Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On 8 October 2012 15:37, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Then install it! As one paranoid to another, you really have nothing to lose. Ok, got it! I'm good to go! :-) BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AT ALL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR WINDOWS DRIVE WELL BACKED UP. Done! I'm good to go Lisi. Good to go! :-)) Sorry to shout, but you don't seem to have taken that in!! Your Windows drive is precious to you. You need to have a good backup at all times. What if your drive dies? You are not paranoid enough about this!! Thank you for this most important warning. Its always good to make sure it sinks in! It's all taken care of. I'm good to go! Install it!! Good luck, Ok, I'm good to go. I'm good to go! That's good news! BTW, I noticed you replied to this post off-list. Oh, dear. I struggle rather with Gmail, which is hopefully only temporary. I actually posted some off-list replies to the list to keep the chain of events in order. Perhaps I shouldn't have done that but my last post I emailed to you (on-list) asked questions that you answered here. I just want to be sure that the question/answer cycle is complete for other newbie installers who read the thread. Thank you. That is very helpful. I'll reply off-list in the future to all off-lists emails. I'm fairly new to this mailing list stuff as well and keep forgetting to reply-all when responding. I used to work in MS Outlook express for my mail prior to moving to gmail. Outlook express replied to all automatically when I responded. Gmail does not automatically do this which is probably better. Gmail just takes some getting used to. You can say that again! If you can kindly 'add' the reply you sent me today to the user-list (to complete the thread) I would appreciate it. I'll try. My previous errors do not suggest that my attempts will necessarily be successful! Perhaps a shortened version to save you time. If you want me to add the reply just let me know. I'm installing Debian and have no further pre-install questions unless of course something happens that requires help. In that case I will have started a new thread (different topic). Lisi, thanks for your patience and help. You're very welcome. let us (or anyhow me!) know how you get on. Lisi Sorry all. Untrimmed at the bottom here because I am cack-handed at all things Gmail. :-( Wally On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 4:09 AM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Wally, On 7 October 2012 22:26, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2012 19:05, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested and run that from the USB stick and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? On Oct 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com replied: No. You have to offer that at a later stage when you are asked for it by the installer. Hi Lisi, Thanks for helping again. Can we please start over? I'm not understanding. Before installing Debian Squeeze via the netinst.iso file, I was advised to run the Debian LiveCd to test my systems hardware. Is this still recommended or should I forget the liveCD and simply begin the install process to my hard drive using the netinst CD that I burned? Yes. Just try to install. It will soon tell you that there is a problem, if there is one. And what have you got to lose? If you do recommend that I simply begin the install to my hard drive, and if during the install, the installer asked for firmware, then I place the USB stick into the computer (that has the the firmware on it) Yes. OR should the USB stick already be in the computer prior to the install? No. If you need to put it in, you will be asked by the installer. This is confusing and I appreciate your help. You are making it a good deal more confusing than it needs to be. There is nothing we can say that will enable you to visualise the whole process. Just take a leap in the dark. Here is the link where I downloaded the firmware .zip file http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ It doesn't matter. Just install. If you have got the wrong file the installer will soon tell you! I would strongly recommend using ethernet, not wi-fi, for your net install if you possibly can. It is easier and you are much less likely to need firmware. Thanks for that advice. Yes, I am using ethernet for the net install. [snip a long list of unnecessary details.] Just trying to get Debian installed. Thank you very much! Then install it! As one paranoid to another, you really have nothing to lose. BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AT ALL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR WINDOWS DRIVE WELL BACKED UP. Sorry to shout, but you don't seem to have taken that in!! Your
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
Hi, Wally, On 7 October 2012 22:26, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: On 7 October 2012 19:05, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested and run that from the USB stick and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? On Oct 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com replied: No. You have to offer that at a later stage when you are asked for it by the installer. Hi Lisi, Thanks for helping again. Can we please start over? I'm not understanding. Before installing Debian Squeeze via the netinst.iso file, I was advised to run the Debian LiveCd to test my systems hardware. Is this still recommended or should I forget the liveCD and simply begin the install process to my hard drive using the netinst CD that I burned? Yes. Just try to install. It will soon tell you that there is a problem, if there is one. And what have you got to lose? If you do recommend that I simply begin the install to my hard drive, and if during the install, the installer asked for firmware, then I place the USB stick into the computer (that has the the firmware on it) Yes. OR should the USB stick already be in the computer prior to the install? No. If you need to put it in, you will be asked by the installer. This is confusing and I appreciate your help. You are making it a good deal more confusing than it needs to be. There is nothing we can say that will enable you to visualise the whole process. Just take a leap in the dark. Here is the link where I downloaded the firmware .zip file