[SOLVED] Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 10:24 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 15:19 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > Στις 2020-02-03 14:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:49 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > > Στις 2020-02-03 14:24, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > > > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > > > > Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > > > > > > > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > > > > > > > warnings, > > > > > > > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to > > > > > > > services > > > > > > > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > VPN > > > > > > > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > > > > > > > manager activates the VPN. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jim P. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is > > > > > > now. > > > > > > And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. > > > > > > > > > > The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the > > > > > VPN won't start until after user login. > > > > > > > > The calendar service should be the same. Since it s a user service it > > > > starts after you login. > > > > > > It does, but I don't want it started until after it can reach the > > > calendar server (which is only available on the VPN). > > > > > > > > > Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically > > > > > > and > > > > > > do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. > > > > > > > > To disable it you can try: `systemctl --user disable > > > > evolution-calendar-factory.service` > > > > Alternatively you can remove the WantedBy block from the unit file. > > > > > > Thanks again, unfortunately that doesn't seem to survive a reboot. :-( > > > > > > I tried disabling all evolution related services, but they still > > > startup > > > after a normal reboot > > > > If no one else is using evolution on that PC you can do `rm > > /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-*` > > > > When you reinstall the package you ll have the service files back > > anyway. > > Thanks, I'd rather not do it that way. > > I guess I'll open a bug with Gnome to see if they can suppress the blue > connectivity warnings at startup as there is no need to report an error > that resolves itself once the user has started the application. While messing around with some Evolution settings I resolved this problem by setting: Evolution -> Preferences -> Network Preferences -> Method to detect online state = Network Manager. Bam! Problem solved. -Jim P.
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 15:19 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > Στις 2020-02-03 14:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:49 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > Στις 2020-02-03 14:24, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > > > Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > > > > > > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > > > > > > > > > > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > > > > > > warnings, > > > > > > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to > > > > > > services > > > > > > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the > > > > > > VPN > > > > > > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > > > > > > manager activates the VPN. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Jim P. > > > > > > > > > > You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. > > > > > And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. > > > > > > > > The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the > > > > VPN won't start until after user login. > > > > > > The calendar service should be the same. Since it s a user service it > > > starts after you login. > > > > It does, but I don't want it started until after it can reach the > > calendar server (which is only available on the VPN). > > > > > > > Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically > > > > > and > > > > > do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. > > > > > > To disable it you can try: `systemctl --user disable > > > evolution-calendar-factory.service` > > > Alternatively you can remove the WantedBy block from the unit file. > > > > Thanks again, unfortunately that doesn't seem to survive a reboot. :-( > > > > I tried disabling all evolution related services, but they still > > startup > > after a normal reboot > > If no one else is using evolution on that PC you can do `rm > /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-*` > > When you reinstall the package you ll have the service files back > anyway. Thanks, I'd rather not do it that way. I guess I'll open a bug with Gnome to see if they can suppress the blue connectivity warnings at startup as there is no need to report an error that resolves itself once the user has started the application. -Jim P.
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
Στις 2020-02-03 14:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:49 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: Στις 2020-02-03 14:24, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > Hello! > > > > > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > > > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > > > > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > > > warnings, > > > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services > > > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the > > > VPN > > > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > > > manager activates the VPN. > > > > > > -Jim P. > > > > You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. > > And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. > > The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the > VPN won't start until after user login. The calendar service should be the same. Since it s a user service it starts after you login. It does, but I don't want it started until after it can reach the calendar server (which is only available on the VPN). > > Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically > > and > > do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. To disable it you can try: `systemctl --user disable evolution-calendar-factory.service` Alternatively you can remove the WantedBy block from the unit file. Thanks again, unfortunately that doesn't seem to survive a reboot. :-( I tried disabling all evolution related services, but they still startup after a normal reboot If no one else is using evolution on that PC you can do `rm /usr/lib/systemd/user/evolution-*` When you reinstall the package you ll have the service files back anyway. -Jim P. --- Regards, Nektarios Katakis
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:49 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > Στις 2020-02-03 14:24, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > > > Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > > > Hello! > > > > > > > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > > > > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > > > > > > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > > > > warnings, > > > > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services > > > > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the > > > > VPN > > > > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > > > > manager activates the VPN. > > > > > > > > -Jim P. > > > > > > You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. > > > And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. > > > > The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the > > VPN won't start until after user login. > > The calendar service should be the same. Since it s a user service it > starts after you login. It does, but I don't want it started until after it can reach the calendar server (which is only available on the VPN). > > > Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically > > > and > > > do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. > > To disable it you can try: `systemctl --user disable > evolution-calendar-factory.service` > Alternatively you can remove the WantedBy block from the unit file. Thanks again, unfortunately that doesn't seem to survive a reboot. :-( I tried disabling all evolution related services, but they still startup after a normal reboot -Jim P.
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
Στις 2020-02-03 14:24, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > Hello! > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > warnings, > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the > VPN > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > manager activates the VPN. > > -Jim P. You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the VPN won't start until after user login. The calendar service should be the same. Since it s a user service it starts after you login. Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically and do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. To disable it you can try: `systemctl --user disable evolution-calendar-factory.service` Alternatively you can remove the WantedBy block from the unit file. Thanks, any thoughts on how to do that? -Jim P. --- Regards, Nektarios Katakis
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
On Mon, 2020-02-03 at 14:07 +, Nektarios Katakis wrote: > Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: > > Hello! > > > > Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- > > (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? > > > > Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue > > warnings, > > that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services > > only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the > > VPN > > is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network > > manager activates the VPN. > > > > -Jim P. > > You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. > And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. The NetworkManager-OVPN depends on user configuration, therefore the VPN won't start until after user login. > Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically and > do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. Thanks, any thoughts on how to do that? -Jim P.
Re: Delay evolution-*-factory startup
Στις 2020-02-03 12:59, Jim Popovitch έγραψε: Hello! Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue warnings, that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the VPN is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network manager activates the VPN. -Jim P. You can run the VPN as a systemd user service as the Evolution is now. And put VPN service to run before the evolution one. Alternatively you can disable evolution from starting automatically and do it once you have connected manually in your VPN. --- Regards, Nektarios Katakis
Delay evolution-*-factory startup
Hello! Is there a way in Buster+Cinnamon to disable evolution- (calendar|addressbook)-factory until after a VPN has connected? Everytime I login and start Evolution I have a handful of blue warnings, that I must clear, because Evolution was unable to connect to services only available over a VPN. By the time I clear the blue warnings the VPN is active, the warning just accrue after login and before network manager activates the VPN. -Jim P.
