend against nitpicking with the   missing from the -- 
 above your sig.  It invites more of the same ;-)

Ok, I withdraw that comment - they are apparently being stripped by the 
remailer at d-u.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread John Hasler
Richard Lyons wrote:
 I would recommend against nitpicking with the   missing from the -- 
 above your sig.
 ...
 Ok, I withdraw that comment - they are apparently being stripped by the
 remailer at d-u.

I see no evidence of that.
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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Patrik Lindahl wrote:
 I happened to notice that the logo of elektrostore.se is almost the same
 as the Debian logo... It looks like they have changed the color and 
 rotated it slightly.
 The URL is: http://www.elektrostore.se/

Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do
you steal what is free?

http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:20:43PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
 2. 
 Funny, this thread is a rerun of one about three or four months ago...

And endless flame-wars on the artwork related furry newsgroups...man,
furry artists can be such whiners sometimes...

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 05:26:28PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote:
 Ok, I withdraw that comment - they are apparently being stripped by the 
 remailer at d-u.

Really?  When did that start?

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread David Clymer
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 17:25, Paul Johnson wrote:
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 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 03:51:47PM +0100, Patrik Lindahl wrote:
  I happened to notice that the logo of elektrostore.se is almost the same
  as the Debian logo... It looks like they have changed the color and 
  rotated it slightly.
  The URL is: http://www.elektrostore.se/
 
 Yeah, it's obvious they're using the Debian-swirl there.  But how do
 you steal what is free?
 
 http://www.debian.org/intro/about.en-gb.html#free

Debian's free stuff is still copyrighted, same as everything else.
What makes it Free is an accompanying license which grants an individual
freedom to use the item in question (software, logo, etc) under certain
conditions. So, if software or a logo is taken and used without
permission (only granted if the license is adhered to) it is effectivly
stolen.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Nano Nano
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:09:18PM -0500, David Clymer wrote:
 What makes it Free is an accompanying license which grants an individual
 freedom to use the item in question (software, logo, etc) under certain
 conditions.

Ug.  Listen, you're right and everything, but Freedom and you can 
only use it under certain conditions should not be used in the same 
sentence -- you are debasing the language.  I know all about Absolute 
Freedom and its limits (the term here would be Public Domain) but you 
really shouldn't call that Free as in Freedom.

Please don't soapbox me, I know what you're going to say.

I would call it Responsibility Software because use it responsibily 
is a more precisely correct definition.  Freedom means freedom to 
abuse as well as freedom to use correctly.


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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Carl Fink
I'm not a lawyer, but Debian probably can't claim a trademark (since
it doesn't engage in trade).  A copyright, sure, but I'm not certain
that partially duplicating a logo would be a substantial violation.
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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 11:25:17PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
 I'm not a lawyer, but Debian probably can't claim a trademark (since
 it doesn't engage in trade).

Doesn't it sell CDs as a fund-raiser?  That's trade, just not
necessarily profit-oriented trade.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread David Clymer
On Sun, 2004-02-22 at 22:23, Nano Nano wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 10:09:18PM -0500, David Clymer wrote:
  What makes it Free is an accompanying license which grants an individual
  freedom to use the item in question (software, logo, etc) under certain
  conditions.
 
 Ug.  Listen, you're right and everything, but Freedom and you can 
 only use it under certain conditions should not be used in the same 
 sentence -- you are debasing the language.  I know all about Absolute 
 Freedom and its limits (the term here would be Public Domain) but you 
 really shouldn't call that Free as in Freedom.
 

So you are suggesting that I use Freedom only within certain
constraints? I find your argument somewhat self defeating ;o)

I was explaining how something could be considered to be stolen even
if it is intended to be used freely. A succinct explanation required the
use of the two concepts in close connection with each other.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Tom Vier
  I'm not a lawyer, but Debian probably can't claim a trademark (since
  it doesn't engage in trade).
 Doesn't it sell CDs as a fund-raiser?  That's trade, just not
 necessarily profit-oriented trade.

i have never heard of actual sales being a requirement of trademark law. not
in the US, anyway. that would be a startup's trademarks would be invalid
until they made their first sale. it also would mean charities (mostly)
could not have trademarks.

btw, there is a big difference between a (tm) and an (r). you have a lot
more legal standing and potential compensation if you have a registered
trademark.

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Re: Stolen debian logo?

2004-02-22 Thread Richard Hoskins

David Clymer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So, if software or a logo is taken and used without permission (only
 granted if the license is adhered to) it is effectivly stolen.

What part of what license has been violated in this case?

There are no provisos for asking permission or giving attribution in
the GPL, for example.

