Re: Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-11 Thread Jack Schneider
On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 00:29:44 +
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:

 On Wed 09 Feb 2011 at 18:13:54 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote:
 
  Thanks, Brian, I'll try installing Lenny and then upgrading.  If I
  still have trouble with Squeeze, then I'll have to stick with Lenny
  until I buy a somewhat newer computer that doesn't have problems
  with the Debian Squeeze CD.
 
 As it happens I used PLOP and a usb stick to install Squeeze on one
 machine. The netinst.iso was put on to the stick using
 
cat netinst.iso  /dev/sdX
 
 If the Squeeze installer and your machine don't get on it may not help
 you - but you never know.
 
 
If you can try burning the ISO on a CD-R media some OLD optical drives
can't handle the newer media, also burn at lowest speeds..

FWIW
Jack


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Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-09 Thread Jason Hsu
I'm trying to turn an old computer (10-year-old IBM NetVista desktop with a 1.0 
GHz processor and 256 MB of RAM) into a server.  Thus, I've made sure to only 
use the i386 versions of Debian.

I'm having difficulty installing Debian Squeeze on it.  I did once successfully 
install Debian Lenny on this computer.  The logical thing to do is to install 
Debian Lenny instead.  However, Debian Squeeze is now the stable branch, and 
that makes Lenny (the previous stable branch) obsolete.  (Should I use Lenny 
anyway?  I know that Ubuntu drops support for old versions.  Does Debian do 
that as well?)

I tried the first Debian Squeeze CD, but selecting install or the graphical 
install in the installer boot menu to freeze and then flicker.  The only way 
out was to reboot.

Because I used a new CD-R and used the verification feature in iso2cd (the 
Puppy Linux application I use to burn ISO files to CD), I knew that the CD 
wasn't the problem.  I also tried the Debian Squeeze CD on my main computer (a 
newer one) in VirtualBox and had no problems.  So the CD isn't the problem.

It's possible that the CD drive in my old IBM NetVista computer is in marginal 
condition, but that doesn't explain why it has no problem with my Puppy Linux 
or antiX Linux CDs.

So I tried booting the Debian Squeeze netinstall CD from USB.  (I had to burn 
the PLOP plpbt.iso file to CD and boot up from that initially to get this old 
computer to boot from USB.)  Selecting install or graphical install from the 
installer boot menu caused the screen to freeze and then flicker, just like 
before.

I tried going to the help page in the installer boot menu to start up Debian.  
When I tried this from the USB, Debian couldn't detect my network hardware.  
When I tried this from the CD, Debian couldn't read from my CD.

Have any of you experienced anything like this?  Why does Debian Squeeze have 
so much difficulty with my old computer?  Should I use Debian Lenny even though 
it's out-of-date even by Debian stable standards?

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Re: Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Feb 2011 at 16:40:41 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote:

 I'm trying to turn an old computer (10-year-old IBM NetVista desktop with a
 1.0 GHz processor and 256 MB of RAM) into a server.  Thus, I've made sure to
 only use the i386 versions of Debian.
 
 I'm having difficulty installing Debian Squeeze on it.  I did once
 successfully install Debian Lenny on this computer.  The logical thing to do
 is to install Debian Lenny instead.  However, Debian Squeeze is now the
 stable branch, and that makes Lenny (the previous stable branch) obsolete.
 (Should I use Lenny anyway?  I know that Ubuntu drops support for old
 versions.  Does Debian do that as well?)

Not being able to install Squeeze is puzzling even though you have taken
a number of sensible approaches to try to make it happen. Failing a
resolution of this problem I'd install Lenny and upgrade. This might be
useful:

http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/


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Re: Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-09 Thread Jason Hsu
Thanks, Brian, I'll try installing Lenny and then upgrading.  If I still have 
trouble with Squeeze, then I'll have to stick with Lenny until I buy a somewhat 
newer computer that doesn't have problems with the Debian Squeeze CD.

On Wed, 9 Feb 2011 23:36:17 +
Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
 
 Not being able to install Squeeze is puzzling even though you have taken
 a number of sensible approaches to try to make it happen. Failing a
 resolution of this problem I'd install Lenny and upgrade. This might be
 useful:
 
 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/
 

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Re: Difficulty installing Debian 6.0.0 on an old computer

2011-02-09 Thread Brian
On Wed 09 Feb 2011 at 18:13:54 -0600, Jason Hsu wrote:

 Thanks, Brian, I'll try installing Lenny and then upgrading.  If I still have
 trouble with Squeeze, then I'll have to stick with Lenny until I buy a
 somewhat newer computer that doesn't have problems with the Debian Squeeze
 CD.

As it happens I used PLOP and a usb stick to install Squeeze on one
machine. The netinst.iso was put on to the stick using

   cat netinst.iso  /dev/sdX

If the Squeeze installer and your machine don't get on it may not help
you - but you never know.


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