Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-18 Thread brian moore
On Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 02:17:53PM -0700, Erik Steffl wrote:
> "Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:
> > 
> > Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> > player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> > from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> > to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> > better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> > here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?
> 
>   I have my eyes set on http://pjbox.com/ with 20GB HD, it was reported
> as working well with linux. It's quite expensive but they also have
> cheaper 6GB version. It looks like it's fairly good technically, it has
> 10min. memory (so the HD can sleep longer = longer battery life)...

I have a pjbox and love it.  (The pjbox is why I moved to 2.4 kernels in
the 'pre' somethings days...)

Mine is the 6G model (and not backlit :()), but one of these days I'll
get around to mailing off for a 20G drive to upgrade it.

It works great... The design is slick, the quality is slick, the only
crappy thing is that the marketing side is sorta chintzy (it comes in an
UGLY 2-color printed box, the manual is silly, the '6G' on the box is
just a sticker...).  But, given the choice between good
marketing/packaging and good design/construction, um, perhaps (bringing
this on topic :)), Windows vs Linux is a good metaphor. :)

The tools to fondle the pjbox are sorta incomplete, but work well (it's
trivial to move mp3's to the pjbox, slightly tricky to delete them --
you download the "table of contents" to a text file, delete the items
from that file, and then upload the TOC you can also fix typos in
names of files this way :)).  There is a GNOMEish thingie to play with
the pjbox, but I tend to just move things to it and leave them there and
haven't been too bothered. :)

The coolest thing about the pjbox is it is TINY.  It is about the size
of a SMALL cassette player, and if I wear a shirt with pockets, it can
fit in my shirt pocket.

It -is- more expensive than others like the Nomad (which Creatve refuses
to support on Linux).  But it's also about half the size of the Nomad
(which is HUGE... why they made it look like a CD player, I dunno).  But
good scotch costs more than the cheap junk. and, um, is a lot
better, too.  In this case, you very much get what you pay for.

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Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Karsten M. Self
on Sun, Apr 15, 2001 at 05:54:32PM +0200, Robert Voigt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
wrote:
> On Sunday 15 April 2001 16:51, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> > Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> > player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> >
> > >from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> >
> > to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> > better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> > here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?
> 
> Iomega seems very Linux friendly and their HipZip will support Ogg Vorbis in 
> the future. This is one you should check out.

I refuse to touch Iomege products based on extremely unsatisfactory past
experiences.

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Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Erik Steffl
"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:
> 
> Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

  I have my eyes set on http://pjbox.com/ with 20GB HD, it was reported
as working well with linux. It's quite expensive but they also have
cheaper 6GB version. It looks like it's fairly good technically, it has
10min. memory (so the HD can sleep longer = longer battery life)...

erik



Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Nate Amsden
"Noah L. Meyerhans" wrote:
> 
> Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

i still use my 48MB rio 300 (32MB + 16MB expansion thing)..works good..
i have all my songs encoded at 32kbps using l3enc(other encoders can't
produce the quality that l3enc does at low bitrates..). although its
getting to be on it's last legs..hard to keep the battery in..i dont
think ill ever buy another portable cd player. before my rio i had
a $500 sony discman, luckily i spent another $100 on the extended 
warranty as it suffered more then $400 in repairs in the 3 years
i used it. the solid state stuff is s much more durable.
for refernece i think the model i had for sony was D-777, real
nice system, but fragile as hell.

nate

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Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Mike
Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

I bought a RioVolt - it's a CD player that can also handle CDR's and CDRW's
of MP3's and WMA's.  The decoders are firmware based, and the firmware is
easily upgradable.  The makers are claiming that they will be supporting
more digital formats in the near future.

I also have one of the solid state MP3 players.  I am *much* happier with
the RioVolt than the solid state player.
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Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Joe 'Zonker' Brockmeier
On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:

> Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
> from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
> to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

You might be better off buying a MP3 player that handles CDRs instead of
buying a Rio or one of the other types. They're a bit cheaper, they
can handle 650 MB of MP3s at a time and regular CDs as well and they're
basically just as portable. 

The only one that has any support that I'm aware of is the Nomad II. 
You can find a project on SourceForge:
http://nomadii.sourceforge.net/

I bought this one, and I'm pretty happy with it:
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=DMP-1

Take care,
Zonker
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Re: Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Robert Voigt
On Sunday 15 April 2001 16:51, Noah L. Meyerhans wrote:
> Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
> player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
>
> >from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
>
> to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
> better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
> here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

Iomega seems very Linux friendly and their HipZip will support Ogg Vorbis in 
the future. This is one you should check out.



Debian compatibility with MP3 devices

2001-04-15 Thread Noah L. Meyerhans
Hey all.  I am considering purchasing some kind of small portable mp3
player, but I don't want to get one that can only download its songs
from a Windows box.  I know that there's kernel support for a USB link
to a Diamond Rio 500 (and later models?).  But it seems like there are
better players out there (i.e. players with more memory).  Does anybody
here own such a device?  Which ones can talk to Linux?

Thanks.
noah

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