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OT: Debian Logo auf dem 5 EUR Schein ;)

2004-01-13 Thread Christian Kienle
Hallo,

ist euch eigentlich schon aufgefallen, dass das Debian Logo auf 
dem 5 EUR Schein drauf ist? Naja zumindest in Ansätzen. Schauts 
euch an ;)

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Re: OT: Debian Logo auf dem 5 EUR Schein ;)

2004-01-13 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2004-01-13 09:31:12, schrieb Christian Kienle:
Hallo,

ist euch eigentlich schon aufgefallen, dass das Debian Logo auf 
dem 5 EUR Schein drauf ist? Naja zumindest in Ansätzen. Schauts 
euch an ;)

Richtig, wenn man ihn auf den kopf stellt ;-)

Gruss Christian

Grüße
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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-20 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:17:45PM -0800, Paul Johnson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
 On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:55:33PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svang?rd wrote:
  I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the Debian logo.
  Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?
 
 I think it's different enough (even though a pretty obvious gimp-up of
 part of the Debian logo) that it would be kinda like Cingular getting
 sued by Handspring for using a little icon of a human doing a jumping
 jack (since Handpsring and pretty much every other tech company from
 around the same era all used remarkably similar generic
 anthropomorphic corporate logo.

Sorry, Paul, but it's a direct copy, color-shifted and rotated.

I disagree.

Peace.

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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-19 Thread Björn Lindström
BruceG [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 They probably do.

 damn now i have to think of an excuse to not have to hit anybody.
 i will probably be beaten up

 Nah - just start a rumor that Osama shops there. 

Hey, stop trying to get my home bombed!

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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-19 Thread Mark Cooke
On Thu, 2003-12-18 at 23:21, Ken Gilmour wrote:

 Those bastards... Id kick ass if they could speak english!

Look on the good side, at least they have heard of Debian ;)

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Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread Nils-Erik Svangård
Hi!

I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the Debian logo.
Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?

/nisse


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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread Ken Gilmour
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:55:33 +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote:
 Hi!


 I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the Debian
 logo. Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?

 /nisse

Those bastards... Id kick ass if they could speak english!



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RE: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread Joyce, Matthew
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Gilmour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, 19 December 2003 10:22 AM
 To: Debian User Mailinglist
 Subject: Re: Debian logo stolen.
 
 
 On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:55:33 +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote:
  Hi!
 
 
  I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the Debian
  logo. Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?
 
  /nisse
 
 Those bastards... Id kick ass if they could speak english!
 
 

They probably do.



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RE: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread Ken Gilmour
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:33:40 +1100, Joyce, Matthew wrote:
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken Gilmour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19
 December 2003 10:22 AM To: Debian User Mailinglist Subject: Re:
 Debian logo stolen.


 On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:55:33 +0100, Nils-Erik Svangård wrote:

 Hi!


 I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the
 Debian  logo. Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?

 /nisse


 Those bastards... Id kick ass if they could speak english!


 They probably do.

damn now i have to think of an excuse to not have to hit anybody.
i will probably be beaten up



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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread BruceG
 They probably do.

damn now i have to think of an excuse to not have to hit anybody.
i will probably be beaten up

Nah - just start a rumor that Osama shops there. 


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Re: Debian logo stolen.

2003-12-18 Thread Paul Johnson
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 10:55:33PM +0100, Nils-Erik Svang?rd wrote:
 I remember some news about elektrostore.se had stolen the Debian logo.
 Since they are still using it, did nothing happen?

I think it's different enough (even though a pretty obvious gimp-up of
part of the Debian logo) that it would be kinda like Cingular getting
sued by Handspring for using a little icon of a human doing a jumping
jack (since Handpsring and pretty much every other tech company from
around the same era all used remarkably similar generic
anthropomorphic corporate logo.

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Re: Debian-Logo Font

2003-07-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Ihr da...


Am 12:38 2003-06-30 +0200 hat Bertram Scharpf geschrieben:

Hallo,

Am Sonntag, 29. Jun 2003, 16:41:42 +0200 schrieb Clemens Wohld:
 Hallo, 
 
 * On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:25:37PM +0200, Tobias Lohner wrote:
  
  ich suche f|r ein Logo den Font, der im offiziellen Debian-Logo
verwendet wird.
  Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen?
  Gru_,
 
 Eins nach dem Anderen, erstmal solltest du fuer den richtigen font
 in deinem mailreader sorgen. Der kann naeml. keine Umlaute [äöüß).

Bei mir sind die Umlaute anständig angezeigt worden. Nur
das Zitat in Deiner Mail enthält f|r und Gru_.

Dasselbe Verhalten zeigt |less.

