Re: Debian and KDE33
John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? Thanks :-) -- Cheers John LinuxUser aka Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- registered-Linux-user # 134.818 at http://counter.li.org The box said Windows, NT or better, so I installed Linux :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 09:40:11AM +0200, Josef Oswald wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? I suppose: deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free but it's not really in use right now. Packages that are currently frozen would probably get security updates either through there or testing-proposed-updates, but I wouldn't put faith in that until sarge is officially released. -- You win again, gravity! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
Josef Oswald wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? Thanks :-) Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable. vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
Josef Oswald wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? Thanks :-) Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable. vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
Josef Oswald wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? Thanks :-) Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable. vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
I suppose: deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free but it's not really in use right now. Packages that are currently frozen would probably get security updates either through there or testing-proposed-updates, but I wouldn't put faith in that until sarge is officially released. I've been getting packages files: I've not instpected them, but they seem bigger than empty. Downloading them takes an appreciable period. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
On Tue, Aug 24, 2004 at 05:06:57PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote: I suppose: deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free but it's not really in use right now. Packages that are currently frozen would probably get security updates either through there or testing-proposed-updates, but I wouldn't put faith in that until sarge is officially released. I've been getting packages files: I've not instpected them, but they seem bigger than empty. Downloading them takes an appreciable period. It contains two packages, glibc and tinyproxy, both of which are ancient. No idea why they are there. -- You win again, gravity! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Josef Oswald wrote: John Summerfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. Where please? Because here it says: http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ Please note that security updates for testing distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, testing does not get security updates in a timely manner. For more information please see the Security Team's FAQ. So if you do know a _working_ link can you please post it here? Thanks :-) Mostly, that's true. Right now though Sarge is preparing to go stable. Thanks :-) Yes this time I stay with _stable_. :-) vim -c %s=woody=sarge=g /etc/apt/sources.list -- Cheers John -- LinuxUser aka Josef Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- registered-linux-user # 134.818 at http://counter.li.org The box said Windows, NT or better, so I installed Linux :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here is the current kde info from the debian site: stable: 2.2.25 testing: 3.1.2 unstable: 3.1.2 although my unstable says: 3.2.3, so the site appears to a bit out of date. I think kde 3.3 has arrived in unstable. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy kdebase kdebase: Installed: 4:3.2.2-1 Candidate: 4:3.2.2-1 Version Table: 4:3.3.0-1 0 800 http://ftp.no.debian.org sid/main Packages *** 4:3.2.2-1 0 900 http://ftp.no.debian.org sarge/main Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 4:2.2.2-14.7 0 -10 http://ftp.no.debian.org woody/main Packages -10 http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages I'm at 3.2.2 on my Sarge system -- John L. Fjellstad web: http://www.fjellstad.org/ Quis custodiet ipsos custodes -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
On Tue, 2004-08-24 at 01:20, John L Fjellstad wrote: Kevin Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: here is the current kde info from the debian site: stable: 2.2.25 testing: 3.1.2 unstable: 3.1.2 although my unstable says: 3.2.3, so the site appears to a bit out of date. I think kde 3.3 has arrived in unstable. I looked at the changelog for kdebase and kdegraphics, and they're dated 13 and 14 August, respectively. AFAIK, this is the RC2 release, not the final. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Debian and KDE33
Jeff Goodwin wrote: Hello, The KDE org refers people to you to get an official ruling on when/whether you give your official binaries of KDE 3.3 to them. Also, I just did a CD install of Debian and found KDE 2.2 on there. Is a later KDE version ok for Debian (Woody)? See www.backport.org and it it's not there, then www.apt-get.org The former is better because they partition the components so if you configure your system to get KDE you won't accidenly get Gnome from the same source. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 10:39:12PM -0700, Jeff Goodwin wrote: Hello, The KDE org refers people to you to get an official ruling on when/whether you give your official binaries of KDE 3.3 to them. Also, I just did a CD install of Debian and found KDE 2.2 on there. Is a later KDE version ok for Debian (Woody)? Thanx Jeff Goodwin Hi Jeff, 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Its software does not change once debian sufficiently tests all of its software thus kde 2.2 was tested enough to be considered 'stable'. Unstable has the most recent version of kde. As the version in unstable gets sufficient testing, it goes into testing. After a while, the testing distro becomes 'stable'. This will happen shortly (cross fingers). So, what ever version of kde in testing, will soon become the version in the next 'stable'. here is the current kde info from the debian site: stable: 2.2.25 testing: 3.1.2 unstable: 3.1.2 although my unstable says: 3.2.3, so the site appears to a bit out of date. BUT there are other choices: 1) use unoffical 'backported' debian software 2) install kde from source (debian or non-debian source) to backport is when someone takes some software that people may need a more recent version for their job (like a sysadmin) and compiles the lastest version with libraries that are compatible with the current 'stable' environment. The stability of the new backport is not known and so it may or may not disrupt your system. in regards to KDE 3.3, i'd expect it wont be in the next stable version of debian. But folks will backport it, so you may want to use that. HTH -Kev -- (__) (oo) /--\/ / ||| * /\---/\ ~~ ~~ Have you mooed today?... signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian and KDE33
Kevin Mark wrote: 'Woody' aka the current stable, is the official supported version of debian -- it is the only one with security updates. Sarge also has official security updates. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tourist pics http://portgeographe.environmentaldisasters.cds.merseine.nu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE33
John Summerfield wrote: Jeff Goodwin wrote: Hello, The KDE org refers people to you to get an official ruling on when/whether you give your official binaries of KDE 3.3 to them. Also, I just did a CD install of Debian and found KDE 2.2 on there. Is a later KDE version ok for Debian (Woody)? See www.backport.org and it it's not there, then www.apt-get.org The former is better because they partition the components so if you configure your system to get KDE you won't accidenly get Gnome from the same source. Should be www.backports.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Debian and KDE33
Hello, The KDE org refers people to you to get an official ruling on when/whether you give your official binaries of KDE 3.3 to them. Also, I just did a CD install of Debian and found KDE 2.2 on there. Isa later KDE version ok for Debian (Woody)? Thanx Jeff Goodwin
