Re: Debian and Pentium 4
www.linux.com/hardware/newsitem.phtml?sid=26&aid=11457 Very interesting article. Shows why working together and free updates are important to quality systems. -D On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 12:37:39PM -0700, Ray Percival wrote: | I can't get to linux.com just now to find the article but basically | it is Microshaft's fault. It seems that had Intel used the same | versioning for cpuid that they have used up untill now it would | have broken NT/2000 in a very bad way. (All the details are in | the linux.com article I can't seem to get to right now) In any case | Intel hacked the P4 to not break winders but they broke everything | else in the meantime. This is one of the reasons why I will only | use AMB for x86 boxen. When I can find the link I'll post it.
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
> One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for > home use and he wants to install Linux on it. He > would like to install Debian, but he says that Debian > doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet. Is this true? I think it will work just fine. The problem occurs when a program (or the kernel) tries to determine what CPU is installed). On RedHat, Mandrake, and others, during initial install, they try to find out what CPU in there and install a "custom" kernel, optimized for that CPU vs just using the plain, compiled for i386 CPUs. As long as Debian's kernel is not "optimized" for a particular CPU, he'll be okay. Regards Hall
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
To quote Philipp Schulte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, # The german magazine "c't" (http://www.heise.de/ct) explitely says that # there is no problem with Debian and the Pentium 4 on the Dell # Dimension 8100. # RedHat and Suse caused some problems. That's probably because Debian uses(at last check) 2.2.18pre kernels. Dave
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
I can't get to linux.com just now to find the article but basically it is Microshaft's fault. It seems that had Intel used the same versioning for cpuid that they have used up untill now it would have broken NT/2000 in a very bad way. (All the details are in the linux.com article I can't seem to get to right now) In any case Intel hacked the P4 to not break winders but they broke everything else in the meantime. This is one of the reasons why I will only use AMB for x86 boxen. When I can find the link I'll post it. -- Original Message -- From: Kay Nettle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 13:22:20 -0600 >One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he >wants to install Linux on it. He would like to install Debian, but >he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet. Is this true? > >Kay > > >-- >To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 01:22:20PM -0600, Kay Nettle wrote: > One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he > wants to install Linux on it. He would like to install Debian, but > he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet. Is this true? The german magazine "c't" (http://www.heise.de/ct) explitely says that there is no problem with Debian and the Pentium 4 on the Dell Dimension 8100. RedHat and Suse caused some problems. Phil
Debian and Pentium 4
One of our profs bought a Dell 8100 Pentium 4 for home use and he wants to install Linux on it. He would like to install Debian, but he says that Debian doesn't support the Pentium 4 yet. Is this true? Kay
Re: Debian and Pentium 4
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: > > >From Linuxgram Issue No 147 is this piece titled "Most Linux Cuts Won't > Install on Pentium 4." Quoting: "In another one of those awkward little > moments that we have come to expect from Intel, the chip giant has confirmed > that only Red Hat and TurboLinux can be installed on Pentium 4 boxes. The > rest of the Linux herd won't run on the hardware." > > http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=108&aid=11373 > > What's the real deal? Will Debian run on the new Pentium 4 or not? Or is just > a case of a few tweaks to some config files? > The german computer-mag c't has tried it out: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/result.xhtml?url=/newsticker/data/jk-11.12.00-003/default.shtml&words=Pentium Debian works with P4, Redhat and SuSE do sometimes. The problem is the IO-apic routine, which is called if you have a kernel with smp-support. joerg -- Did you know that if you play a Windows 2000 cd backwards, you will hear the voice of Satan? That's nothing! If you play it forward, it'll install Windows 2000.
Debian and Pentium 4
>From Linuxgram Issue No 147 is this piece titled "Most Linux Cuts Won't Install on Pentium 4." Quoting: "In another one of those awkward little moments that we have come to expect from Intel, the chip giant has confirmed that only Red Hat and TurboLinux can be installed on Pentium 4 boxes. The rest of the Linux herd won't run on the hardware." http://www.linuxgram.com/newsitem.phtml?sid=108&aid=11373 What's the real deal? Will Debian run on the new Pentium 4 or not? Or is just a case of a few tweaks to some config files?