http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ It doesn't matter. Just install. If you have got the wrong file the installer will soon tell you! I would strongly recommend using ethernet, not wi-fi, for your net install if you possibly can. It is easier and you are much less likely to need firmware. Thanks for that advice. Yes, I am using ethernet for the net install. [snip a long list of unnecessary details.] Just trying to get Debian installed. Thank you very much! Then install it! As one paranoid to another, you really have nothing to lose. BEFORE DOING ANYTHING AT ALL MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE YOUR WINDOWS DRIVE WELL BACKED UP. Sorry to shout, but you don't seem to have taken that in!! Your Windows drive is precious to you. You need to have a good backup at all times. What if your drive dies? You are not paranoid enough about this!! Then, just install and see where it gets you. There is nothing else that we collectively can do to help you install. Only you can do anything more. Install it!! Good luck, Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAP6GWwo8QhzJcwYMFX3CS=qjul0b9bsvem5n0vg1bd829d-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the guide. Hi Brian Chapter 6 discusses using the Debian Installer. I am not utilizing the installer. I downloaded the netinst.iso file. Is there a difference? Here is the link that describes the netinst file that I downloaded. http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by unzipping the file you get from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2. I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested and run that from the USB stick and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? Appreciate the help in getting Debian installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDXikqre3=vsgk_qri-udhpm0mlruksx8qyl4spe1__7an...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On 20121007_140524, Wally Lepore wrote: On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the guide. Hi Brian Chapter 6 discusses using the Debian Installer. I am not utilizing the installer. I downloaded the netinst.iso file. Is there a difference? Here is the link that describes the netinst file that I downloaded. http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by unzipping the file you get from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2. I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested and run that from the USB stick and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? Appreciate the help in getting Debian installed. Wally, Windows and Debian use different file systems on disk. I think Windows is incapable of modifying data on extN formatted disks that Debian uses. And Windows does have some safety checks that keep you from mistakenly formatting a disk that already has a non-Windows format on it. Conversely, Debian can read and write the Windows file system, but only if you tell it to mount the Windows disk. During install you will be given a opportunity to select what disks and partitions you want Debian to mount in detail. Use this opportunity. Make sure you see the Windows disk while configuring, and be sure you select do not mount. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121007191824.gb26...@big.lan.gnu
[NIT] Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sunday, October 07, 2012 03:18:25 PM Paul E Condon wrote: Windows and Debian use different file systems on disk. I think Windows is incapable of modifying data on extN formatted disks that Debian uses. A minor NIT to pick. There is an EXT3 driver for Winders that enables it to read and write certain Linux file systems. It worked quite well, though it's been some years since I used it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210071528.45778.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
Re: [NIT] Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On 20121007_152845, Neal Murphy wrote: On Sunday, October 07, 2012 03:18:25 PM Paul E Condon wrote: Windows and Debian use different file systems on disk. I think Windows is incapable of modifying data on extN formatted disks that Debian uses. A minor NIT to pick. There is an EXT3 driver for Winders that enables it to read and write certain Linux file systems. It worked quite well, though it's been some years since I used it. I didn't know that. Wally, I had assumed that your Windows computer is a plain vanilla Windows machine with the only software on it purchased from a Microsoft approved software outlet. But if the computer you have has been powned by a Debian hating Linux guru to has placed a version of Linux some other Linus on it in a hidden location waiting and watching for a Debian install ... Well even paranoids can have enemies. Be afraid, be very afraid... ;-) -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121007200047.gc26...@big.lan.gnu
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sun 07 Oct 2012 at 14:05:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: Chapter 6 discusses using the Debian Installer. I am not utilizing the installer. I downloaded the netinst.iso file. Is there a difference? No difference. They are the same thing. I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested Yes. and run that from the USB stick You do not run it, you unzip it. The contents of the zip file then get unpacked. and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? No. The unpacked files are used by the installer (your netinst,iso) if they are required. It will tell you if you need to provide firmware. You have the netinst.iso on a CD, I think. Have you actually booted from it? If you haven't, do it immediately after reading this mail. Remove the drive you have Windows on if you must. Read the installer Guide, stop agonising and get stuck in. You may make mistakes, but so what. It's only an operating system you are installing, not a procedure to replace a defective heart. You can always start all over again. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121007204806.GD30872@desktop