Eigenartig, 

habe das gleiche verhaltemn seit einem Rechner reboot...
In mc werden alle umlaute und sonderzeichen richtig angezeigt, 
aber beim Tippen von sonderzeichen, kommen diese seltsamen 
Zeichen zustande... 

Michelle


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Re: Debian-Logo Font

2003-07-04 Thread J-T Krug
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 17:56 schrieb Michelle Konzack:

 Eigenartig,

 habe das gleiche verhaltemn seit einem Rechner reboot...
 In mc werden alle umlaute und sonderzeichen richtig angezeigt,
 aber beim Tippen von sonderzeichen, kommen diese seltsamen
 Zeichen zustande...

Wird wohl an den dämlichen MAG DX15F liegen.


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Re: Debian-Logo Font

2003-06-30 Thread Clemens Wohld
Hallo, 

* On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:25:37PM +0200, Tobias Lohner wrote:
 
 ich suche f|r ein Logo den Font, der im offiziellen Debian-Logo verwendet wird.
 Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen?
 Gru_,

Eins nach dem Anderen, erstmal solltest du fuer den richtigen font
in deinem mailreader sorgen. Der kann naeml. keine Umlaute [äöüß).

Zu deiner Frage: www.google.de ... ich hab auf die Schnelle _das_
hier gefunden. Ansonsten such mal auf debian.org | debian-*

http://www.debian.org/international/l10n/po/todo.de.html

Hier font-pakete die _nicht_ i18n-isiert sind.

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Re: Debian-Logo Font

2003-06-30 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hallo,

Am Sonntag, 29. Jun 2003, 16:41:42 +0200 schrieb Clemens Wohld:
 Hallo, 
 
 * On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 05:25:37PM +0200, Tobias Lohner wrote:
  
  ich suche f|r ein Logo den Font, der im offiziellen Debian-Logo verwendet wird.
  Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen?
  Gru_,
 
 Eins nach dem Anderen, erstmal solltest du fuer den richtigen font
 in deinem mailreader sorgen. Der kann naeml. keine Umlaute [äöüß).

Bei mir sind die Umlaute anständig angezeigt worden. Nur
das Zitat in Deiner Mail enthält f|r und Gru_.

Dasselbe Verhalten zeigt |less.

Gruß/Gru_
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Debian-Logo Font

2003-06-24 Thread Tobias Lohner
Hallo,

ich suche für ein Logo den Font, der im offiziellen Debian-Logo verwendet wird.
Kann mir da jemand weiterhelfen?

Gruß,
 Tobias

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font in debian logo

2003-06-24 Thread Tobias Lohner
Hi,

does anyone know where to get the font which is used in the official debian
logo?

Thanks.

Tobias

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Re: font in debian logo

2003-06-24 Thread Joerg Rossdeutscher
Hi,

Am Die, 2003-06-24 um 17.26 schrieb Tobias Lohner:
 does anyone know where to get the font which is used in the official debian
 logo?

Don't know, but have you tried http://www.myfonts.com/WhatTheFont/ ?

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debian logo

2002-12-17 Thread digitalfredy
hola listeros

bueno quero compartirles esto  tan bonito que me encontre un dia navegando por
la red.
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Debian logo i din Nokia.

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Dalvald
Hej!

Hittade inte en Debian logo att ladda ner någonstans. Och så är det bara att 
göra det själv. (på http://www.goyada.com/ys/tv4/level4/fotopix.html# )
Har klickat på 'publicera' i online ritverktyget men den verkar inte 
publiceras.
I alla fall så är den i kategorin 'diverse' under format 'nokia logo' med 
namn 'Debian Swirl'

Så här är den infon jag fick för att hämta min logo (vilket fungerar) 
och jag antar att det borde funka för er också. Används naturligtvis på egen 
risk.. :)

Såhär laddar du hem din bild
Allt du behöver göra är att skicka ett SMS till kort-nummer 72335.
Texten i meddelandet skall vara: mypic 49015121
SMS:t kostar dig 10 kronor.

Glömde nästan. Här är bilden jag utgick från:
http://gnuart.onshore.com/images/debian/logos/open/openHorColor.png

ps, om det är någon som förbättrar loggan och lägger upp en ny version, säg 
gärna till. Detta är ju bara 0.1pre1.. ;-)


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Re: Debian logo i din Nokia.

2002-07-29 Thread Johan Bergström
Michael Dalvald [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hej!
 
 Hittade inte en Debian logo att ladda ner någonstans. Och så är det bara att
 göra det själv. (på http://www.goyada.com/ys/tv4/level4/fotopix.html# ) Har
 klickat på 'publicera' i online ritverktyget men den verkar inte publiceras.
 I alla fall så är den i kategorin 'diverse' under format 'nokia logo' med namn
 'Debian Swirl'
 
 Så här är den infon jag fick för att hämta min logo (vilket fungerar) och jag
 antar att det borde funka för er också. Används naturligtvis på egen risk.. :)
 
 Såhär laddar du hem din bild Allt du behöver göra är att skicka ett SMS till
 kort-nummer 72335.  Texten i meddelandet skall vara: mypic 49015121 SMS:t
 kostar dig 10 kronor.
 

