Re: Dual Booting linux thin client or windows

2007-10-13 Thread Bob

Sid Arth wrote:

Is it possible to dual boot into either normal windows (booting from
the harddrive) or linux which is stored on the network? Ive looked into
something called pxe a little, but that looks more like a one way thing.
Linux only and it seems you need some sorta special bios for it.

I was wondering if there is something where you could pick which OS you
want to load, and if you pick the linux one, it will  boot off a server
on my network.
  


Could you not have /boot on a small local partition or USB flashdrive 
with a full GRUB menu allowing selection of OS, then all the other linux 
partitions could be mounted over NFS?


I want to do exactly the same thing with my HTPCs so I'm watching this 
tread with interest, keep us informed on how it goes.


Good Luck.


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Re: Dual Booting linux thin client or windows

2007-10-09 Thread Kent West

Sid Arth wrote:

Is it possible to dual boot into either normal windows (booting from
the harddrive) or linux which is stored on the network? Ive looked into
something called pxe a little, but that looks more like a one way thing.
Linux only and it seems you need some sorta special bios for it.

I was wondering if there is something where you could pick which OS you
want to load, and if you pick the linux one, it will  boot off a server
on my network.


  
Yes, it is possible, but I'm not familiar enough with how to explain it. 
(I kept waiting for someone else to respond to your post)


Years ago I booted Sparc machines this way for the installation process. 
Some years after that I tinkered with Knoppix which has (or at least 
had) the capability built-in and ready-to-go. Around the same time I 
tried to get a school lab to work this way, but was never successful, I 
think because the PXE server was on a different virtual LAN and the 
documentation at the time was insufficient for me to figure things out 
before I had to give up.


But I do know it CAN work. Google is probably your friend in this case. 
I'd search for debian pixie boot or debian thin client or something 
similar.


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Re: Dual Booting linux thin client or windows

2007-10-09 Thread Kent West

Sid Arth wrote:

Is it possible to dual boot into either normal windows (booting from
the harddrive) or linux which is stored on the network? Ive looked into
something called pxe a little, but that looks more like a one way thing.
Linux only and it seems you need some sorta special bios for it.
  
Most modern BIOSes can boot from a network PXE server. What you'd do is 
configure your BIOS to boot first from the PXE server, and then if that 
process fails or is canceled with a user's keypress, it was fail-over to 
boot from the hard drive (or CDROM, or USB device, etc etc etc) and 
thereby start up your other OS.




I was wondering if there is something where you could pick which OS you
want to load, and if you pick the linux one, it will  boot off a server
on my network.
  


Once the BIOS finds the PXE server and starts booting from it, I believe 
you can have the PXE serve out whatever you want, such as the startup of 
a Debian boot, or the normally earlier stage of GRUB menu, which would 
give your users the ability to pick-and-choose from a menu which OS they 
want to load.


Again, I haven't done this, so don't know the specifics of doing it, but 
I am confident it can be done.


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Re: Dual Booting linux thin client or windows

2007-10-09 Thread Michael Shuler
On 10/09/2007 08:36 AM, Kent West wrote:
 Sid Arth wrote:
 Is it possible to dual boot into either normal windows (booting from
 the harddrive) or linux which is stored on the network?
   
 I was wondering if there is something where you could pick which OS you
 want to load, and if you pick the linux one, it will  boot off a server
 on my network.
 
 Once the BIOS finds the PXE server and starts booting from it, I believe
 you can have the PXE serve out whatever you want, such as the startup of
 a Debian boot, or the normally earlier stage of GRUB menu, which would
 give your users the ability to pick-and-choose from a menu which OS they
 want to load.

A while back for the VMWare appliance competition, I created a pxelinux
installer / rescue VM using the same technology and some of the tricks
we use in our production data center installers (it does not have a
debian installer, I know..).

You can set up a short timeout of pxelinux to boot from hard disk by
default, if there is no option chosen from the menu.  In the case of
this VM, it waits forever, but if you just hit ENTER, it boots from
disk.  Feel free to grab it and rip apart the pxelinux or any other
configurations - thought this might inspire a few PXE ideas.

http://pbandjelly.net/vmware_challenge/

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Dual Booting linux thin client or windows

2007-10-08 Thread Sid Arth
Is it possible to dual boot into either normal windows (booting from
the harddrive) or linux which is stored on the network? Ive looked into
something called pxe a little, but that looks more like a one way thing.
Linux only and it seems you need some sorta special bios for it.

I was wondering if there is something where you could pick which OS you
want to load, and if you pick the linux one, it will  boot off a server
on my network.


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