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On 7 October 2012 19:05, Wally Lepore wallylep...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not understanding please. Do I download the .zip file you suggested and run that from the USB stick and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? On Oct 7, 2012 at 2:18 PM, Lisi Reisz lisi.re...@gmail.com replied: No. You have to offer that at a later stage when you are asked for it by the installer. Hi Lisi, Thanks for helping again. Can we please start over? I'm not understanding. Before installing Debian Squeeze via the netinst.iso file, I was advised to run the Debian LiveCd to test my systems hardware. Is this still recommended or should I forget the liveCD and simply begin the install process to my hard drive using the netinst CD that I burned? If you do recommend that I simply begin the install to my hard drive, and if during the install, the installer asked for firmware, then I place the USB stick into the computer (that has the the firmware on it) OR should the USB stick already be in the computer prior to the install? This is confusing and I appreciate your help. Here is the link where I downloaded the firmware .zip file http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/squeeze/current/ I would strongly recommend using ethernet, not wi-fi, for your net install if you possibly can. It is easier and you are much less likely to need firmware. Thanks for that advice. Yes, I am using ethernet for the net install. By the way, here is a link to the motherboard I'm using to install Debian Squeeze. The motherboard is an iWill DVD266R. The board has SMP as it uses 'two' pentium III processors. It provides up to 4 gigs 'max' of DDR memory however I only have 1 gig of RAM installed. It should handle Debian Squeeze (basic system) no problem. I can provide any additional hardware specs if needed. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/iwill-dvd266-r.html The Debian detailed instruction guide says that dual processors are supported. See: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s01.html.en#id583798 I have the raid controllers turned 'off' and using an 80 gig Western Digital EIDE hard drive to install Debian to. Also following instructions on section titled, 3.6.3. Miscellaneous BIOS Settings http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s06.html.en#id586045 Complete Debian Install instructions for i386 http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ Just trying to get Debian installed. Thank you very much! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldxikqaxioaasbkh31akasg8xkxga71fyxgm8obplfxb9s...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 07 Oct 2012 at 14:05:24 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: and run that from the USB stick? You do not run it, you unzip it. The contents of the zip file then get unpacked. Yes I understand how to extract files. Sorry, I meant to say: After downloading the zip file, do I unpack it to a folder on the USB drive? I just extracted all the files from the firmware zip file 'as a test' to see the contents and noticed all the files are .deb files. Ok I understand now. I thought the firmware zip file contained an iso image or something that needed to be burned to the USB drive. Sorry for the confusion. and that alone will tell me if any firmware is needed for my system prior to running the netinst CD I created? No. The unpacked files are used by the installer (your netinst,iso) if they are required. It will tell you if you need to provide firmware. Ok, therefore both the netinst cd installer and the USB stick have to be in the computer at boot up? or if the installer asks for the firmware I simply plug in the USB drive that contains the firmware files? You have the netinst.iso on a CD, I think. Yes I have it already it burned to a CD. Have you actually booted from it? No, not yet. If you haven't, do it immediately after reading this mail. Remove the drive you have Windows on if you must. Read the installer Guide, stop agonising and get stuck in. You may make mistakes, but so what. It's only an operating system you are installing, not a procedure to replace a defective heart. You can always start all over again. Ok got it! But just to clarify. The reason I was holding back is because it was suggested that I run the LiveCD first and see if Debian has any issues with my hardware etc. So what you are recommending is forget the LiveCD and just boot up the installer and begin the install process to my hard drive? Thanks Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldxikp5s5hez1frcvnrgbzt6cs1z9q_iv0ud8dfnjeerr4...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sun 07 Oct 2012 at 19:02:29 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: You do not run it, you unzip it. The contents of the zip file then get unpacked. Yes I understand how to extract files. Sorry, I meant to say: After downloading the zip file, do I unpack it to a folder on the USB drive? I just extracted all the files from the firmware zip file 'as a test' to see the contents and noticed all the files are .deb files. Ok I understand now. I thought the firmware zip file contained an iso image or something that needed to be burned to the USB drive. Sorry for the confusion. Just copy the extracted .deb files to the USB drive. Or put the firmware zip file on the drive and extract them there. There is no ned to put them in a folder on the drive No. The unpacked files are used by the installer (your netinst,iso) if they are required. It will tell you if you need to provide firmware. Ok, therefore both the netinst cd installer and the USB stick have to be in the computer at boot up? or if the installer asks for the firmware I simply plug in the USB drive that contains the firmware files? The USB stick does not have to be in computer at boot time. Take the second option. If you haven't, do it immediately after reading this mail. Remove the drive you have Windows on if you must. Read the installer Guide, stop agonising and get stuck in. You may make mistakes, but so what. It's only an operating system you are installing, not a procedure to replace a defective heart. You can always start all over again. Ok got it! But just to clarify. The reason I was holding back is because it was suggested that I run the LiveCD first and see if Debian has any issues with my hardware etc. The firmware .debs should accomodate just about all the common hardware a user would meet. So what you are recommending is forget the LiveCD and just boot up the installer and begin the install process to my hard drive? That would be my recommendation. If you do not get a move on Wheezy will have been released. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121007233413.GF30872@desktop