Kanonsnyggt, nu måste jag gå o impa på mina redhat polare :-)

Johbe

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Re: Debian logo i din Nokia.

2002-07-29 Thread David Karlström
- Original Message - From: Michael Dalvald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Hej!

 Hittade inte en Debian logo att ladda ner någonstans. Och så är det bara
att
 göra det själv. (på http://www.goyada.com/ys/tv4/level4/fotopix.html# )
 Har klickat på 'publicera' i online ritverktyget men den verkar inte
 publiceras.
 I alla fall så är den i kategorin 'diverse' under format 'nokia logo' med
 namn 'Debian Swirl'

 Så här är den infon jag fick för att hämta min logo (vilket fungerar)
 och jag antar att det borde funka för er också. Används naturligtvis på
egen
 risk.. :)

 Såhär laddar du hem din bild
 Allt du behöver göra är att skicka ett SMS till kort-nummer 72335.
 Texten i meddelandet skall vara: mypic 49015121
 SMS:t kostar dig 10 kronor.

 Glömde nästan. Här är bilden jag utgick från:
 http://gnuart.onshore.com/images/debian/logos/open/openHorColor.png

 ps, om det är någon som förbättrar loggan och lägger upp en ny version,
säg
 gärna till. Detta är ju bara 0.1pre1.. ;-)

Snyggt, måste ladda ner till telefonen direkt!

Här är en bild om någon vill se
http://www.goyada.com:8735/fotopix/pict/15121.gif
Verkar inte finnas i arkivet.

MvH
/David


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Re: Debian logo i din Nokia.

2002-07-29 Thread Michael Dalvald
On Monday 29 July 2002 19:19, David Karlström wrote:
 Snyggt, måste ladda ner till telefonen direkt!

Trevligt att folk uppskattar den.

 Verkar inte finnas i arkivet.

Kan nog vara så att de själva måste granska den för att de ska publicera den.
Tror inte de vill råka distribuera nazist loggor och sånt.
Så det är förhoppningsvis bara in tidsfråga innan den dyker upp.

/Michael


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Debian logo on the front page of the Sydney Morning Herald Web site!!

2002-05-24 Thread Mark Purcell
FWIW,

The Debian logo is currently sitting on the front page of the Sydney
Morning Herald web site http://www.smh.com.au. For those who
aren't aware the SMH is proably one of the largest mainstream newspapers
in Australia.

The story it links to is the Internet2 speed record, which was
announced on debian-news two days ago.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/05/23/1022038451171.html

Well done guys!!!

Mark


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Debian Logo

2002-04-07 Thread Stefan Pfetzing

Hi,

ich spiele seit einer geraumen Weile mit dem Gedanken mir das Debian Logo auf
meinen Apple iBook zu kleben. Das Problem scheint nun aber zu sein das ich
nirgendwo eine Vektorgrafik des Logos gefunden hab die sich leicht plotten
lassen würde (ich möchte das so gross haben das das um den (leuchtenden) Apfel
auf der Rückseite des Displays geht).

Wäre nett wenn irgendwer mir sagen könnte ob und wo es Vektorgrafiken des
Logos gibt.

bye

Stefan


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Re: Debian Logo

2002-04-07 Thread Peter Palfrader

Stefan Pfetzing schrieb am Sonntag, dem 07. April 2002:

 Das Problem scheint nun aber zu sein das ich
 nirgendwo eine Vektorgrafik des Logos gefunden hab die sich leicht plotten
 lassen würde (ich möchte das so gross haben das das um den (leuchtenden) Apfel
 auf der Rückseite des Displays geht).

Tja, http://www.debian.org/logos/ ist echt gut versteckt. Und erst der
EPS link auf der Seite, kaum zu finden!

HTH
yours,
peter

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Re: Debian Logo

2002-04-07 Thread Stefan Pflüger

On Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:31:46 +0200
Stefan Pfetzing [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

schnippel 

 Wäre nett wenn irgendwer mir sagen könnte ob und wo es Vektorgrafiken des
 Logos gibt.
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Hallo, 
http://gnuart.onshore.com/debian_logos_svg.html
scheinen Vektorgrafiken zu sein (SVG... Scalable Vector Graphics glaube ich)
Ich kenn mich zwar nicht damit aus, aber ich hoffe, dass sie dir weiterhelfen

MfG Stefan


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