Re: Extended descriptions of non-free/non-US packages.

2000-10-02 Thread Matthew Tuck
J.H.M. Dassen (Ray) wrote:

 Personally, I think this would clutter the package descriptions to little
 benefit. A much more appropriate place IMO is /usr/share/package/copyright.

The whole benefit of this proposal is so that you can know this
information BEFORE you decide to install the package, since it
determines whether I install the package.

- if it is patent encumbered, I want to know if it applies to me before
downloading
- if it is non-free, I want to know whether I consider the license
acceptable before downloading
- etc. etc.

However, even if it is not done, it would still be useful to have this
specific information in /usr/share/doc or wherever.  In particular, this
information being readily available would likely prevent people asking
specifically why X was in non-free, etc.

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Extended descriptions of non-free/non-US packages.

2000-10-01 Thread Matthew Tuck
This message may or may not be pertinent in future given the uncertain
status of both non-free and non-US, but here goes anyway ...

When I see a package that's in non-free or non-US I often wonder exactly
why it's there.  It would be really nice if every package explained why
it was where it was.  And for this to be required by policy if such a
thing was appropriate.

In detail, I want this at the bottom of every package description in
non-free/non-US:

- if it's in non-US, explain what parts of the software use crypto,
since it's not always obvious.
- if it's in non-free for patent reasons, give the patent numbers and
the locations in which the patents are held.  If it is DFSG compliant,
explain this.  Explain which parts of the software embody the patents.
- if it's in non-free for DFSG non-compliance, explain which points of
the DFSG are violated and specifically why not.

Is this the best list?  Should I take this to policy/devel?

If there is agreement that this is a good idea where should I take it
from here?

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Re: Extended descriptions of non-free/non-US packages.

2000-10-01 Thread J.H.M. Dassen \(Ray\)
On Mon, Oct 02, 2000 at 01:12:17 +0930, Matthew Tuck wrote:
 In detail, I want this at the bottom of every package description in
 non-free/non-US:
 
 - if it's in non-US, explain what parts of the software use crypto,
 since it's not always obvious.
 - if it's in non-free for patent reasons, give the patent numbers and
 the locations in which the patents are held.  If it is DFSG compliant,
 explain this.  Explain which parts of the software embody the patents.

Personally, I think this would clutter the package descriptions to little
benefit. A much more appropriate place IMO is /usr/share/package/copyright.

Ray
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