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:03:11PM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: Hi Members, I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the internet. Yep, that is what the netinst is for. :) I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work with the Debian OS. Debian will coexist with other OS's whereas Windows is a selfish OS and wants everything for itself. I would ditch Windows completely unless you know you need it because you have proprietry software. Although nowadays there is usually a Linux alternative. More importantly, is hardware support; make sure Linux will work with your hardware. I would grab a LiveCD and check the hardware works. At least you can get a listing (lspci, et al) for further checks. I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I found instructions here that describe the set-up: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/ Yeah, just be aware of the Disk UUID and also where you stick the MBR. But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method does not cause BIOS or firmware issues. The hardware may require firmware regardless. That is why I suggest you get a listing of your hardware, then you can find out if firmware is required. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121006085413.GD18130@tal
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Fri 05 Oct 2012 at 19:03:11 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the internet. I was reading the install instructions here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ This is extremely detailed and certainly very helpful. However since I only have one CD to install, can I simply load the install CD and follow on the on-screen installation walk-thru that includes setting up the partitions (similar to Ubuntu's installer) or will I be expecting something completely different? Just would like to know what's headed my way before loading the CD. You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by unzipping the file you get from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2. You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would suit many people. I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work with the Debian OS. In this situation installing GRUB to the MBR of the drive should go very smoothly. I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I found instructions here that describe the set-up: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/ But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method does not cause BIOS or firmware issues. Not a problem. Just do it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121006094604.GA30872@desktop
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Saturday 06 October 2012 10:46:04 Brian wrote: On Fri 05 Oct 2012 at 19:03:11 -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the internet. I was reading the install instructions here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ This is extremely detailed and certainly very helpful. However since I only have one CD to install, can I simply load the install CD and follow on the on-screen installation walk-thru that includes setting up the partitions (similar to Ubuntu's installer) or will I be expecting something completely different? Just would like to know what's headed my way before loading the CD. You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by unzipping the file you get from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2. You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would suit many people. I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work with the Debian OS. In this situation installing GRUB to the MBR of the drive should go very smoothly. I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I found instructions here that describe the set-up: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7 -on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/ But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method does not cause BIOS or firmware issues. I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having Windows on one HDD and Linux on another. I then switched between them by changing the boot order in the BIOS. Easier and quicker than moving disks around. I solve the problem now by not having Windows! Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210061114.48305.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
Chris Bannister wrote: (On Oct, 06, 2012) Debian will coexist with other OS's whereas Windows is a selfish OS and wants everything for itself. That is why I can't afford a single trip-up with upsetting windows. My whole life is on that drive! Sure I have my files backed up but the applications alone would simply take weeks to reinstall if need be. I would ditch Windows completely unless you know you need it because you have proprietry software. Although nowadays there is usually a Linux alternative. More importantly, is hardware support; make sure Linux will work with your hardware. I understand your suggestion and eventually I hope to move in that direction but -for now- its highly unlikely that I'd be able to make a 100% switch. I am involved with stock and currency trading and utilize a whole bunch of applications for this profession. I am also a musician and likewise utilize Sonar as my Digital Audio Workstation along with a host of other applications to assist in composing music. I also work with video editing and a host of other photo work. I understand there are replacements for some (if not all of these) applications, but the downtime would be enormous and I just can't afford that right now. Step-by-step (as you already know). Thanks for the up-lifting spirit. :-) I would grab a LiveCD and check the hardware works. At least you can get a listing (lspci, et al) for further checks. Is this the link for the live CD? http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ I ask because I attempted to install Ubuntu awhile back and their LiveCd was a snap to find and download but that's a whole other story. I'm still learning my way around Debian's web site. The hardware may require firmware regardless. That is why I suggest you get a listing of your hardware, then you can find out if firmware is required. Using the Live CD link above? Thank you for helping Chris. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldxikoqey2kcqz7-yrnwbwvp6kn_2s+-t5ynjwz4bp6hl0...