Re: Fw: gdm and reboot
On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 04:30:10 +0100, Leonard Chatagnier wrote: - Original Message - From: Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: gdm and reboot On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:56PM -0500, Michael Spang wrote: I have often wondered why exactly it defaults to requiring a password. Requiring a user who has physical access to a computer root privileges to shut it down seems fundamentally flawed to me--they could easily shut it down by removing power. However this is potentially damaging, so it seems logical to allow them to initiate a proper shutdown. Is removing this limitation a security issue for remote users? Surely disabling 'secure actions' won't allow a remote user to shutdown via gdm.. right? Anyhow, just thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has a good explanation. It always seemed to be a completely unncessesary and potentially frustrating default. I find it especially strange since by default any user can shut down once logged into gnome via gdm, but they become stranded once back on the welcome screen. I agree with you. It's a stupid default. I hope they change it. Jason -- Me too, a new debian user still trying to get his screwed up Debian system fixed up so it works as a desktop pc with simple DUN via modem and not NIC I am also a newbie at linux and Debian and had a number of problems getting the dialup modem to works properly. Do you have an external modem? Are you using kernel 2.4.18-bf2.4? Forgive me if you have already covered all this before. I just happened to read this thread and it reminded me of problem that I had. Jerry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: gdm and reboot
Leonard Chatagnier wrote: On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:56PM -0500, Michael Spang wrote: I have often wondered why exactly it defaults to requiring a password. Requiring a user who has physical access to a computer root privileges to shut it down seems fundamentally flawed to me--they could easily shut it down by removing power. Sorry, I do not agree with you here! You may have a cenario where a user has physical acess to keyboard/mouse/screen but not to the box... I actually know this cenario, have seen it several times in cybercafe's/kyosk implementations. You cannot reach power cable or the power button on the box itself. I find it especially strange since by default any user can shut down once logged into gnome via gdm, but they become stranded once back on the welcome screen. H... kde does not allow this when comming from a kdm session... At least not the one I have in a Mandrake setup... Yes, I must agree with you that by this point of view it's very strange... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: gdm and reboot
- Original Message - From: Jason Rennie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2004 3:33 PM Subject: Re: gdm and reboot On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 10:55:56PM -0500, Michael Spang wrote: I have often wondered why exactly it defaults to requiring a password. Requiring a user who has physical access to a computer root privileges to shut it down seems fundamentally flawed to me--they could easily shut it down by removing power. However this is potentially damaging, so it seems logical to allow them to initiate a proper shutdown. Is removing this limitation a security issue for remote users? Surely disabling 'secure actions' won't allow a remote user to shutdown via gdm.. right? Anyhow, just thought I'd throw this out there to see if anyone has a good explanation. It always seemed to be a completely unncessesary and potentially frustrating default. I find it especially strange since by default any user can shut down once logged into gnome via gdm, but they become stranded once back on the welcome screen. I agree with you. It's a stupid default. I hope they change it. Jason -- Me too, a new debian user still trying to get his screwed up Debian system fixed up so it works as a desktop pc with simple DUN via modem and not NIC Len To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
