Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-20 21:56, Dean Sutherland wrote:

On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:36 -0500, jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote:


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From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:55 -0500

In <4a8d8e01.1080...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
[snip]


Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and
IceOwl are first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express
are second worlders

"first world translators"???
They live in the first world but try to speak with second worlders. 
I'll admit my analogy is not great[1] and perhaps I was being a
little... opaque... when I wrote that. 
--

Well thanks for at least confirming that I'm marginally sane & not the
only one with this issue. I think I'll send a query to the evolution
developers. They claim it's a drop in replacement for exchange & it's
not quite. BTW Boyd attachment does work as long as the image was
inline to start with. Otherwise no go.
Thanks All!



Hi John,

Have you tried:

Select Message -> Forward As -> Inline [1] 


or

edit---> preferences--> composer preferences---> forward style and
change it for the drop down and choose inline [2] ?


In IW/Tbird, Message->"Forward As"->Attachment succeeds at 
forwarding graphics-laden html mail to a gmail account.


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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Dean Sutherland
On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:01:36 -0500, jfoster81...@gmail.com wrote:

> -Original Message-
> From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:55 -0500
> 
> In <4a8d8e01.1080...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> >[snip]
> >
> >> Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and
> >> IceOwl are first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express
> >> are second worlders
> >
> >"first world translators"???
> 
> They live in the first world but try to speak with second worlders. 
> I'll admit my analogy is not great[1] and perhaps I was being a
> little... opaque... when I wrote that. 
> --
> Well thanks for at least confirming that I'm marginally sane & not the
> only one with this issue. I think I'll send a query to the evolution
> developers. They claim it's a drop in replacement for exchange & it's
> not quite. BTW Boyd attachment does work as long as the image was
> inline to start with. Otherwise no go.
> Thanks All!


Hi John,

Have you tried:

Select Message -> Forward As -> Inline [1] 

or

edit---> preferences--> composer preferences---> forward style and
change it for the drop down and choose inline [2] ?


[1]
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/61590
[2]
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+question/73036

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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread John W Foster
-Original Message-
From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. 
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:24:55 -0500

In <4a8d8e01.1080...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
>On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>[snip]
>
>> Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and IceOwl
>> are first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express are second
>> worlders
>
>"first world translators"???

They live in the first world but try to speak with second worlders. 
I'll admit my analogy is not great[1] and perhaps I was being a
little... opaque... when I wrote that. 
--
Well thanks for at least confirming that I'm marginally sane & not the
only one with this issue. I think I'll send a query to the evolution
developers. They claim it's a drop in replacement for exchange & it's not
quite. BTW Boyd attachment does work as long as the image was inline to 
start with. Otherwise no go.
Thanks All!
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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a8d8e01.1080...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote:
>On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>[snip]
>
>> Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and IceOwl
>> are first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express are second
>> worlders
>
>"first world translators"???

They live in the first world but try to speak with second worlders.  I'll 
admit my analogy is not great[1] and perhaps I was being a little... 
opaque... when I wrote that.
-- 
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[1] No, I am not BadAnalogyGuy on Slashdot.


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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-20 12:25, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
[snip]


Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and IceOwl are 
first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express are second worlders 


"first world translators"???

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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Qui, 20 Ago 2009, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." wrote:

With email there are two worlds.  One is the world defined by existing email
transport standards and the various standards layered on top of them (from
MIME up).  The other is the world defined by what Microsoft products do.
Lossless communication between the two is virtually impossible, mainly
because the second world keeps changing what language they want to speak.


Do not forget the third, Gmail. It tries to do the same that Microsoft  
produts do, but in a different way. It, however, allows one to work in  
a first world way, but this is not the default, and requires the user  
to know its way around Gmail's "features".



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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Ron Johnson

On 2009-08-20 10:46, JW Foster wrote:

I want to be able to "forward" some e-mails from evolution in Debian
Lenny: WITH the images in them as inline: Is there a way to do this? I
get some pretty funny stuff from my friends & want to send it to other
friends, but every way I try the images get scragged out of the nessage.
Yes most of them use Windows & this is not an issue with "outlook
express" why evolution. I,ve checked my settings & tried every possible
combination. Any ideas?


If it makes you feel any better, Tbird/IW has similar issues with 
forwarding HTML mail.


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Re: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <1250783185.6443.5.ca...@brutus.johnwfoster.info>, JW Foster wrote:
>I want to be able to "forward" some e-mails from evolution in Debian
>Lenny: WITH the images in them as inline: Is there a way to do this? I
>get some pretty funny stuff from my friends & want to send it to other
>friends, but every way I try the images get scragged out of the nessage.
>Yes most of them use Windows & this is not an issue with "outlook
>express" why evolution. I,ve checked my settings & tried every possible
>combination. Any ideas?

This is not a dumb question.

With email there are two worlds.  One is the world defined by existing email 
transport standards and the various standards layered on top of them (from 
MIME up).  The other is the world defined by what Microsoft products do.  
Lossless communication between the two is virtually impossible, mainly 
because the second world keeps changing what language they want to speak.

Evolution, KMail, and Mutt are first worlders.  Thunderbird and IceOwl are 
first world translators.  Outlook and Outlook Express are second worlders 
and they couldn't care less about talking to first worlders.

You might be able to find a 'Forward as Attachment' option in Evolution that 
should preserve the email you were sent rather than quoting it into another 
email.  Failing that, you might be able to do what you want in IceOwl.
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RE: Evolution mail; Dumb question but I need answer

2009-08-20 Thread JW Foster
I want to be able to "forward" some e-mails from evolution in Debian
Lenny: WITH the images in them as inline: Is there a way to do this? I
get some pretty funny stuff from my friends & want to send it to other
friends, but every way I try the images get scragged out of the nessage.
Yes most of them use Windows & this is not an issue with "outlook
express" why evolution. I,ve checked my settings & tried every possible
combination. Any ideas?
John


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