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:46 AM), You will have a good idea what to expect after reading Chapter 6 of the guide. You will also have prepared for the possible need for firmware by unzipping the file you get from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/ to a USB stick after reading Section 2.2. You might want to take up the offer at the partitioning stage of doing it manually. One large partition and a GB or two of swap space would suit many people. Hi Brian, Yes I am studying and reading Chapter 6. That link you sent me above...is that for the LiveCD that test my hardware for firmware? I never burned anything to a USB stick. Reading section 2.2 should be a real education. I read in the past that burning iso images to a USB can destroy the USB stick. It's just what I've read but I have no experience performing this procedure as of yet. Reading section 2.2 now. Thanks Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caldxikpaaerp50rk_fq+93ajpo_vcpr37jto2kofydoyyjm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:14 AM), I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having Windows on one HDD and Linux on another. I then switched between them by changing the boot order in the BIOS. Easier and quicker than moving disks around. I solve the problem now by not having Windows! Lisi Hi Lisi, Good point. I am aware of changing the boot order of the drives in BIOS but someone brought up a good point awhile back. If I have both drives on a single cable (Windows drive set to master and Debian drive set to slave), can I change the boot order and make a slave drive boot first? I was warned that this may not work. I thought changing the boot order only works when drives (disks) are installed on their own separate ribbon cables and each drive is set to master (obviously). Thank you Lisi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDXikoZ8HOAny8y=etgybammqsxfqgyxgocdp-701aedgc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Saturday 06 October 2012 15:22:52 Wally Lepore wrote: Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: (On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 6:14 AM), I have in the past set up a system on which I dual-booted by having Windows on one HDD and Linux on another. I then switched between them by changing the boot order in the BIOS. Easier and quicker than moving disks around. I solve the problem now by not having Windows! Lisi Hi Lisi, Good point. I am aware of changing the boot order of the drives in BIOS but someone brought up a good point awhile back. If I have both drives on a single cable (Windows drive set to master and Debian drive set to slave), can I change the boot order and make a slave drive boot first? I was warned that this may not work. I thought changing the boot order only works when drives (disks) are installed on their own separate ribbon cables and each drive is set to master (obviously). Thank you Lisi. Hi, Wally, It was quite a long time ago, but so far as I remember they were both on the same cable. I think that I had both optical drives on one cable and both IDE drives on another. It may depend on the specific motherboard and BIOS, the specific cables and drives, even which way the wind is blowing. ;-) The fact that it worked for me, doesn't mean that it will work for you. But if your informant only says that it might not work, then there is nothing to lose. Why not try it? If it works, well and good. If it doesn't work, too bad, and go back to your original plan. Before doing any playing around, if the stuff you have on your Windows HDD is so precious, you really need a good backup, such as done by Clonezilla, Norton Ghost,etc.; even dd. Indeed, you need that good a backup all the time in case the HDD dies. (They do you know. Usually just when it is most inconvenient.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201210061704.42672.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
On Sat, Oct 06, 2012 at 10:04:17AM -0400, Wally Lepore wrote: Is this the link for the live CD? http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ Thats one. There is also knoppix, and various others. I ask because I attempted to install Ubuntu awhile back and their LiveCd was a snap to find and download but that's a whole other story. If you still have it lying around, I'd use that, the software to get the hardware is not specific to Debian. I'd just run sudo lspci -vv in a terminal and save as a text file to any old USB stick you've got lying around. Boot CD - Plug in USB - find out where it is mounted, then in a terminal issue: sudo lspci -vv /mountpoint/lspci-list and voila! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121006185242.GA27840@tal
Debian Small CD install netinst.iso
Hi Members, I just downloaded the Debian netinst.iso file called debian-6.0.6-i386-netinst.iso. The file is only 191 MB because it installs the most basic Debian system. I then acquire the rest via the internet. I was reading the install instructions here: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ This is extremely detailed and certainly very helpful. However since I only have one CD to install, can I simply load the install CD and follow on the on-screen installation walk-thru that includes setting up the partitions (similar to Ubuntu's installer) or will I be expecting something completely different? Just would like to know what's headed my way before loading the CD. The install link (above) is incredibly detailed. I found the BIOS settings titled, 3.6.3. Miscellaneous BIOS Settings to be very helpful. I will be installing Debian to a freshly wiped-clean hard drive. No other OS will be present on the hard drive. Not a Dual boot (in this case). I do have windows loaded on a separate hard drive but I will remove this drive and install the Debian drive when I choose to work with the Debian OS. I understand I can load a dual boot using two separate drives as I found instructions here that describe the set-up: http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2012/07/23/dual-boot-ubuntu-12-04-and-windows-7-on-a-computer-with-2-hard-drives/ But unless someone can kindly convince me otherwise, I simply prefer to keep both OS's from ever knowing each other. I hope this method does not cause BIOS or firmware issues. Thank you -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CALDXikqm6vBmCZhjhX0AqOs1EjCd9pA60UqjS=qgy9w0w4s...@mail.gmail.com
